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6/7/2004 5:12:52 AM EDT


I've been looking to buy a new car for sometime now and I just can't stop thinking about the 300C.  I love the way it looks, its got the 5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.   I think Nascar banned the 300's from racing cause they were eating up the comp.  Anyway I hear now that Chrysler is coming up with a 6.1 Liter 400+ engine.

Factory set at 345 HP, but I think with a little tuning we can crank it up to 400 hp.

For a fully loaded car at $35,000, I don't think theres too much out there to compare to it right now.  Apparently Toyota is reving up its Avalon to contend with this MOPAR beauty!


Here's some smoke in your eye!

superdave3692.home.comcast.net/300cdrifting.wmv
6/7/2004 5:15:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Paying $35k for a performance car is like paying $25.00 for a bottle of wine, what you have in the end was an expensive bottle of $3.00 wine.
6/7/2004 5:46:18 AM EDT
[#2]
I used to think they were really ugly cars, but I think they are growing on me.
6/7/2004 5:53:31 AM EDT
[#3]
I like them but I work at the plant where they make the Mercedes trannies that go in them. The big Hemi is for trucks only the first year probably. Being a rear wheel drive with traction control and FAST I think the LEO comunity will be slobbering all over for these things.
6/7/2004 6:11:25 AM EDT
[#4]

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5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.   I think Nascar banned the 300's from racing cause they were eating up the comp.  Anyway I hear now that Chrysler is coming up with a 6.1 Liter 400+ engine.

Factory set at 345 HP, but I think with a little tuning we can crank it up to 400 hp.



Don't complain when gasoline hits $5 a gallon.
6/7/2004 6:13:36 AM EDT
[#5]

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5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.   I think Nascar banned the 300's from racing cause they were eating up the comp.  Anyway I hear now that Chrysler is coming up with a 6.1 Liter 400+ engine.

Factory set at 345 HP, but I think with a little tuning we can crank it up to 400 hp.



Don't complain when gasoline hits $5 a gallon.




30 MPG Highway
24 City

Not bad, huh!
6/7/2004 6:17:26 AM EDT
[#6]

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5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.   I think Nascar banned the 300's from racing cause they were eating up the comp.  Anyway I hear now that Chrysler is coming up with a 6.1 Liter 400+ engine.

Factory set at 345 HP, but I think with a little tuning we can crank it up to 400 hp.



Don't complain when gasoline hits $5 a gallon.




30 MPG Highway
24 City

Not bad, huh!




More like not realistic, huh?


With a big engine like that, you're going to want to put your foot down every once in a while. When you do, your milage will plummet.
6/7/2004 6:33:15 AM EDT
[#7]
I would not but a chrysler/dodge ANYTHING after the problem I have seen my fellow co-workers have with them.

"Hemi" nowadays means nothing.  
6/7/2004 6:44:34 AM EDT
[#8]

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5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.   I think Nascar banned the 300's from racing cause they were eating up the comp.  Anyway I hear now that Chrysler is coming up with a 6.1 Liter 400+ engine.

Factory set at 345 HP, but I think with a little tuning we can crank it up to 400 hp.



Don't complain when gasoline hits $5 a gallon.




30 MPG Highway
24 City

Not bad, huh!




More like not realistic, huh?


With a big engine like that, you're going to want to put your foot down every once in a while. When you do, your milage will plummet.




Your right! I do have a heavy foot. I guess Weightwatchers is on the menu tonight.
6/7/2004 6:46:23 AM EDT
[#9]

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 I love the way it looks, its got the 5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.  



This is the funniest thing I read all morning.

SGatr15
6/7/2004 6:50:51 AM EDT
[#10]

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I would not but a chrysler/dodge ANYTHING after the problem I have seen my fellow co-workers have with them.

"Hemi" nowadays means nothing.  




I had an 1984 Dodge Aries K  and it survived 10 years with no major problems.  I put 180K miles on it.

6/7/2004 6:57:20 AM EDT
[#11]

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I would not but a chrysler/dodge ANYTHING after the problem I have seen my fellow co-workers have with them.

"Hemi" nowadays means nothing.  


Do you have a quarter????
6/7/2004 6:57:25 AM EDT
[#12]

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I would not but a chrysler/dodge ANYTHING after the problem I have seen my fellow co-workers have with them.

"Hemi" nowadays means nothing.  




I had an 1984 Dodge Aries K  and it survived 10 years with no major problems.  I put 180K miles on it.




That's because the Aries had a Mitsubishi drivetrain.
6/7/2004 6:57:44 AM EDT
[#13]

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 I love the way it looks, its got the 5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.  



This is the funniest thing I read all morning.

SGatr15



I believe that was the 426 Hemi, not the 360 (5.7L) hemi.

ktm500
6/7/2004 7:02:31 AM EDT
[#14]

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 I love the way it looks, its got the 5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.  



This is the funniest thing I read all morning.

SGatr15



I believe that was the 426 Hemi, not the 360 (5.7L) hemi.

ktm500



It's 345cid not 360
6/7/2004 7:04:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Just wait until you see cars that look just like that badged "Enforcer".

Guess who else is getting a Hemi!!
6/7/2004 7:04:47 AM EDT
[#16]
340 !     And none of the competition can touch them. It's good to see  MOPAR  back on top & kicking ass !

