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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:19:08 PM EDT
[#1]
I enjoy all of them. Some more than others, but I've binged the whole set multiple times.
I like the 3rd one a lot more than most people. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:19:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aliens is one of those franchises where you have to invoke the Rocky Rule (nothing after Rocky IV actually happened). Ripley, Hicks, and Newt are still floating in space waiting to be rescued after Aliens. Everything else is just a bad dream from cryo sleep. Same with Predator and Star Wars. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:20:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Oopsie
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:22:51 PM EDT
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OP, did you watch the first movie in the theater when it first came out. Did you see the second one tripping balls in a elaborate college theater with friends cheering for the marines. Yeah, I didn't think so. The first two Alien movies are anything but lame. Maybe you missed out on such an awesome movie going experience and that is why you feel that way.
In 1979 a friend told me about Sigourney Weaver in undies at the end of this Alien movie. Back then that was a bigger deal. Now, being R rated it was a challenge to see this movie but I was not dissapointed. I was taken to the second one and the entire theater was rooting for the marines. Something I'm not sure a theater would let you do today without pissing off a "Karen". Came back to add that back then the only way to see movies like that was in the theater. People used to say how many times they saw a movie as a way to give it stars today. Star Wars (original movie) was king in that regard. Bill Paxton RIP, and a Preditor killed you and a Terminator killed you. Bill Paxton is a movie hero. BTY Sigourney Weaver is just as hot in 1979 as she is today. You missed out OP.... |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:24:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I liked them. I always found it funny that those movies get so much live from GD though. If they were made today there would be much screeching about girl power wokeness. I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. I always felt like a woman was chosen for the first one because she seemed more vulnerable and created more tension. I don't think having Tom Skerritt as the only survivor would have created the same vibe. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:26:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same with Predator and Star Wars. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Aliens is one of those franchises where you have to invoke the Rocky Rule (nothing after Rocky IV actually happened). Ripley, Hicks, and Newt are still floating in space waiting to be rescued after Aliens. Everything else is just a bad dream from cryo sleep. Terminator. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:27:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The OP is lame. We should nuke this thread from orbit. Agreed. Its the only way to be sure. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:27:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Da Fuck? 1 and 2 are masterpieces. The rest are trash. This Though the AVP ones were good for background noise. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The first wasn't even that good. Good action movie. Sci Fi? No.  Now you are just embarrassing yourself.The first movie is NOT an action movie. It is a classic gothic horror movie, told in a sci-fi setting. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:30:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always felt like a woman was chosen for the first one because she seemed more vulnerable and created more tension. I don't think having Tom Skerritt as the only survivor would have created the same vibe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I liked them. I always found it funny that those movies get so much live from GD though. If they were made today there would be much screeching about girl power wokeness. I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. I always felt like a woman was chosen for the first one because she seemed more vulnerable and created more tension. I don't think having Tom Skerritt as the only survivor would have created the same vibe. I agree with that. I've often thought that the first two movies would have been just as good if the main character had been some scrawny male nerd - but I think the horror aspect of it and the tension is definitely higher with a female lead. I also like the casting choice that Sigourney Weaver is NOT particular attractive (or "sexy") in either of the movies. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:31:59 PM EDT
[#11]
In it's day, Alien was a great movie.
Innovative special effects. Tough female protagonist. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:37:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:39:37 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:39:53 PM EDT
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First Alien was amazing. Chestburster rocked my 14yo world and Sigourney in her skivvies did the same. Feel sorry for whoever got my theater seat after that movie because I probably left 2-3 types of DNA samples. Aliens was awesome as well. Super intense with some humor thrown in. Loved them both
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that, and agree that it was a great character . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. I think I get what you are saying now!! 
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:42:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In it's day, Alien was a great movie. Innovative special effects. Tough female protagonist. The sound and ambience of the movie is perfect. The way you barely ever see the full grown alien until the very end was masterful. The cast pulled off their roles very well. The writing was excellent. I'd say the movie has aged just fine. I think the problem with youth today is that they themselves have not aged well. My step-daughter is in a stupid phase where she will only watch horror/scary movies and anything made before the iPhone was introduced, is stupid to her. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:43:47 PM EDT
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Well, you’re not utterly and completely wrong. Just wrong.
What has become the majority of the franchise does suck. You’re not wrong there. Alien is great. You’re not wrong there. While Alien was a thriller, maybe even “horror” depending on your definitions, Aliens was an action movie. While a different genre of movie, taking place in the same universe, it was still a great movie. If you were expecting suspense and jump scares, yeah it wasn’t going to live up to that. But it was a great movie. So you’re wrong there. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:48:29 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:03:52 PM EDT
[#19]
I liked them, first two are classics. Alien 3 was kind of swing and a miss. Resurrection is way bad, but I will still watch it at times.
