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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:13:08 PM EDT
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9 minutes ago.

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Ukraine's drone program, which is crucial for maintaining an edge against Russia.  
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to local and remote command and control centres.

With Sky Mantis on its tether and field to command streaming, it is one of the most compact and capable systems on the market, and is battle-proven in recent conflicts.    
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:24:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:26:08 PM EDT
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• Turkish subcontractor Repkon is building infrastructure in Texas to produce some 30% of all US-made 155mm artillery shells by 2025,

• Turkish supplies of TNT, and nitroguanidine, which is used as a propellant, would be crucial in the production of NATO-standard 155mm caliber ammunition — potentially tripling production

— Bloomberg    
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:42:05 PM EDT
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Looks like fishing on private property in SE Louisiana
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:49:09 PM EDT
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Bradley repair.

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:51:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Billy_Ringo:


They didn't tell Ukraine to stop, just that the US doesn't support it.   Big difference.
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:
State Department. Of course. State Department is very interested in NOT defeating Russia, that is their goal. This brief exchange completely supports that perspective. Mark Miller is a dumbass. "We do not support or encourage Ukraine taking strikes outside its own territory."

Mr. Miller, follow-up question - do you mean that your position is that Ukraine should not win the war?


They didn't tell Ukraine to stop, just that the US doesn't support it.   Big difference.

The difference is that the US doesn't look like a complete idiot when some Foggy Bottom flunky tells a country not to do something and they do it anyway. The US can't afford that kind of cheap, easy loss. That's why State does many of the things they do: so as not to look like fools and idiots.

But avoiding the appearance of foolishness does not lead to achievements and positive outcomes, and sometimes leads to foolishness anyway.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:58:19 PM EDT
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They’re going to try to take back Kharkiv.

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 4:12:52 PM EDT
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The Russian people don’t matter one bit.  The only thing that matters is what a handful of evil men are prepared to do.
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Originally Posted By Capta:

I’ll be the devil’s advocate on this as usual.
Russia doesn’t need to be able to objectively succeed at conquering the Baltics with conventional forces to try, particularly if nukes are brought into the equation.
There were a couple of videos put out by Ukraine the Latest recently where a couple of Russia experts affirmed that Russia had “basically zero chance of succeeding conventionally in the Baltics now, especially with NATO’s increased posture in the Baltics and Russia’s heavy losses.”  However, they caveated that with a couple of factors, (paraphrasing) “western leadership does not understand and is having to re-learn that Russia only respects force,” and that “a newer, hungry cadre of Russian Generals is taking over their Army who have no experience with the west and don’t understand it.”  They also said that “this mutual misunderstanding, combined with the idea that they believed Russian behavior was becoming increasingly irrational, left the way open for accidents.”
If you look at the missile track over Poland (assuming it’s accurate) one missile took a detour over Poland for no other reason than to fly over Poland.  Clearly this is a provocation and a test, and I think Russian decision makers can be forgiven for thinking NATO has failed this test, as it has failed the test throughout the war with probably dozens of other similar incidents  The Russians are also probably looking at our response to the Houthis, a problem which is entirely possible they instigated to watch our response.  Whether NATO actions result from an intent to sucker Russia in further, or are well-intentioned but overly bureaucratic inertia, or are feckless cowardice, they will be taken by Russian decision-makers in the manner that confirms what they want to see.  It doesn’t matter if this would actually translate to unwillingness to defend NATO territory or honor article 5, it only matters that the Russians could convince themselves it would.
Russia is run by sick, evil, increasingly (IMO) desperate men. They have fairly successfully put on a face of normalcy, which IMO hides a dire situation inside.  Russia has always been extraordinarily insular and opaque to the West.  We made a better effort to understand and counter them during the Cold War, but that knowledge has perished, and in the last 30 years we’ve returned to the idea that “they’re a European country and they must think just like us.”  They are not.
Perun’s video on Russian military export sales really identified how bad Russia’s DIB situation was already and was going to be in the future.  Their orders have dropped to near zero, their next-gen kit are already failures which they can’t produce, and they have no money or tech exchange for development.  At they same time, the west was already qualitatively light-years ahead of them, and Ukraine has (belatedly) spurred remilitarization and procurement in NATO that they can’t possibly match.   Yes, they are pumping out refurbed T72s and 152mm ammo, but they are catastrophically fucked when it comes to matching up going forward.  The key point that we have to consider is what the Russian leadership perceives about the balance of conventional power in the future. Our Western assumption is that, obviously, they’ll understand the situation and decide that their only choice is to reach an accommodation.  This is dead wrong.
I also think it’s wrong to assume that the only priority of Russian leadership is retaining their power and perks.  They may be totally corrupt by our standards, but this doesn’t exclude ideology as a motivation, as we often assume it does.  Putin is near the end of his life.  At this point I’m comfortable with saying his motivation is near 100% ideological. The people who would likely replace him, hardcore FSB men, may also be rich as fuck, but they’ve also spent their lives plotting to advance the Russian Empire and destroy the west.  It’s a huge mistake to not credit Russian leadership with the ideology they are clearly taking action to implement.  Hitler and the Nazi party were corrupt as hell too.  Did that stop them or mean they’d act “reasonably” to preserve their power and perks?
I’ve repeatedly compared the war by Russia to Japan in WW2.  It doesn’t have to be possible to win in order to try.  One of Japan’s rationales for war in 1941 was that, given the collapse of naval building treaties and what they knew perfectly well about overwhelming US productive superiority, they had no choice but to act now or never.
I believe the Russians will convince themselves the conventional balance of power will only get worse for them, and they can’t wait any longer and will have to go with whatever they can scrape together as soon as they can, probably behind nuke threats or nuke use.  It doesn’t have to be sane, it only has to look sane to evil, desperate men.
My opinion is and has been that a combination of incompetence, corruption, high-level losses, and most importantly, high stress on their system in multiple ways has probably rendered Russian leadership incapable of making sound strategic decisions.
NATO needs to consider anything and everything as possible.
With nukes on the table somewhere short of a full exchange, what can Russia do conventionally right now?
With nukes on the table, what can Russia do after a short pause/freeze in the conflict in Ukraine to withdraw all the forces they can and reposition them, leaving the Ukrainian front guarded by a skeleton crew of infantry only?

