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Posted: 11/22/2022 4:31:13 AM EDT
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So Ben Sulayem said he agrees that the FIA should open an investigation on Pérez « crash » in Monaco , because the telemetries shown by various commentators are interesting, to say the least…. But but, they will only do so if another team asks for it by filing an official protest..
Wait , what ? Since when does the FIA need other teams to investigate possible irregularities ? |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 9:04:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You forgot to mention that the 3 times it happened to Vettel it was always a Red Bull at fault.. Bring back old school qual ! 60min, 12 laps. Do whatever you want. I like old school 
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Posted: 11/22/2022 9:51:39 AM EDT
[#3]
Congrats to @davidrab for winning the inaugural F1 prediction survey challenge!
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Posted: 11/22/2022 10:00:32 AM EDT
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With Latifi and Schumacher gone, who will spin in every race and bring up the rear for all of 2023?
Yuki and Zhou are still in it so my guess is they'll take up the mantle. Fingers crossed it won't be Sargeant and the Williams is slightly less dogshit next year. |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 2:54:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So Ben Sulayem said he agrees that the FIA should open an investigation on Pérez « crash » in Monaco , because the telemetries shown by various commentators are interesting, to say the least…. But but, they will only do so if another team asks for it by filing an official protest.. Wait , what ? Since when does the FIA need other teams to investigate possible irregularities ? If it was an issue should of been brought up before the drama at brazil....because NOBODY talked about it til after Max didn't slow down to let Checo by...which still wouldn't of helped him in the standings.... |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 3:59:08 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryLol wtf is Checo’s wing? 
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Posted: 11/22/2022 4:01:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it was an issue should of been brought up before the drama at brazil....because NOBODY talked about it til after Max didn't slow down to let Checo by...which still wouldn't of helped him in the standings.... because at the time it arranged everybody, and nobody at red bull wanted the attention... wonder if anyone noticed though. didnt prevent the FIA to fuck with Briatore years later though... |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 4:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ferrari is still fighting PU issues and Haas was more than likely (it being the last race) running under parameters that they would want to thoroughly review after the race (wear, heat cycles, etc). Redlining the PU doing burnouts nullifies all of the data. Honestly, I doubt getting data from the PU had anything to do with it. I’m sure Ferrari has more than enough data on their PU and they didn’t seem to care that Leclerc did donuts. I think this was all Steiner thinking that Mick was giving him a big farewell FU, or maybe Steiner thinking that it wasn’t appropriate, considering that Mick punted a Williams in the race. I’d say it was 99% chance that Steiner was just being a dick. |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 8:44:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol wtf is Checo’s wing? Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol wtf is Checo’s wing? During a race in 2021 Hamilton made a comment that Perez "He's got so much rear end". It was then meme'd into oblivion. 
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Posted: 11/22/2022 9:13:11 PM EDT
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Couple of graphical observations and thoughts from the testing.
Red Bull’s drivers were wearing suits that were stripped of all sponsorship except for Red Bull and Oracle. All a bit strange. I really hope Sargeant comes up with a helmet design with a more subtle use of the American flag. The full flag is a bit much. |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 10:56:42 PM EDT
[#11]
China GP will be cancelled over COVID policy.
It isn't official but it is about to be announced. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 8:34:00 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: China GP will be cancelled over COVID policy. It isn't official but it is about to be announced. Hopefully it will be permanent! |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 8:34:47 AM EDT
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Listen to Verstappen at the time (up to the end of the video).