Prometheus is a guilty pleasure. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:14:31 PM EDT
[#20]
There are only two Alien movies. (AvP is an exception because it was a combo)
Alien and Aliens. Everything else doesn’t exist. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:21:07 PM EDT
[#21]
i liked prometheus
 haven't seen alien 3 or 4 in so long i have almost no memory of them |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:21:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally...Posted...By...happycynic: Aliens...is...one...of...those...franchises...where...you...have...to...invoke...the...Rocky...Rule...(nothing...after...Rocky...IV...actually...happened).......Ripley,...Hicks,...and...Newt...are...still...floating...in...space...waiting...to...be...rescued...after...Aliens.......Everything...else...is...just...a...bad...dream...from...cryo...sleep. Anything...after...Aliens...I...pretend...doesn't...exist.Predator...is...mostly...the...same,...except...that.........010...Predators...movie,...I...thought...that...was...very...well...done....But...that's...like...a..."even...broken...clock...is...right...twice...a...day"...kind...of...think,...as...they...are...cranking...these...turds...out...one...or...two...is...bound...to...be...alright...I...guess. ETA:...WTF...is...up...with...all...the..."...."???...lmao |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:22:53 PM EDT
[#23]
>I wanted Contact or Arrival
>Aliens suck delete your account david lindeloff shouldn't be allowed to work on anything else. he's ruined enough |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:23:15 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted: The first was tolerable, after that meh. I started watching Prometheus the other night for the first time, not knowing it was in the series. It looked promising, then it started getting stupid feeling. Sure as shit, fucking Alien. I wanted Contact or Arrival, no, I get octopus snake Japanese porn. Aliens suck.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:26:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:28:49 PM EDT
[#26]
Alien and the sequel Aliens are superb for the genre. The subsequent movies that followers are horrible and just to make cash. The spin-off prequels Prometheus and Covenant were entertaining on their own but are horrible as additions to the story line in my opinion. They just don’t add much value to the story.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:29:01 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. Agreed. She was a capable character but not one of these modern shove it in your face that she's a woman types. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:33:18 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Alien and Aliens are awesome! Prometheus and Covenant give me that weird unsettling vibe while watching it. You know? Almost like some kind of spiritual uneasy feeling that something's not right and I shouldn't be watching it. Maybe it's just me. I've felt the same way. It's very odd, and difficult to articulate what it is that's actually troubling about them. I'm glad it's not just me. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:35:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've felt the same way. It's very odd, and difficult to articulate what it is that's actually troubling about them. I'm glad it's not just me. You could probably sense how close to perfection Prometheus would have been without David's additions. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:39:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are only two Alien movies. (AvP is an exception because it was a combo) Alien and Aliens. Everything else doesn’t exist. AvP had Sanaa Lathan in it. Also was Blades mom. Probably one of the most attractive black actresses.  The second AvP film was worse. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:40:08 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I liked them. I always found it funny that those movies get so much love from GD though. If they were made today there would be much screeching about girl power wokeness. That's the thing. We have never complained about strong female leads. Tomb Raider, Eon Flux, Kill Bill, Underworld, Misery, Charlie's Angel, Erin Brockovich, Thelma and Louise, etc. There are tons. The problem is when Hollywood interjects all the other bullshit into everything, even when its not pertinent to the story. Ditto for remaking classics just to throw a bunch of bitches in there. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:40:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I liked them. I always found it funny that those movies get so much live from GD though. If they were made today there would be much screeching about girl power wokeness. I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. Agreed. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:41:36 PM EDT
[#33]
In my opinion the frsnchise ended at Aliens
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:43:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aliens and Predator should have stopped after their late 1980s entries. Predator is My all time favorite action movie. Though it's almost a tie with Aliens..It is sad seeing all the terrible Alien vs Predator movies and such being made. He's VERY right you know... |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:46:06 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the thing. We have never complained about strong female leads. Tomb Raider, Eon Flux, Kill Bill, Underworld, Misery, Charlie's Angel, Erin Brockovich, Thelma and Louise, etc. There are tons. The problem is when Hollywood interjects all the other bullshit into everything, even when its not pertinent to the story. Ditto for remaking classics just to throw a bunch of bitches in there. Gaslighting more or less. Same thing with Black Panther. Oh, that was the first comic movie staring a black character? There was never a Spawn (the most popular comic hero of the 90's?) or Blade movie? |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:47:20 PM EDT
[#36]
1 and 2 are awesome!