Those guys in russia have a very good idea at this point their stuff doesn't work worth a shit, their front line troops couldn't take control of much of anything that wasn't given to them by treason. They don't want to die any more than anyone else. They can just hope at this point the west gets tired of supporting Ukraine and they can escape with what they hold when it happens. When shit gets back to old fashioned commie levels because of sanctions and the war bleeding them dry, all the people who had a taste of western life will eventually have enough. Word is getting out back home to all the poor nations sending folks to work in russia that they will end up dead in the war, so they are going to have to get those bodies closer to the areas with toilets and tv and internet. There is a tipping point in russia as well, and shaking their nukes is hollow threats. If I were Poland, I would send them a picture something like this.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/242375/cat_nuts_jpg-3170412.JPG

The Russian people don’t matter one bit.  The only thing that matters is what a handful of evil men are prepared to do.


Yeah, while that picture is fucking hilarious, the russians would say, Da, I am fine, no injuries. And I won fight, because cat is dead.

Fuck russians and russia.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 4:22:50 PM EDT
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"High-explosive projectile, not KAB": how did Russia hit Kharkiv on March 27 - information from the prosecutor's office

03/27/2024 - 6:20 p.m
On March 27, around 3:50 p.m., the Russian occupation army struck Kharkiv with two planning munitions, which had not been used in the city before.

Prosecutor of Kharkiv region Oleksandr Filchakov told journalists about this .

"The war has been going on for more than two years, of course they use different weapons, different ammunition. Of course, [this type of ammunition] is cheaper. The cost of the rocket is more than a million dollars. This is not KAB," he clarified.

We are talking about two UMPB D-30 (unified cross-species planing ammunition, caliber 30 cm), which, most likely, were fired from the plane.

"The rupture is insignificant, it is a high-explosive projectile. A civilian died from the debris. As for KAB, the destructive effect is much greater," added Filchakov.
In terms of the force of the impact, it can be roughly compared with the shelling of Kharkiv in the spring of 2022, the prosecutor agreed.


At the same time, according to Oleg Sinegubov , the head of the Kharkiv OVA , the UMPB D-30 is a cross between an aerial bomb and a missile

"A 30 cm caliber ammunition can fly at a distance of up to 90 km. They are used both from the plane and from the Smerch anti-aircraft missile system. The final information will be given after the examination," Synegubov said.

According to preliminary data from the prosecutor's office, in addition to one dead man, 18 people, including children, were injured.

https://mediaport.ua/fuhasnyy-snaryad-ne-kab-chym-rosiya-vdaryla-po-kharkovu-27-bereznya-informatsiya-prokuratury

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 4:32:44 PM EDT
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Wow.
That’s a proper shelling.



