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Posted: 5/19/2022 5:40:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: snip.... fancy titanium cups like... snip the good old fashioned cheap aluminum bacon grease pot was the high speed low drag pot for use for many years for light weight hikers. Its cheap, its light, its big enough to actually cook in and store the stove, windscreen and fuel in. @steviesterno16 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0044UU5JS?tag=arfcom00-20 |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:01:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been thinking about picking up one of the Pro-Tec PT A-Bravo bump helmets. I gave away my Petzl climbing helmet years ago when I quit climbing and the only bump style I've got left is my whitewater kayaking helmet which I've never liked. I've still got two motorcycle helmets but I'd rather have something lighter and with mounting rails on it. Check botach.com, they usually have a variety of bump helmets on sale. Here is one...  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 2:25:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of examples from the summer of love proving even bump helmets have a place. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: After watching Reginald Denny (sp?) get bricked live on TV, I'm convinced even a cheap bump helmet is a very good investment. The old pro-tec shells were pretty good, I use mine when I climb a ladder to clean gutters. Lots of examples from the summer of love proving even bump helmets have a place. Curious about the general train of thought: @TNC mentioned using a bump helmet on a ladder. I can see that. More people are injured falling off ladders, than during riots, but the Reginald Denny part? A) were you planning on driving around with the bump helmet on, in case of the rare occurrence of getting pulled out of your vehicle and smacked in the head with a brick? B) even if you DID have a helmet on, much like GD points out, "If the guy is armored, target all the unarmored areas". I'm not letting someone pull me out of my vehicle. C) not sure what the laws are in your AO, but vehicles fall under MI's Castle Law. Try to attack me, enter my vehicle or pull me out of it and lethal force is allowed. Similarly, with the riots; I prefer to stay away from the BS. Too old for tardjousting. As for bump helmets, if you have NV, then yeah, they're lighter and usually vented and therefore a little more comfortable for NV use, but if it's just for brain bucket protection from inadvertent impacts, bicycling helmets are easy to find, well vented, really lightweight and available pretty cheaply. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 2:42:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Curious about the general train of thought: @TNC mentioned using a bump helmet on a ladder. I can see that. More people are injured falling off ladders, than during riots, but the Reginald Denny part? A) were you planning on driving around with the bump helmet on, in case of the rare occurrence of getting pulled out of your vehicle and smacked in the head with a brick? B) even if you DID have a helmet on, much like GD points out, "If the guy is armored, target all the unarmored areas". I'm not letting someone pull me out of my vehicle. C) not sure what the laws are in your AO, but vehicles fall under MI's Castle Law. Try to attack me, enter my vehicle or pull me out of it and lethal force is allowed. Similarly, with the riots; I prefer to stay away from the BS. Too old for tardjousting. As for bump helmets, if you have NV, then yeah, they're lighter and usually vented and therefore a little more comfortable for NV use, but if it's just for brain bucket protection from inadvertent impacts, bicycling helmets are easy to find, well vented, really lightweight and available pretty cheaply. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: After watching Reginald Denny (sp?) get bricked live on TV, I'm convinced even a cheap bump helmet is a very good investment. The old pro-tec shells were pretty good, I use mine when I climb a ladder to clean gutters. Lots of examples from the summer of love proving even bump helmets have a place. Curious about the general train of thought: @TNC mentioned using a bump helmet on a ladder. I can see that. More people are injured falling off ladders, than during riots, but the Reginald Denny part? A) were you planning on driving around with the bump helmet on, in case of the rare occurrence of getting pulled out of your vehicle and smacked in the head with a brick? B) even if you DID have a helmet on, much like GD points out, "If the guy is armored, target all the unarmored areas". I'm not letting someone pull me out of my vehicle. C) not sure what the laws are in your AO, but vehicles fall under MI's Castle Law. Try to attack me, enter my vehicle or pull me out of it and lethal force is allowed. Similarly, with the riots; I prefer to stay away from the BS. Too old for tardjousting. As