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:49:09 PM EDT
[#37]
I'd rather let an angry Amber Heard make my bed than respect OP's opinion on movies
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:53:27 PM EDT
[#38]
OP is lame.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:54:35 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anything...after...Aliens...I...pretend...doesn't...exist.Predator...is...mostly...the...same,...except...that.........010...Predators...movie,...I...thought...that...was...very...well...done....But...that's...like...a..."even...broken...clock...is...right...twice...a...day"...kind...of...think,...as...they...are...cranking...these...turds...out...one...or...two...is...bound...to...be...alright...I...guess. ETA:...WTF...is...up...with...all...the..."...."???...lmao You've just outed yourself, Mr. Shatner. I've long been a fan of your work.  As for the OP, I don't even know what to say.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:01:17 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anything...after...Aliens...I...pretend...doesn't...exist.Predator...is...mostly...the...same,...except...that.........010...Predators...movie,...I...thought...that...was...very...well...done....But...that's...like...a..."even...broken...clock...is...right...twice...a...day"...kind...of...think,...as...they...are...cranking...these...turds...out...one...or...two...is...bound...to...be...alright...I...guess. ETA:...WTF...is...up...with...all...the..."...."???...lmao Quote HistoryQuoted: Originally...Posted...By...happycynic: Aliens...is...one...of...those...franchises...where...you...have...to...invoke...the...Rocky...Rule...(nothing...after...Rocky...IV...actually...happened).......Ripley,...Hicks,...and...Newt...are...still...floating...in...space...waiting...to...be...rescued...after...Aliens.......Everything...else...is...just...a...bad...dream...from...cryo...sleep. Anything...after...Aliens...I...pretend...doesn't...exist.Predator...is...mostly...the...same,...except...that.........010...Predators...movie,...I...thought...that...was...very...well...done....But...that's...like...a..."even...broken...clock...is...right...twice...a...day"...kind...of...think,...as...they...are...cranking...these...turds...out...one...or...two...is...bound...to...be...alright...I...guess. ETA:...WTF...is...up...with...all...the..."...."???...lmao  |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 4:12:56 PM EDT
[#41]
The originally planned William Gibson screenplay set on Earth for 3 would have been awesome.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:10:39 PM EDT
[#42]
I need to find a good image of this, print it out, and put it on the underside of a hatch lid on my boat.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:21:43 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The OP is lame. We should nuke this thread from orbit. Agreed. It's the only way to be sure. I disagree with the OP 100%, at least when talking about the first two movies. ("Alien 3" was flawed, but also underrated.) |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:32:21 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aliens is one of those franchises where you have to invoke the Rocky Rule (nothing after Rocky IV actually happened). Ripley, Hicks, and Newt are still floating in space waiting to be rescued after Aliens. Everything else is just a bad dream from cryo sleep. Thought that was Highlander, but either works i guess. 
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:34:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Alien is a great movie. Aliens was OK but I haven’t seen it forever. Maybe it is better than I remember. The rest are crap.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:36:43 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The first wasn't even that good. Good action movie. Sci Fi? No. The series requires no thought or critical thinking skills. It's border shock gore. The first is a horror movie set in space. I am not a fan of horror movies but it is probably the best ever made. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 6:19:18 PM EDT
[#47]
I thought the third one was alright. Ok. Passable. Kind of. I liked Charles S. Dutton.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 6:24:28 PM EDT
[#48]
I don't even know what to say about Prometheus. It was pitched as a prequel that would close the loop on the derelict on LV-426. In reality it never did and it could have been a stand alone reboot.
Alien and Aliens DO NOT tie in with the events of Prometheus. Different planet (LV-223) with the same Weyland-Yutani Company. To me it seemed like a way for Sir Ridley to say F U to all other Alien movies after his. On top of this it was a mess of a story and made little sense. The Space Jockey was way more interesting and scary as the fossilized remains of a non-humanoid alien species from a zillion years ago, not the buff human "engineers." They are not going to complete the story arc of Prometheus and Covenant so F U too. A dead end and thankfully so. Another thing, no matter what I'm an Alien fan and will watch any new movie in the franchise. Take my money you bastards. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 6:26:02 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The OP is lame. We should nuke this thread from orbit. SPNI! |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 6:54:09 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP absolutely does not nail it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The first was tolerable, after that meh. I started watching Prometheus the other night for the first time, not knowing it was in the series. It looked promising, then it started getting stupid feeling. Sure as shit, fucking Alien. I wanted Contact or Arrival, no, I get octopus snake Japanese porn. Aliens suck. OP absolutely does not nail it. FPNI |
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