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Posted: 5/20/2022 3:02:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Neutron is fitted with a capsule they will be removing the faring for that flight. Given it has to be expended to make the 15000kg payload, that would work since it won't be worrying about re-entry and landing. That will make it much more expensive than Falcon and Crew Dragon, but a possible additional option to add to the menu. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 3:33:04 PM EDT
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I guess it worked.
No fireball disappointment |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 4:11:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess it worked. No fireball disappointment The Atlas and Centaur stages worked fine (as expected). The Starliner itself still has a series of tests to pass, some of which it has already failed although the failures did not force a mission scrub, yet. It's still got to rendezvous with the ISS, dock, depart, deorbit and successfully land. Even if the rest of the mission goes to profile, Boeing's got to figure out why the first orbital maneuvering unit failed immediately after start and the second unit shut down unexpectedly after 20-something seconds, before the third finally finished the orbital insertion burn. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:47:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:51:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe 2 on the right are pulling out. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:52:38 AM EDT
[#6]
You said insertion...
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:55:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope it blows up. Hello Chinese bot. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:16:29 AM EDT
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So, two of the 12 thrusters failed, the temperature control system malfunctioned, and the docking mechanism didn’t work the first time?
Amazing job, Boeing!! 
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:18:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, two of the 12 thrusters failed, the temperature control system malfunctioned, and the docking mechanism didn’t work the first time? Amazing job, Boeing!! Nothing another couple billion dollars can't solve. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:21:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks very similar to the Hitachi Starliner Lol lol lol |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:26:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Launch was fake. Boeing is just streaming Kerbal. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:29:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's about time. SpaceX has been doing this for how long now? |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:33:17 AM EDT
[#13]
Great job…by 1960s-1970s standards.
*laughs in SpaceX* |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:36:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great job…by 1960s-1970s standards. *laughs in SpaceX* It really comes across as several generations difference of tech. The metaphor I use, if anyone here is a fan of Babylon 5. Dragon capsule is like a battle proven White Star and Starliner is a Hyperion Class Cruiser they are still working the bugs out of.  Babylon 5: ISA White Star | Ship Breakdown  Babylon 5: Hyperion Class Heavy Cruiser | Ship Breakdown |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:41:18 AM EDT
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I didn't like someone could make a rocket that looked more stupid than Blew Origin and along comes Boeing. That think looks like something Russia would build.
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:42:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't like someone could make a rocket that looked more stupid than Blew Origin and along comes Boeing. That think looks like something Russia would build. Stop making fun of my Kerbal game. I have so many mods that I'm too lazy to find the right parts. Kharn |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:43:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, but it's custom Kerbal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Launch was fake. Boeing is just streaming Kerbal. That was painful to watch. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:45:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop making fun of my Kerbal game. I have so many mods that I'm too lazy to find the right parts. Kharn I would never, I can't seem to figure that game out to save my life. I keep putting a shit ton of power on the thing and going full blast, my GF says I'm compensating for something. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 12:10:32 PM EDT
[#19]
Complete waste of money along with the SLS program.
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Posted: 5/22/2022 5:59:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Complete waste of money along with the SLS program. Do you even legacy? |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 6:05:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Complete waste of money along with the SLS program. Dissimilar Redundancy. Plus it really rubs it in Russia’s face that we have three new manned systems coming on line in such short order. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 5:48:21 PM EDT
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De-orbit and landing webcast:
 Boeing #Starliner Spacecraft Deorbit Burn and Landing (Official NASA Broadcast) |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:04:52 PM EDT
[#23]
How close does this thing hit the landing zone?
Meters or kilometers? |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:10:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How close does this thing hit the landing zone? Meters or kilometers? We won't know until after it lands. Practically speaking we won't know until it has completed several flights. It's still not outside the realm of possibility that it disintegrates on the way down. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:15:28 PM EDT
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I'd be happy to have a second crew service vehicle. I'm less than amused this one turned into this and it's curious this one had some engine anomalies.