for bump helmets, if you have NV, then yeah, they're lighter and usually vented and therefore a little more comfortable for NV use, but if it's just for brain bucket protection from inadvertent impacts, bicycling helmets are easy to find, well vented, really lightweight and available pretty cheaply. I want one for night vision (on my short list of things to buy), mounting a GoPro and a light, hearing protection mounting, urban exploration and some of the environmental work I do which sometimes involves going in structures with no power. I'd like to have an armored version, but for actual practical usage in the hot most of the year south, a bump helmet is a better choice. I do my best to avoid all fiery but mostly peaceful gatherings but I also have an ARB bumper on the front that'll work much better than any bump helmet. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 4:38:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Curious about the general train of thought: @TNC mentioned using a bump helmet on a ladder. I can see that. More people are injured falling off ladders, than during riots, but the Reginald Denny part? A) were you planning on driving around with the bump helmet on, in case of the rare occurrence of getting pulled out of your vehicle and smacked in the head with a brick? B) even if you DID have a helmet on, much like GD points out, "If the guy is armored, target all the unarmored areas". I'm not letting someone pull me out of my vehicle. C) not sure what the laws are in your AO, but vehicles fall under MI's Castle Law. Try to attack me, enter my vehicle or pull me out of it and lethal force is allowed. Similarly, with the riots; I prefer to stay away from the BS. Too old for tardjousting. As for bump helmets, if you have NV, then yeah, they're lighter and usually vented and therefore a little more comfortable for NV use, but if it's just for brain bucket protection from inadvertent impacts, bicycling helmets are easy to find, well vented, really lightweight and available pretty cheaply. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: After watching Reginald Denny (sp?) get bricked live on TV, I'm convinced even a cheap bump helmet is a very good investment. The old pro-tec shells were pretty good, I use mine when I climb a ladder to clean gutters. Lots of examples from the summer of love proving even bump helmets have a place. Curious about the general train of thought: @TNC mentioned using a bump helmet on a ladder. I can see that. More people are injured falling off ladders, than during riots, but the Reginald Denny part? A) were you planning on driving around with the bump helmet on, in case of the rare occurrence of getting pulled out of your vehicle and smacked in the head with a brick? B) even if you DID have a helmet on, much like GD points out, "If the guy is armored, target all the unarmored areas". I'm not letting someone pull me out of my vehicle. C) not sure what the laws are in your AO, but vehicles fall under MI's Castle Law. Try to attack me, enter my vehicle or pull me out of it and lethal force is allowed. Similarly, with the riots; I prefer to stay away from the BS. Too old for tardjousting. As for bump helmets, if you have NV, then yeah, they're lighter and usually vented and therefore a little more comfortable for NV use, but if it's just for brain bucket protection from inadvertent impacts, bicycling helmets are easy to find, well vented, really lightweight and available pretty cheaply. A colleague fell 18 feet off a ladder and nearly died. The blood clot under his skull left him with permanent disability. Even a simple helmet would have probably saved him, and that made an impression on me. Not a hardhat, but a fitted helmet with a chin strap and padding. Reginald Denny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Reginald_Denny IIRC he ended up with permanent disabiliity as well. Yeah, I'm not driving around town in a helmet every day. But when Seattle was burning I used to drive on freeways that got shut down by protesters on the regular. So the helmet rode in the back seat. If I could see trouble coming in time, it would be useful. Closest I came, I managed to avoid the backup when the protesters shut down the Ship Canal bridge on I5. I saw the traffic, checked the news, and GTFO the freeway to find a different way home. Years ago my wife and I narrowly avoided being caught in the yearly May Day riot, which has been going on in Seattle every year for a decade. I turned on the TV news and saw a van surrounded by black bloc, being pummeled with bricks, in an intersection we went through 15 minutes earlier. We had no idea any of that was taking place, but that day got my attention. I bet that guy wished he had a helmet. And armor, and a can of pepper spray the size of a fire extinguisher. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 5:45:35 PM EDT
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If I'm going to put a helmet in my vehicle for a perceived violent need then it'll be my ACH.