Alleged to be a view from the street


LOL

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 4:34:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
"High-explosive projectile, not KAB": how did Russia hit Kharkiv on March 27 - information from the prosecutor's office

03/27/2024 - 6:20 p.m
On March 27, around 3:50 p.m., the Russian occupation army struck Kharkiv with two planning munitions, which had not been used in the city before.

Prosecutor of Kharkiv region Oleksandr Filchakov told journalists about this .

"The war has been going on for more than two years, of course they use different weapons, different ammunition. Of course, [this type of ammunition] is cheaper. The cost of the rocket is more than a million dollars. This is not KAB," he clarified.

We are talking about two UMPB D-30 (unified cross-species planing ammunition, caliber 30 cm), which, most likely, were fired from the plane.

"The rupture is insignificant, it is a high-explosive projectile. A civilian died from the debris. As for KAB, the destructive effect is much greater," added Filchakov.
In terms of the force of the impact, it can be roughly compared with the shelling of Kharkiv in the spring of 2022, the prosecutor agreed.


At the same time, according to Oleg Sinegubov , the head of the Kharkiv OVA , the UMPB D-30 is a cross between an aerial bomb and a missile

"A 30 cm caliber ammunition can fly at a distance of up to 90 km. They are used both from the plane and from the Smerch anti-aircraft missile system. The final information will be given after the examination," Synegubov said.

According to preliminary data from the prosecutor's office, in addition to one dead man, 18 people, including children, were injured.

https://mediaport.ua/fuhasnyy-snaryad-ne-kab-chym-rosiya-vdaryla-po-kharkovu-27-bereznya-informatsiya-prokuratury

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Hmm air launched gmlrs...
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https://www.twz.com/air/russian-small-diameter-bomb-like-glide-weapon-appears-in-ukraine
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To be fair, State has a lot of experience losing wars; snatching strategic defeat from the jaws of military victory is kind of their thing!
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The highly secret Russian hypersonic missiles 3M22 Zirkon cannot hit targets as designed, the chief of Kyiv-based Institute of Criminology Court Expertise Andriy Kulchitsky said on Ukrainian "Suspilne" TV today. Days ago, Ukrainian air defenses shot down two of them over Kyiv City and obtained large parts for analysis.

"This missile is unable to do what it is designed for. All its load and statements about its "super" and "hyper" characteristics are just words. In fact, it still needs a lot of work. The Zirkon doesn't fly where it should and doesn't do what it's designed for," Kulchitsky said.

According to the expert, the anti-ship Zirkon is equipped with a small 40 kg warhead and can't be as dangerous as Russian cruise missiles X-101 or X-22.

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I am surprised that someone hasn't come up with a "Home on JAM" mini drone yet to ID and target electronic Jammers.   I know we have big expensive systems that can do that but something like a small Jam killer drone would be very useful on the battlefield.
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I am surprised that someone hasn't come up with a "Home on JAM" mini drone yet to ID and target electronic Jammers.   I know we have big expensive systems that can do that but something like a small Jam killer drone would be very useful on the battlefield.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJsubGEWgAAwGur?format=jpg&name=900x900
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I am surprised that someone hasn't come up with a "Home on JAM" mini drone yet to ID and target electronic Jammers.   I know we have big expensive systems that can do that but something like a small Jam killer drone would be very useful on the battlefield.


Me too actually, even more expensive longer range drones like Harpy I thought they would have created an equivalent by now to wreck Russian radars.

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:05:34 PM EDT
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They’re going to try to take back Kharkiv.
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJsbBEQW8AAJXrV?format=jpg&name=900x900

Source channel
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They’re going to try to take back Kharkiv.

How's that mobilization coming, Kyiv? C'mon, get it together.
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Maybe a good use for some ATACMS...
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:10:49 PM EDT
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there it is

"historical justice"
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:16:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


This is very interesting.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJkEyCNbIAA7TbW?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

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i would like to know who was in it. seems odd to bring it all the way to the front. then just hand it over to a couple of privates to joy ride around in.
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there it is

"historical justice"
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Originally Posted By Prime:



there it is

"historical justice"


So, when are they giving the Kurli Islands back to Japan?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:45:20 PM EDT
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So, when are they giving the Kurli Islands back to Japan?
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there it is

"historical justice"


So, when are they giving the Kurli Islands back to Japan?

Also, when are they giving Kaliningrad back to Germany and Karelia back to Finland?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:04:44 PM EDT
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Also, when are they giving Kaliningrad back to Germany and Karelia back to Finland?
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It all started in 822.
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:

So, when are they giving the Kurli Islands back to Japan?
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Originally Posted By doc540:
Originally Posted By Prime:

there it is

"historical justice"

So, when are they giving the Kurli Islands back to Japan?