Prophetic. My bet is that he knew from the get go.  Verstappen Onboard Reaction Q3 Crash 2022 Monaco Grand Prix |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 8:57:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couple of graphical observations and thoughts from the testing. Red Bull’s drivers were wearing suits that were stripped of all sponsorship except for Red Bull and Oracle. All a bit strange. I really hope Sargeant comes up with a helmet design with a more subtle use of the American flag. The full flag is a bit much. Super common in MotoGP testing. All black bikes and leathers at end of and pre-season tests is pretty much the rule. Not 100% but a good part of the grid. This year there were a number of riders that switched teams and still under contract to their previous teams. They were not allowed to comment on the difference they found in the bikes. They could talk about their new bikes but not compare them their old bikes. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 9:17:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Super common in MotoGP testing. All black bikes and leathers at end of and pre-season tests is pretty much the rule. Not 100% but a good part of the grid. This year there were a number of riders that switched teams and still under contract to their previous teams. They were not allowed to comment on the difference they found in the bikes. They could talk about their new bikes but not compare them their old bikes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Couple of graphical observations and thoughts from the testing. Red Bull’s drivers were wearing suits that were stripped of all sponsorship except for Red Bull and Oracle. All a bit strange. I really hope Sargeant comes up with a helmet design with a more subtle use of the American flag. The full flag is a bit much. Super common in MotoGP testing. All black bikes and leathers at end of and pre-season tests is pretty much the rule. Not 100% but a good part of the grid. This year there were a number of riders that switched teams and still under contract to their previous teams. They were not allowed to comment on the difference they found in the bikes. They could talk about their new bikes but not compare them their old bikes. F1 sees it in different forms each year. Alonso had to run a sponsorless AM this year for instance. The RB still had all of the 2022 sponsors in place, but the suits were blanked. Much ado about nothing, but strange that they would go to the effort.  |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 9:34:17 AM EDT
[#16]
Toto’s former private assistant has left the FIA.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 9:53:28 AM EDT
[#17]
Danny Ric back at RBR as #3 confirmed
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Posted: 11/23/2022 9:55:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2022 10:55:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Toto’s former private assistant has left the FIA.
Isn't that the person speculated as to how the information that Red Bull exceeded the cost cap was leaked? |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 11:58:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't that the person speculated as to how the information that Red Bull exceeded the cost cap was leaked? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Toto’s former private assistant has left the FIA.
Isn't that the person speculated as to how the information that Red Bull exceeded the cost cap was leaked? Yep. Guessing that was RB’s price to not fight the ruling in arbitration (which would have aired all of the dirty laundry in discovery). |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 2:55:23 PM EDT
[#21]
This here took me over the edge! LMAO!
Especially the Gordon Ramsey, "Idiot Sandwich" reference. 
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This here took me over the edge! LMAO! Especially the Gordon Ramsey, "Idiot Sandwich" reference. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiISX2vaAAEn6IP?format=jpg&name=large I like the Nov 2021 Employee of the Month Goatifi!!! |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:07:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Danny Ric back at RBR as #3 confirmed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiQDHOkWQAQA3uQ?format=jpg&name=large My prediction. He’ll be back in the #2 car by the summer break. Ferrari and Mercedes will have a good off season and come out of the gate swinging, RB won’t be the run away dominant car like they were this year and Checo’s lack of talent will become a huge liability. Max is forced to fight both Ferrari and both Mercedes drivers on his own and Dr. Marko will say enough is enough, pack your shit Sergio. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:40:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My prediction. He’ll be back in the #2 car by the summer break. Ferrari and Mercedes will have a good off season and come out of the gate swinging, RB won’t be the run away dominant car like they were this year and Checo’s lack of talent will become a huge liability. Max is forced to fight both Ferrari and both Mercedes drivers on his own and Dr. Marko will say enough is enough, pack your shit Sergio. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Danny Ric back at RBR as #3 confirmed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiQDHOkWQAQA3uQ?format=jpg&name=large My prediction. He’ll be back in the #2 car by the summer break. Ferrari and Mercedes will have a good off season and come out of the gate swinging, RB won’t be the run away dominant car like they were this year and Checo’s lack of talent will become a huge liability. Max is forced to fight both Ferrari and both Mercedes drivers on his own and Dr. Marko will say enough is enough, pack your shit Sergio. If it is that bad, de Vries will get the call up before they bring in Ric full time. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:38:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it is that bad, de Vries will get the call up before they bring in Ric full time. Depends how he’s doing in the AT. This is a second insurance policy for Marko, stacking the deck as any good team does. Either way, if I’m Checo I’m not getting warm fuzzies from the move. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:48:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fun season this year fellas. See you in March! Quote HistoryQuoted: Fun season this year fellas. See you in March! Agreed. Sorry I wasn't posting as much the last month, been busy travelling for work, usually watching everything on replay while working. I hope 2023 is this interesting, but maybe a championship can come down to the last race or two. Quoted: Congrats to @davidrab for winning the inaugural F1 prediction survey challenge! Well done! Survey was an awesome idea, DCV! Quoted: Danny Ric back at RBR as #3 confirmed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiQDHOkWQAQA3uQ?format=jpg&name=large This warms my heart he'll still be around. I still think Daniel has a WDC in him, even if no one else sees it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:57:20 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Danny Ric back at RBR as #3 confirmed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiQDHOkWQAQA3uQ?format=jpg&name=large That’s just dumb. He’s a zero. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:04:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: This warms my heart he'll still be around. I still think Daniel has a WDC in him, even if no one else sees it. Quoted: That’s just dumb. He’s a zero. I see there are differing opinions on the man 
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Posted: 11/23/2022 7:54:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it is that bad, de Vries will get the call up before they bring in Ric full time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Danny Ric back at RBR as #3 confirmed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiQDHOkWQAQA3uQ?format=jpg&name=large My prediction. He’ll be back in the #2 car by the summer break. Ferrari and Mercedes will have a good off season and come out of the gate swinging, RB won’t be the run away dominant car like they were this year and Checo’s lack of talent will become a huge liability. Max is forced to fight both Ferrari and both Mercedes drivers on his own and Dr. Marko will say enough is enough, pack your shit Sergio. If it is that bad, de Vries will get the call up before they bring in Ric full time. RIC will get a lot of simulator time and face to face interaction with the engineers, he’d be a much easier mid season swap. Maybe Nyck is a total badass and gets the nod anyway. I don’t know who is going to be in that seat but if RB isn’t running away with it Checo is done. He’s dead weight, cost them the constructors in 2021 and couldn’t get the 1-2 finish this year. After the race in Brazil it’s pretty clear the buddy buddy relationship between Sergio and Max is a fake as the RB balance sheet. That begs the question “why keep Sergio, what does he have to offer?” |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 11:16:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RIC will get a lot of simulator time and face to face interaction with the engineers, he’d be a much easier mid season swap. Maybe Nyck is a total badass and gets the nod anyway. I don’t know who is going to be in that seat but if RB isn’t running away with it Checo is done. He’s dead weight, cost them the constructors in 2021 and couldn’t get the 1-2 finish this year. After the race in Brazil it’s pretty clear the buddy buddy relationship between Sergio and Max is a fake as the RB balance sheet. That begs the question “why keep Sergio, what does he have to offer?” Yep, and Max and Danny are close. I’m thinking what you’re thinking |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 12:55:28 PM EDT
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If Checo leaves his seat before the end of the 2023 season, RIC wont be in it.