I did just get a skater style helmet that I just found. It needs a buckle but besides that it's in good shape. It's even a dark green. To bad it's not smaller. I'd paint an A on the front for my son. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 7:43:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Years ago my wife and I narrowly avoided being caught in the yearly May Day riot, which has been going on in Seattle every year for a decade. I turned on the TV news and saw a van surrounded by black bloc, being pummeled with bricks, in an intersection we went through 15 minutes earlier. We had no idea any of that was taking place, but that day got my attention. I bet that guy wished he had a helmet. And armor, and a can of pepper spray the size of a fire extinguisher. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: After watching Reginald Denny (sp?) get bricked live on TV, I'm convinced even a cheap bump helmet is a very good investment. The old pro-tec shells were pretty good, I use mine when I climb a ladder to clean gutters. Lots of examples from the summer of love proving even bump helmets have a place. Curious about the general train of thought: @TNC mentioned using a bump helmet on a ladder. I can see that. More people are injured falling off ladders, than during riots, but the Reginald Denny part? A) were you planning on driving around with the bump helmet on, in case of the rare occurrence of getting pulled out of your vehicle and smacked in the head with a brick? B) even if you DID have a helmet on, much like GD points out, "If the guy is armored, target all the unarmored areas". I'm not letting someone pull me out of my vehicle. C) not sure what the laws are in your AO, but vehicles fall under MI's Castle Law. Try to attack me, enter my vehicle or pull me out of it and lethal force is allowed. Similarly, with the riots; I prefer to stay away from the BS. Too old for tardjousting. As for bump helmets, if you have NV, then yeah, they're lighter and usually vented and therefore a little more comfortable for NV use, but if it's just for brain bucket protection from inadvertent impacts, bicycling helmets are easy to find, well vented, really lightweight and available pretty cheaply. Years ago my wife and I narrowly avoided being caught in the yearly May Day riot, which has been going on in Seattle every year for a decade. I turned on the TV news and saw a van surrounded by black bloc, being pummeled with bricks, in an intersection we went through 15 minutes earlier. We had no idea any of that was taking place, but that day got my attention. I bet that guy wished he had a helmet. And armor, and a can of pepper spray the size of a fire extinguisher. That would be 'lead foot' time. I wouldn't even bother screwing with pepper spray. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:12:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: If I'm going to put a helmet in my vehicle for a perceived violent need then it'll be my ACH. I did just get a skater style helmet that I just found. It needs a buckle but besides that it's in good shape. It's even a dark green. To bad it's not smaller. I'd paint an A on the front for my son. I like your Style... |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:04:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be 'lead foot' time. I wouldn't even bother screwing with pepper spray. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: After watching Reginald Denny (sp?) get bricked live on TV, I'm convinced even a cheap bump helmet is a very good investment. The old pro-tec shells were pretty good, I use mine when I climb a ladder to clean gutters. Lots of examples from the summer of love proving even bump helmets have a place. Curious about the general train of thought: @TNC mentioned using a bump helmet on a ladder. I can see that. More people are injured falling off ladders, than during riots, but the Reginald Denny part? A) were you planning on driving around with the bump helmet on, in case of the rare occurrence of getting pulled out of your vehicle and smacked in the head with a brick? B) even if you DID have a helmet on, much like GD points out, "If the guy is armored, target all the unarmored areas". I'm not letting someone pull me out of my vehicle. C) not sure what the laws are in your AO, but vehicles fall under MI's Castle Law. Try to attack me, enter my vehicle or pull me out of it and lethal force is allowed. Similarly, with the riots; I prefer to stay away from the BS. Too old for tardjousting. As for bump helmets, if you have NV, then yeah, they're lighter and usually vented and therefore a little more comfortable for NV use, but if it's just for brain bucket protection from inadvertent impacts, bicycling helmets are easy to find, well vented, really lightweight and available pretty cheaply. Years ago my wife and I narrowly avoided being caught in the yearly May Day riot, which has been going on in Seattle every year for a decade. I turned on the TV news and saw a van surrounded by black bloc, being pummeled with bricks, in an intersection we went through 15 minutes earlier. We had no idea any of that was taking place, but that day got my attention. I bet that guy wished he had a helmet. And armor, and a can of pepper spray the size of a fire extinguisher. That would be 'lead foot' time. I wouldn't even bother screwing with pepper spray. P: 5000 pound vehicle with chrome bumper. How much throttle? all of it. A: Pepper spray out the window C: Dismount and unass E: Fight |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:04:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:05:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes it was a pretty good video and kind of put it in the face of those who dont think anything will ever happen here,also those who think civilians have no business owning or using kit. civies do not need kits, period. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:09:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: civies do not need kits, period. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes it was a pretty good video and kind of put it in the face of those who dont think anything will ever happen here,also those who think civilians have no business owning or using kit. civies do not need kits, period.  Attached FileNeed is a really ugly word. Who determines what one needs…? |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:11:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: civies do not need kits, period. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes it was a pretty good video and kind of put it in the face of those who dont think anything will ever happen here,also those who think civilians have no business owning or using kit. civies do not need kits, period. I'm assuming this is the intro some some silly joke or misdirection leading up to a coherent and well-reasoned post, so please do continue. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:15:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm assuming this is the intro some some silly joke or misdirection leading up to a coherent and well-reasoned post, so please do continue. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes it was a pretty good video and kind of put it in the face of those who dont think anything will ever happen here,also those who think civilians have no business owning or using kit. civies do not need kits, period. I'm assuming this is the intro some some silly joke or misdirection leading up to a coherent and well-reasoned post, so please do continue. Stand fast. I'm getting a reading on the sarcasm meter. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stand fast. I'm getting a reading on the sarcasm meter. How many pings....do you have a machine that pings? |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 12:38:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: civies do not need kits, period. People who refer to the people as "civies" are exactly why civies need kit. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 1:20:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: civies do not need kits, period. This would make sense to anyone who believes that the second amendment is about hunting. Except it doesn't and it isn't. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 1:23:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This would make sense to anyone who believes that the second amendment is about hunting. Except it doesn't and it isn't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: civies do not need kits, period. This would make sense to anyone who believes that the second amendment is about hunting. Except it doesn't and it isn't. Or anyone who would gladly take your guns because their supervisor told them to. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 1:44:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or anyone who would gladly take your guns because their supervisor told them to. The Nuremberg answer, " I was just following orders" will not save anyone from justice. Have you seen that movie where only the government had guns? Shindeler's List. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 1:54:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: civies do not need kits, period. Sure thing jackboot. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 3:45:43 PM EDT
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INFO ON THE SAWYER SQUEEZE:
The boy and I had recently converted to the squeeze from my old Sweetwater Guardian (I loved that filter but they are no longer available). We did one trip in the fall. He just went on a trip this week. We had backflushed our filters with tap water, last fall. Let them dry out and stored them. Evidently, hard water can deposit calcium/lime etc which dries in the filter. He said his first attempt at filter was a no go, period. Luckily, he was with 3 other guys and everyone had filters, plus some iodine back up. He attempted to back flush several times and said that once the filter was wet, he was able to get water to back flush. Then tried filtering normally and everything was fine. Just kind of freaked him out, initially, that he thought the gear failed and he could have been really relying on it. Some guys store theirs wet after flushing with distilled water, and flush it out with vinegar water every couple months to prevent any growth. So, while filters are definitely convenient on one hand, they take special handling on the other (no freeze, keep clean, need to wet before working well). Also learned to make sure you use lots of pressure when back flushing, otherwise the back flush takes the path of least resistance and doesn't necessarily clean all the pores. |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 6:17:58 PM EDT
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MSR Trail Base Personal Pump and Gravity Water Filter System
Price reduced from $159.95 to $119.89.  |
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Posted: 5/21/2022 9:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: INFO ON THE SAWYER SQUEEZE: The boy and I had recently converted to the squeeze from my old Sweetwater Guardian (I loved that filter but they are no longer available). We did one trip in the fall. He just went on a trip this week. We had backflushed our filters with tap water, last fall. Let them dry out and stored them. Evidently, hard water can deposit calcium/lime etc which dries in the filter. He said his first attempt at filter was a no go, period. Luckily, he was with 3 other guys and everyone had filters, plus some iodine back up. He attempted to back flush several times and said that once the filter was wet, he was able to get water to back flush. Then tried filtering normally and everything was fine. Just kind of freaked him out, initially, that he thought the gear failed and he could have been really relying on it. Some guys store theirs wet after flushing with distilled water, and flush it out with vinegar water every couple months to prevent any growth. So, while filters are definitely convenient on one hand, they take special handling on the other (no freeze, keep clean, need to wet before working well). Also learned to make sure you use lots of pressure when back flushing, otherwise the back flush takes the path of least resistance and doesn't necessarily clean all the pores. Great info, thanks. I have very hard water here. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:19:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great info, thanks. I have very hard water here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: INFO ON THE SAWYER SQUEEZE: The boy and I had recently converted to the squeeze from my old Sweetwater Guardian (I loved that filter but they are no longer available). We did one trip in the fall. He just went on a trip this week. We had backflushed our filters with tap water, last fall. Let them dry out and stored them. Evidently, hard water can deposit calcium/lime etc which dries in the filter. He said his first attempt at filter was a no go, period. Luckily, he was with 3 other guys and everyone had filters, plus some iodine back up. He attempted to back flush several times and said that once the filter was wet, he was able to get water to back flush. Then tried filtering normally and everything was fine. Just kind of freaked him out, initially, that he thought the gear failed and he could have been really relying on it. Some guys store theirs wet after flushing with distilled water, and flush it out with vinegar water every couple months to prevent any growth. So, while filters are definitely convenient on one hand, they take special handling on the other (no freeze, keep clean, need to wet before working well). Also learned to make sure you use lots of pressure when back flushing, otherwise the back flush takes the path of least resistance and doesn't necessarily clean all the pores. Great info, thanks. I have very hard water here. I use water from the Zerowater filter for back flushing Sawyer filters (after a little bleach). No deposits. I use it in the steam cleaner too, for the same reason. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 9:46:39 AM EDT
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Somewhat related: https://taskandpurpose.com/gear-tech/best-tactical-pens/
I actually have the 5.11 pen... it's so obnoxiously big that I never carry it. That Gerber model looks nice though... uhh but not for 70 FREAKIN' DOLLARS. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:05:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: INFO ON THE SAWYER SQUEEZE: The boy and I had recently converted to the squeeze from my old Sweetwater Guardian (I loved that filter but they are no longer available). We did one trip in the fall. He just went on a trip this week. We had backflushed our filters with tap water, last fall. Let them dry out and stored them. Evidently, hard water can deposit calcium/lime etc which dries in the filter. He said his first attempt at filter was a no go, period. Luckily, he was with 3 other guys and everyone had filters, plus some iodine back up. He attempted to back flush several times and said that once the filter was wet, he was able to get water to back flush. Then tried filtering normally and everything was fine. Just kind of freaked him out, initially, that he thought the gear failed and he could have been really relying on it. Some guys store theirs wet after flushing with distilled water, and flush it out with vinegar water every couple months to prevent any growth. So, while filters are definitely convenient on one hand, they take special handling on the other (no freeze, keep clean, need to wet before working well). Also learned to make sure you use lots of pressure when back flushing, otherwise the back flush takes the path of least resistance and doesn't necessarily clean all the pores. Good stuff to know. I've got one in my hunting kit that I should take out and check. I back flushed it with tap water last time I used it. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:23:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good stuff to know. I've got one in my hunting kit that I should take out and check. I back flushed it with tap water last time I used it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: INFO ON THE SAWYER SQUEEZE: The boy and I had recently converted to the squeeze from my old Sweetwater Guardian (I loved that filter but they are no longer available). We did one trip in the fall. He just went on a trip this week. We had backflushed our filters with tap water, last fall. Let them dry out and stored them. Evidently, hard water can deposit calcium/lime etc which dries in the filter. He said his first attempt at filter was a no go, period. Luckily, he was with 3 other guys and everyone had filters, plus some iodine back up. He attempted to back flush several times and said that once the filter was wet, he was able to get water to back flush. Then tried filtering normally and everything was fine. Just kind of freaked him out, initially, that he thought the gear failed and he could have been really relying on it. Some guys store theirs wet after flushing with distilled water, and flush it out with vinegar water every couple months to prevent any growth. So, while filters are definitely convenient on one hand, they take special handling on the other (no freeze, keep clean, need to wet before working well). Also learned to make sure you use lots of pressure when back flushing, otherwise the back flush takes the path of least resistance and doesn't necessarily clean all the pores. Good stuff to know. I've got one in my hunting kit that I should take out and check. I back flushed it with tap water last time I used it. After further research and playing around with mine, I think it was much more the issue of having been used and then dried out rather than mineral deposits. It takes a bit for them to wet out, from a dried state, and allow flow again. I have no idea, the science behind this. Why a new dry one flows fine. A used and then dried one has to be wetted again. I would make a point of only back flushing with clean water. I don't want dirty water on that side of the filter. But it seems that back flushing is the best way to re-wet a used filter. You'll have to figure out your preferred SOP. I'll continue to work around this inconvenience until something better comes along. I may write Sawyer and ask what they recommend. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:36:33 AM EDT
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Anyone know of a cup that the Grayl will nestle in? It's kind of an odd shape.
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:51:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People who refer to the people as "civies" are exactly why civies need kit. Bingo |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:52:47 AM EDT
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Just ordered a new buckle for that skate helmet.
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:54:45 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just ordered a new buckle for that skate helmet. Look at the big spender flexing with his top tier civvie kit!