The Russians did not sign the San Francisco Treaty, and the treaty didn't specify that Russia would get the Kurils anyway. Since the US had an occupation government, the US could have occupied Iturup, Kunashir, Habomai, and Shikotan, and nobody would have blinked an eye. Stalin might have grumbled, but they had a chance to sign the treaty and did not. This would have saved everybody a bunch of grief later.

But yes, under the "historical lands" argument, Russia should relinquish those islands. Russia won't agree to it. The only way for Japan to get the islands is through force, which Japan cannot constitutionally do.

The "historical lands" argument applies to Kaliningrad too. Historical justice requires that Germany & Poland reoccupy Kaliningrad and expel anyone who wants to be governed by Russia. That's why it's such a stupid argument to make.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:18:23 PM EDT
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i would like to know who was in it. seems odd to bring it all the way to the front. then just hand it over to a couple of privates to joy ride around in.
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


This is very interesting.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJkEyCNbIAA7TbW?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

 if true.


i would like to know who was in it. seems odd to bring it all the way to the front. then just hand it over to a couple of privates to joy ride around in.


Yeah, but there's another question. What is so important at the frontlines that a VIP would make himself a target?

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Yeah, but there's another question. What is so important at the frontlines that a VIP would make himself a target?

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I doubt it was anything more than cleaning out shit in storage. They only made 6.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJoLQvhXMAEIZUX?format=jpg&name=large

https://hajun.info/reports/military-activity-on-the-territory-of-belarus-on-march-18-24/
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Originally Posted By Capta:
Following up my earlier wall of text post, I became interested in thinking out what a near-term Russian attack on NATO could look like.

-Stage “unrest” in Belarus.
-Move vehicle and equipment assets out of Ukraine (hold with infantry alone) and into Belarus to put down the “unrest”
-Then attack straight across Lithuania to the Baltic as rapidly as possible at any cost.
-Simultaneously, threaten to nuke every Finnish city if they mobilize their reserve Army, and be willing to make a demonstration shot.  The Finnish army is probably their most insoluble problem.  Radical action could take 200,000 NATO troops out of the equation in a critical sector before they ever became a factor.
-Attack and occupy Gotland Island before it can be defended, use it to directly threaten Sweden.
-These two actions secure the northern flank.
-Blockade the Baltics while they grind them to a pulp, threaten nuclear armageddon.  Say that the Baltics never existed and a contiguous part of Russia has simply been returned to Russia.

The Suwaki gap isn’t large, and there’s no strategic depth.  I think the Russians have the forces right now, taking into account units in Ukraine, to do it.
All they really need is the will to threaten nuclear war and to actually do it if called.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJoLQvhXMAEIZUX?format=jpg&name=large

https://hajun.info/reports/military-activity-on-the-territory-of-belarus-on-march-18-24/



"We're already in WW3" has been a line I have seen used here and there in this thread.  However, I disagree that WW3 is going on right now.  

I believe that the scenario Capta outlined definitely *would* qualify as WW3, though.
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Germany indicts five people for supporting illegal turbine sales to Crimea
March 27th, 2024 at 5:04 pm CEST



The Hamburg public prosecutor's office has indicted four Germans and one Swiss-Frenchman for allegedly helping to export Siemens gas turbines to the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, which has been annexed by Russia. This was said by a spokesman for the public prosecutor's office on Wednesday.

According to the indictment, first reported by Wirtschaftswoche magazine, when the five helped export the turbines, worth 111 million euros ($120.11 million), from Hamburg to St. Petersburg, they knew that their final destination would be two power plants in Crimea.

A Siemens spokesperson said the company continues to support authorities in their investigations, as it has done since the case first came to light in 2016. One of the suspects is still working for the company, the spokesperson added, and all five deny the allegations.

Western companies are prohibited from selling to Crimea, the annexation of which in 2014 is not recognized by any major government.

The business unit in question is now Siemens Energy, which was spun off from Siemens in 2020. Siemens continues to hold a minority stake.