Until they had a perfect mission I would not want to ride in that thing |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:37:37 PM EDT
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It's been hazy today. I can't make out the mountains very well.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:38:15 PM EDT
[#27]
I remember all the Rees when SpaceX did all their displays in meters. Boeing does the same.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:40:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:41:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:41:49 PM EDT
[#30]
Other than for repositioning the space station, there is no need for Starliner. It is inferior in every way to the Space X Crew Dragon.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:47:44 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryCool planes. My friend works them, and says they're a lot of fun. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:48:42 PM EDT
[#32]
7x speed of sound on reentry
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:50:28 PM EDT
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It's been hazy today. I can't make out the mountains very well. We heard the sonic boom but it was too dark to see.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:52:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, two of the 12 thrusters failed, the temperature control system malfunctioned, and the docking mechanism didn’t work the first time? Amazing job, Boeing!! I'll bet there's quiet discussion about FT-3 being uncrewed as well. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:54:55 PM EDT
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yeah but how many POC were involved in its launch and recovery?
Lets get to the part that matters, NASA. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:57:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Other than for repositioning the space station, there is no need for Starliner. It is inferior in every way to the Space X Crew Dragon. Using the thrusters on a crew capsule just to reposition a space station is kind of stupid. ION engines like that used on Dawn and other recent interplanetary probes are the way to go. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:01:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Other than for repositioning the space station, there is no need for Starliner. It is inferior in every way to the Space X Crew Dragon. Makes Roscosmos look bad. Now we have two options, where as they have one ancient version that no one will touch. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:03:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes Roscosmos look bad. Now we have two options, where as they have one ancient version that no one will touch. Three if/when Dreamchaser ever comes online. Man that is one sexy ship. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:04:37 PM EDT
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Saw the cool NASA B-57 fly over the gun range and shoot landings at our local airport
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:07:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 7x speed of sound on reentry Reentry from orbit should be faster than that. No? |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:14:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, two of the 12 thrusters failed, the temperature control system malfunctioned, and the docking mechanism didn’t work the first time? Amazing job, Boeing!! I'm at a conference in San Antonio. There are a couple of Johnson Space Center dudes here. From what I understand they, Boeing, completed docking after expending all their backup systems. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:14:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes Roscosmos look bad. Now we have two options, where as they have one ancient version that no one will touch. Two options plus Orion and soon to be Starship. I do not take great pleasure for how far the once-mighty Soviet space program has fallen. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:15:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reentry from orbit should be faster than that. No? Thats likely the speed when it hit the Mexican coast. Mexico got some fireworks and booms today. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:16:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm at a conference in San Antonio. There are a couple of Johnson Space Center dudes here. From what I understand they, Boeing, completed docking after expending all their backup systems. That was the two of three thrusters in that pod. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:19:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes Roscosmos look bad. Now we have two options, where as they have one ancient version that no one will touch. Well - sorta. They've never finished the human spaceflight rating for the Atlas V, as they were intending to launch it with the new ULA Vulcan booster, which doesn't quite exist yet. I don't think Starliner has received a human spaceflight certification yet, either. All the remaining Atlas V boosters have already been sold, so ULA would need to cancel someone else's Atlas V launch to try to squeeze in another Starliner Launch to, for instance, get it certified for human spaceflight. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:24:15 PM EDT
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Even if BO delivers all the engines they said they would tomorrow. How many years and millions of dollars would it cost to get Vulcan-Centaur certified to carry crew?
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:26:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two options plus Orion and soon to be Starship. I do not take great pleasure for how far the once-mighty Soviet space program has fallen. I wouldn't except they tried to flex nuts on us. They forgot how we kept them afloat, hired their experts and bought their engines. A pimp's love is different than that of a square but a ho's gotta remember who feeds them |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:34:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even if BO delivers all the engines they said they would tomorrow. How many years and millions of dollars would it cost to get Vulcan-Centaur certified to carry crew? I think it is being man-rated from the get-go. Centaur already is and the BE-4 has to be for the New Glenn. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:38:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was the two of three thrusters in that pod. Anyone taking bets on any more Starliner astronauts "retiring to spend time with their family?" |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:40:46 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember all the Rees when SpaceX did all their displays in meters. Boeing does the same. I don't understand the hate for metric. Everyone else in the world, including US military and science, use metric. I understand not wanting to retool our whole machining industry, but lets move on |
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