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:58:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After further research and playing around with mine, I think it was much more the issue of having been used and then dried out rather than mineral deposits. It takes a bit for them to wet out, from a dried state, and allow flow again. I have no idea, the science behind this. Why a new dry one flows fine. A used and then dried one has to be wetted again. I would make a point of only back flushing with clean water. I don't want dirty water on that side of the filter. But it seems that back flushing is the best way to re-wet a used filter. You'll have to figure out your preferred SOP. I'll continue to work around this inconvenience until something better comes along. I may write Sawyer and ask what they recommend. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: INFO ON THE SAWYER SQUEEZE: The boy and I had recently converted to the squeeze from my old Sweetwater Guardian (I loved that filter but they are no longer available). We did one trip in the fall. He just went on a trip this week. We had backflushed our filters with tap water, last fall. Let them dry out and stored them. Evidently, hard water can deposit calcium/lime etc which dries in the filter. He said his first attempt at filter was a no go, period. Luckily, he was with 3 other guys and everyone had filters, plus some iodine back up. He attempted to back flush several times and said that once the filter was wet, he was able to get water to back flush. Then tried filtering normally and everything was fine. Just kind of freaked him out, initially, that he thought the gear failed and he could have been really relying on it. Some guys store theirs wet after flushing with distilled water, and flush it out with vinegar water every couple months to prevent any growth. So, while filters are definitely convenient on one hand, they take special handling on the other (no freeze, keep clean, need to wet before working well). Also learned to make sure you use lots of pressure when back flushing, otherwise the back flush takes the path of least resistance and doesn't necessarily clean all the pores. Good stuff to know. I've got one in my hunting kit that I should take out and check. I back flushed it with tap water last time I used it. After further research and playing around with mine, I think it was much more the issue of having been used and then dried out rather than mineral deposits. It takes a bit for them to wet out, from a dried state, and allow flow again. I have no idea, the science behind this. Why a new dry one flows fine. A used and then dried one has to be wetted again. I would make a point of only back flushing with clean water. I don't want dirty water on that side of the filter. But it seems that back flushing is the best way to re-wet a used filter. You'll have to figure out your preferred SOP. I'll continue to work around this inconvenience until something better comes along. I may write Sawyer and ask what they recommend. I've got one or two of those filters with some usage, and some new ones. It wouldn't be hard to devise a flow rate test. If I have some free time I'll give it a try. The difference between wet and dry performance is probably due to surface tension in the capillary tubes. If I understand these things correctly the dirty water flows into porous, hollow tubes and then permeates outward to the clean side. Priming it with the little syringe might help it flow faster. I try to store them dry since I don't want bacteria/fungi/whatever growing in them. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:22:00 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at the big spender flexing with his top tier civvie kit! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just ordered a new buckle for that skate helmet. Look at the big spender flexing with his top tier civvie kit! Especially since it was free.My ACH is for serious issues. I don't think I want to deal with another tbi. It took years for the seizures to go away from the last one. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 11:31:41 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Especially since it was free.My ACH is for serious issues. I don't think I want to deal with another tbi. It took years for the seizures to go away from the last one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just ordered a new buckle for that skate helmet. Look at the big spender flexing with his top tier civvie kit! Especially since it was free.My ACH is for serious issues. I don't think I want to deal with another tbi. It took years for the seizures to go away from the last one. That illustrates the utility of ballistic helmets. There's a tendency to dismiss them since they won't stop direct rifle hits. But there are plenty of flying objects that will ruin your day, that are easily stopped by a helmet. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:54:06 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That illustrates the utility of ballistic helmets. There's a tendency to dismiss them since they won't stop direct rifle hits. But there are plenty of flying objects that will ruin your day, that are easily stopped by a helmet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just ordered a new buckle for that skate helmet. Look at the big spender flexing with his top tier civvie kit! Especially since it was free.My ACH is for serious issues. I don't think I want to deal with another tbi. It took years for the seizures to go away from the last one. That illustrates the utility of ballistic helmets. There's a tendency to dismiss them since they won't stop direct rifle hits. But there are plenty of flying objects that will ruin your day, that are easily stopped by a helmet. It doesn't even have to be flying objects, bang your head on a rusty nail or a piece of rebar or a low hanging branch or any number of other things- especially during a critical time (another good reason to stay up to date on tetanus and carry a boo-boo kit to clean and get an antibiotic on any cuts or scratches quickly). 