Devries will.RIC will go to the AT. Que the "Big Lebowski" meme. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 3:39:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see there are differing opinions on the man I love Danny Ric. The guy is hilarious. I’m very happy he’s back at Red Bull. Him and Max are good friends, so this should make for some fun behind the scenes moments. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 7:45:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, and Max and Danny are close. I’m thinking what you’re thinking Being close when you’re not on the same team and racing each other is one thing. But, if Danny Ric would ever get to be Max’s teammate, he’d be treated no different than Perez. Max would expect to be let by if he were behind, and wouldn’t help Danny Ric at all. |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 2:58:18 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Being close when you’re not on the same team and racing each other is one thing. But, if Danny Ric would ever get to be Max’s teammate, he’d be treated no different than Perez. Max would expect to be let by if he were behind, and wouldn’t help Danny Ric at all. They’ve already been teammates. This is not an unknown scenario. |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 8:15:56 AM EDT
[#35]
Binotto to resign from at least Team principal function according to Italian media
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Posted: 11/25/2022 8:18:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2022 11:41:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Binotto to resign from at least Team principal function according to Italian media Thank God! |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 11:51:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’ve already been teammates. This is not an unknown scenario. And Danny Ric left the team arguably at his peak to avoid being #2 to Verstappen. My guess is that Danny now knows his place and it will be much more symbiotic in the twilight of his career. He should be a good #2 - but the question will still remain: Can he deliver the pace in a Redbull? Probably more than a F2 driver trying to acclimate. And Redbull is notoriously impatient with young drivers. Methinks this all leads to Danny Ric being back in the car for the second half of 2023. |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 12:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’ve already been teammates. This is not an unknown scenario. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Being close when you’re not on the same team and racing each other is one thing. But, if Danny Ric would ever get to be Max’s teammate, he’d be treated no different than Perez. Max would expect to be let by if he were behind, and wouldn’t help Danny Ric at all. They’ve already been teammates. This is not an unknown scenario. Seriously, no need for speculation, see 2016, 2017, 2018. If RIC were to get back into that seat I don’t think he’d have any illusions about who the #1 driver is or expect to be treated any differently than Checo is now as the #2. RIC has the potential to drive much, much better than Checo, that’s what he’d be bringing to the table. Even if getting Nyck in the RB is the ultimate goal I think a mid season swap would be less likely than putting RIC in to finish the season(if RIC has the pace, big if). I feel like RB has learned rapidly swapping drivers around doesn’t work out too often. Or maybe RB will be dominant again and they’ll keep the status quo RB will win #6 and max will be a triple world champion. |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 1:13:13 PM EDT
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They idea of Daniel being full time for Red Bull at any point in the future (barring tragedy or extended injury recovery) is a fantasy.
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Posted: 11/25/2022 6:18:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They idea of Daniel being full time for Red Bull at any point in the future (barring tragedy or extended injury recovery) is a fantasy. I agree. Ric will NOT be in a Red Bull when the lights go out unless Checo gets injured AND Devries is not "Ready" to be in the car. Ric is there to put time in the Sim. |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 6:50:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. Ric will NOT be in a Red Bull when the lights go out unless Checo gets injured AND Devries is not "Ready" to be in the car. Ric is there to put time in the Sim. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They idea of Daniel being full time for Red Bull at any point in the future (barring tragedy or extended injury recovery) is a fantasy. I agree. Ric will NOT be in a Red Bull when the lights go out unless Checo gets injured AND Devries is not "Ready" to be in the car. Ric is there to put time in the Sim. I doubt he really puts much time in the sim other than to keep/gain a general familiarity with the car. The position of sim driver has really changed over the last decade and they have trended toward ESports specialists. Below is an article on Rudy van Buren working as Max’s simulator driver back at the factory. https://the-race.com/formula-1/where-verstappen-sees-big-value-from-new-red-bull-f1-sim-driver/ Another below (published today) about an ESports kid becoming one of the official sim drivers. https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/sebastian-job-oracle-red-bull-racing-simulator-driver In short, there are general set up “workhorses” and there are specialists like van Buren that will be working on fine tuning options during the night between FP2 and FP3. The drivers do the sim tests primarily for correlation between the real car and the sim. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 10:17:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. Ric will NOT be in a Red Bull when the lights go out unless Checo gets injured AND Devries is not "Ready" to be in the car. Ric is there to put time in the Sim. And do promotional duties so Max doesn’t have to. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 9:45:10 PM EDT
[#44]
Is there a 2023 thread yet?
A search for ‘formula’ only brought up this thread 
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:11:59 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a 2023 thread yet? A search for ‘formula’ only brought up this thread I think its usually started New Year's Day... |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:14:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a 2023 thread yet? A search for ‘formula’ only brought up this thread I don't think the teams are done unpacking their stuff yet. |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 3:11:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/27/2022 3:35:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/27/2022 3:37:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryPretty good photoshop. |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 3:45:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThey're pretty good at giving LeClerc a beat down. |
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