A spokesperson for Siemens Energy said the company is also cooperating with investigators.

https://ch.marketscreener.com/kurs/aktie/SIEMENS-AG-56358595/news/Deutschland-klagt-funf-Personen-wegen-Unterstutzung-illegaler-Turbinenverkaufe-auf-die-Krim-an-46301832/

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***INVESTIGATION DEPARTMENT
Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation
for the Sakhalin Region


Two foreigners were convicted of creating an extremist organization in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk
Today 08:11



The evidence collected by the Second Department for the Investigation of Particularly Important Cases of the Investigative Department of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for the Sakhalin Region was recognized by the court as sufficient to convict foreign citizens of committing a crime under Parts 1 and 2 of Article 282.2 of the Criminal Code of Russia (organizing the activities of an extremist organization and participating in it).

The criminal case was initiated on the basis of materials provided by the operational services of the FSB of Russia in the Sakhalin Region.

The preliminary investigation and the court established that in the territory of the Sakhalin Region, the accused, having authority among his fellow countrymen and labor migrants, created in 2022 a cell of an international extremist religious organization, the activities of which are banned on the territory of the Russian Federation.

Possessing leadership skills and authority, the convict attracted a newcomer from among labor migrants to the activities of this organization. Subsequently, in order to attract new persons to participate in the illegal association, these persons carried out active explanatory and propaganda activities among their entourage, by organizing conspiratorial meetings and distributing specialized literature.

The criminal activities of the attackers were suppressed by officers of the FSB of Russia in the Sakhalin Region in February 2023.

By the verdict of the court, the organizer of the extremist cell was sentenced to imprisonment for a period of six years, the participant was sentenced to 2 years and 6 months in prison.

The sentence has entered into legal force.

https://sakh.sledcom.ru/news/item/1871293/

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How do people use these two-story setups when even the stock irons are too tall for a proper cheek weld for me without an adjustable cheekpiece ?
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Yeah but holy crap I’d want a magnified optic to scan for targets.
After all the footage I’ve watched I think ACOG/piggyback RDS is the best optic solution.  But I also think that you need irons on the rifle because there are conditions that will make an optic useless.
My new build has ACOG/piggyback RMR/Dueck offset irons.

How do people use these two-story setups when even the stock irons are too tall for a proper cheek weld for me without an adjustable cheekpiece ?


I plop my chin against the stock with my head mostly upright, so my eye is by the red dot. Then if needed I smush low to use the magnified optic.

The reverse -starting low and going high - I found more jarring.

However I am at best a mediocre rifleman so this should not be considered anything close to expert advice.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

I agree with this.
I'm using an LPVO in 2 and 3 gun but I have doubts that even the best LPVO would survive a week of an industrial scale conflict like this. Falling, jumping from tanks and trucks, cramming into the back of a HMMV with 8 guys and gear, explosions, flooded trenches, frost and ice in the AM, sweltering heat in the PM, crawling through mud...I think only an ACOG could survive.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:


Certainly a ACOG/RMR or RDS+Irons+3x magnifier would be preferable.

But I think we are seeing that our focus/obsession with optics and the latest weapons accessories - so central to our view of modern rifle fighting from the GWOT - isn't really as relevant to this war, and perhaps other HIC in the future.

Hand grenades, and FA rifle fights at hand grenade range, seem to be much more important. Basically the antithesis of the current NGSW program...

I'd also say as a GWOT aside, we're lucky the AK74 never caught on in the middle east. Probably would have had a much higher hit probability in addition to nastier wounding.

I agree with this.
I'm using an LPVO in 2 and 3 gun but I have doubts that even the best LPVO would survive a week of an industrial scale conflict like this. Falling, jumping from tanks and trucks, cramming into the back of a HMMV with 8 guys and gear, explosions, flooded trenches, frost and ice in the AM, sweltering heat in the PM, crawling through mud...I think only an ACOG could survive.


Yeah I think it would need to be like VCOG style tank LPVO.

In terms of ACOG, the heavy level of mud makes me think clear lens protectors would be crucial.

https://armament.com/acog-4x32-flip-cover-clear-see-through-with-adapter-ring-ag1c00-ccr/
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https://t.me/motopatriot/20995

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJrZYU1bEAAmYpd?format=png&name=small

Yeah, that's how you lose wars.
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The US is incapable of winning wars.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
This could be an opportunity to secure another extra 30 F-16 Block 30's for Ukraine in the future.  They are already flyable, just need some updates and work for getting them ready like the European contribution of F-16's.  This could put the total contribution to about 90 F-16's then for Ukraine.

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Mirage 2000-5 is also a capable plane. Maybe they meant their older Mirage 2000s which are slated for retirement. But they could be trying to retire the entire fleet. I doubt Greece will donate either type, but European countries can pitch in and purchase the Block 30 F-16s. France can send their recently retired Mirage 2000C as can Greece, and start training pilots.
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