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:21:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Fun with a poncho:
http://www.alpharubicon.com/prepinfo/ponchotent.htm?&cuid=1d1e26bd4cb01bc6372fa8ca61a8792d Look for “alpha poncho tent” on YouTube to see people trying this out. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:28:06 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: civies do not need kits, period. Dakota, is that you? |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:52:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dakota, is that you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: civies do not need kits, period. Dakota, is that you?  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 6:25:54 PM EDT
[#39]
Someone upthread mentioned using a bike helmet as a bump helmet. That's probably a not a good idea, based on this article from Greg Ellefretz:
If you dismount, unbuckle your helmet. A buckled helmet makes it very easy for an attacker to control your movements. The attacker can just grab your helmet and drag your head down. Where the head goes, the body follows. I've dragged 250 lb. bike cops around by their helmets all day long while teaching police bike school. When someone grabs your buckled helmet, it's scary how much control they have over you. Make it a habit to unbuckle your helmet whenever you step off your bike. https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/your-tactical-training-scenario-attacked-on-a-bicycle This is specific to cycling helmets with big vents that make it easier to grab ahold of. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 7:13:29 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone upthread mentioned using a bike helmet as a bump helmet. That's probably a not a good idea, based on this article from Greg Ellefretz: https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/your-tactical-training-scenario-attacked-on-a-bicycle This is specific to cycling helmets with big vents that make it easier to grab ahold of. Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone upthread mentioned using a bike helmet as a bump helmet. That's probably a not a good idea, based on this article from Greg Ellefretz: If you dismount, unbuckle your helmet. A buckled helmet makes it very easy for an attacker to control your movements. The attacker can just grab your helmet and drag your head down. Where the head goes, the body follows. I've dragged 250 lb. bike cops around by their helmets all day long while teaching police bike school. When someone grabs your buckled helmet, it's scary how much control they have over you. Make it a habit to unbuckle your helmet whenever you step off your bike. https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/your-tactical-training-scenario-attacked-on-a-bicycle This is specific to cycling helmets with big vents that make it easier to grab ahold of. Combat helmets aren't really any better. The point would be to avoid hand-to-hand combat. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 8:13:56 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: After further research and playing around with mine, I think it was much more the issue of having been used and then dried out rather than mineral deposits. It takes a bit for them to wet out, from a dried state, and allow flow again. I have no idea, the science behind this. Why a new dry one flows fine. A used and then dried one has to be wetted again. I would make a point of only back flushing with clean water. I don't want dirty water on that side of the filter. But it seems that back flushing is the best way to re-wet a used filter. You'll have to figure out your preferred SOP. I'll continue to work around this inconvenience until something better comes along. I may write Sawyer and ask what they recommend. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: INFO ON THE SAWYER SQUEEZE: The boy and I had recently converted to the squeeze from my old Sweetwater Guardian (I loved that filter but they are no longer available). We did one trip in the fall. He just went on a trip this week. We had backflushed our filters with tap water, last fall. Let them dry out and stored them. Evidently, hard water can deposit calcium/lime etc which dries in the filter. He said his first attempt at filter was a no go, period. Luckily, he was with 3 other guys and everyone had filters, plus some iodine back up. He attempted to back flush several times and said that once the filter was wet, he was able to get water to back flush. Then tried filtering normally and everything was fine. Just kind of freaked him out, initially, that he thought the gear failed and he could have been really relying on it. Some guys store theirs wet after flushing with distilled water, and flush it out with vinegar water every couple months to prevent any growth. So, while filters are definitely convenient on one hand, they take special handling on the other (no freeze, keep clean, need to wet before working well). Also learned to make sure you use lots of pressure when back flushing, otherwise the back flush takes the path of least resistance and doesn't necessarily clean all the pores. Good stuff to know. I've got one in my hunting kit that I should take out and check. I back flushed it with tap water last time I used it. After further research and playing around with mine, I think it was much more the issue of having been used and then dried out rather than mineral deposits. It takes a bit for them to wet out, from a dried state, and allow flow again. I have no idea, the science behind this. Why a new dry one flows fine. A used and then dried one has to be wetted again. I would make a point of only back flushing with clean water. I don't want dirty water on that side of the filter. But it seems that back flushing is the best way to re-wet a used filter. You'll have to figure out your preferred SOP. I'll continue to work around this inconvenience until something better comes along. I may write Sawyer and ask what they recommend. Any minor deposits will change the insides of those hollow fiber tubes from perfectly smooth. This makes it easier to trap air bubbles, which impedes the flow. The directions (at least the original ones I read regarding gravity setups) noted this and instructed the user to backflush the filter with the small amount of filtered water that comes out, noting that this would help push the air bubbles out of the fibers and usually speed up the filtering thereafter. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 9:35:15 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Combat helmets aren't really any better. The point would be to avoid hand-to-hand combat. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Someone upthread mentioned using a bike helmet as a bump helmet. That's probably a not a good idea, based on this article from Greg Ellefretz: If you dismount, unbuckle your helmet. A buckled helmet makes it very easy for an attacker to control your movements. The attacker can just grab your helmet and drag your head down. Where the head goes, the body follows. I've dragged 250 lb. bike cops around by their helmets all day long while teaching police bike school. When someone grabs your buckled helmet, it's scary how much control they have over you. Make it a habit to unbuckle your helmet whenever you step off your bike. https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/your-tactical-training-scenario-attacked-on-a-bicycle This is specific to cycling helmets with big vents that make it easier to grab ahold of. Combat helmets aren't really any better. The point would be to avoid hand-to-hand combat. Yup. I've seen the same with the old bowling ball motorcycle helmets, and full face helmets. Anyone grabbing them can apply a lot more torque than they could to a bare head, and way more than a neck can handle. For NV or inadvertent impacts, yeah. For hand-to-hand? Rather not. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 10:16:30 AM EDT
[#43]
Yeah, grabbing helmet straps is no joke. I had an incident once where a drunk driver reached out his window and grabbed my helmet strap while I was on my bike. I was watching the cross street lights turn yellow, knowing what was going to happen when our light turned green, trying to unbuckle the strap with my left hand and walking my right hand up his face toward his eyes. About the time I got close to giving him the old Larry and Moe routine he let go and drove off.
A fellow caught in a fiery but peaceful protest could read that incident in reverse and take a lesson. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 11:17:43 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, grabbing helmet straps is no joke. I had an incident once where a drunk driver reached out his window and grabbed my helmet strap while I was on my bike. I was watching the cross street lights turn yellow, knowing what was going to happen when our light turned green, trying to unbuckle the strap with my left hand and walking my right hand up his face toward his eyes. About the time I got close to giving him the old Larry and Moe routine he let go and drove off. A fellow caught in a fiery but peaceful protest could read that incident in reverse and take a lesson. not being obtuse or snarkey. Isn't the point of being done up in full (overt) kit to not go hands on with someone? Seems like keeping them from closing distance would make sense, as would a blade used similar to handgun retention. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 12:00:35 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone upthread mentioned using a bike helmet as a bump helmet. That's probably a not a good idea, based on this article from Greg Ellefretz: https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/your-tactical-training-scenario-attacked-on-a-bicycle This is specific to cycling helmets with big vents that make it easier to grab ahold of. In an urban combat survival situation you'd shoot them in the face before they got that close. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 12:41:24 PM EDT
[#46]
I don't want to grapple with a helmet. I don't want to wear a helmet. It's about threat assessment.
A cop jumping off his bike trying to make an arrest has a high likelihood of grappling. A civilian in a shtf scenario imo would be similar to service members overseas. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 1:18:42 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People who refer to the people as "civies" are exactly why civies need kit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: civies do not need kits, period. People who refer to the people as "civies" are exactly why civies need kit. This is the best response to that attitude I've ever seen. And precisely correct. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 6:11:58 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: not being obtuse or snarkey. Isn't the point of being done up in full (overt) kit to not go hands on with someone? Seems like keeping them from closing distance would make sense, as would a blade used similar to handgun retention. Agree. I think the warning on helmets is good for bike riders. Take a break cycling, unhinge the helmet. I did it as a teen for comfort, not just self-preservation. If you are wearing kit and any kind of helmet, yeah, someone could grab and use it as a means of controlling your head and thus body movement, like in any grappling scenario, but like you said Stevie, you likely wouldn't even let them get that close, and as they started to approach, your gun or knife would quickly arrest any such moves on their part. If they do close with you and grab for your helmet first, they just committed and left themselves wide open for endless countermoves which you'd have already initiated. On a totally different subject, just saw these being peddled on ebay for $20 and up, found em cheaper, and thought some might like em... cool "take no prisoners" pirate style "no quarter" morale patch by Prometheus designs. https://www.knifecenter.com/item/PDW40227502/prometheus-design-werx-pdw-no-prisoners-flag-morale-patch This companies' morale patches usually sell out quickly, increase in value in the aftermarket, and these are already out of stock on their website.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 5:47:22 AM EDT
[#49]
Like my old football coach said.
Where the head goes...the body follows.... Usually said as they grabbed your face mask and pointed you in the direction of learning they wished to impress upon you. Lol. But as pointed out. If you shoot enough you ain't getting into a grappling scenario. Unless totally off guard. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 5:48:55 AM EDT
[#50]
One thing to.
Eye pro?. We hit that topic yet. |
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