Back in the day, every 340 that left the factory was H.O.
6/7/2004 7:06:43 AM EDT
[#17]

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 I love the way it looks, its got the 5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.  



This is the funniest thing I read all morning.

SGatr15



I believe that was the 426 Hemi, not the 360 (5.7L) hemi.

ktm500



Well, Richard Petty I ain't, but that 5.7L is enough for me.   And, I should know better than to leave myself open like that with all you guys!    

6/7/2004 7:18:49 AM EDT
[#18]
61 ci/liter. 5.7 L x 61 ci = 347.7ci. Its a considered a 350, the same as the GMs former 350-5700-5.7L.
6/7/2004 7:19:37 AM EDT
[#19]

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 I love the way it looks, its got the 5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.  



This is the funniest thing I read all morning.

SGatr15



I believe that was the 426 Hemi, not the 360 (5.7L) hemi.

ktm500





Well, Richard Petty I ain't, but that 5.7L is enough for me.   And, I should know better than to leave myself open like that with all you guys!    





You have great taste & BTW the 360 is a 5.9


You were talking about the 340 & I knew it !!!!!!  
6/7/2004 7:30:06 AM EDT
[#20]
- oh sorry- had a K- Kar too... thing would not die despite all attempts.
6/7/2004 7:42:44 AM EDT
[#21]

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61 ci/liter. 5.7 L x 61 ci = 347.7ci. Its a considered a 350, the same as the GMs former 350-5700-5.7L.



the correct formula is pi x (bore/2) squared x stroke.

bore x stroke =  3.92x3.58 "

1/2(bore 3.92) = 1.96(squared)= 3.8416 = times pi = 12.0687 times stroke = 43.2 times 8 cylinders = 345.6 cubic inches displacement.

one liter = 61.0237441 cubic inches

345.6/61.0237441 = 5.66L displacement


6/7/2004 7:51:50 AM EDT
[#22]
I honestly think its an over hyped stylistic rip off of a bentley and a rolls.  

and by the way, if you really want to nit pick, every honda on the road is a HEMI as well!  hate to burst your bubble.
6/7/2004 7:57:33 AM EDT
[#23]

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- oh sorry- had a K- Kar too... thing would not die despite all attempts.



I had a 89 Plymouth Acclaim.  Damn thing got 220k miles on it and it just kept going.  I rarely changed the fluids and only did basic maintance on it.  I gave it away to a neighbor and his daughter is now driving it.

Thing is STILL running!!

Sgatr15
6/7/2004 7:58:40 AM EDT
[#24]

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Paying $35k for a performance car is like paying $25.00 for a bottle of wine, what you have in the end was an expensive bottle of $3.00 wine.



So...it's kind of like wasting a bunch of money on a bathroom when you can just shit in a can?

What do you drive Hielo?  A Yugo?

Sgatr15
6/7/2004 8:04:08 AM EDT
[#25]
never even changed the fluids in the k- car... it leaked enough to keep it fresh....
6/7/2004 8:10:23 AM EDT
[#26]
Hemi: (HEM -e) adj. Mopar in type, V8, hot tempered, native to the United States, carnivorous, eats primarily Mustangs, Camaros, and Corvettes. Also enjoys smoking a good import now and then to relax.
6/7/2004 8:13:42 AM EDT
[#27]

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Hemi: (HEM -e) adj. Mopar in type, V8, hot tempered, native to the United States, carnivorous, eats primarily Mustangs, Camaros, and Corvettes. Also enjoys smoking a good import now and then to relax.



oh, you mean the 60's ones, ok.

because we put one of the UBER-hemi 5.7 rams on the dyno a couple weeks ago, and it came in at about 230hp.  and you cant tell me that it was all driveline loss.  and boy the owner was pissed too.
6/7/2004 9:23:27 AM EDT
[#28]

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Hemi: (HEM -e) adj. Mopar in type, V8, hot tempered, native to the United States, carnivorous, eats primarily Mustangs, Camaros, and Corvettes. Also enjoys smoking a good import now and then to relax.



oh, you mean the 60's ones, ok.

because we put one of the UBER-hemi 5.7 rams on the dyno a couple weeks ago, and it came in at about 230hp.  and you cant tell me that it was all driveline loss.  and boy the owner was pissed too.



Those were the years.


I 'd sure be pissed too!  Did you guys hook the computer up to it and optimize the settings?  I've heard the factory tends to de-tune the motors.  I've seen mechanics tune up the engine by adjusting the computers factory settings  and were able to get 30 to 40 extra ponies just by doing this.  

There are other ways to boost HP, but then you get into replacing parts and belts etc.


Interesting tid-bit about the Honda's you mentioned earlier.  The Honda's combustion chamber isn't wedge shaped like in most car motors?  


6/7/2004 9:29:01 AM EDT
[#29]
I test drove a 300C with the Hemi.

It is one hell of a car, the salesman told me, "Don't worry about letting it run"
So I ran it up over 100 and it got there in no time flat.  Nice smooth ride, quiet inside, great styling, whats not to like?

I think Chrysler will sell the hell out of this car.  $35,000 for the performance of this car is nothing...it should be selling for more.

6/7/2004 9:29:41 AM EDT
[#30]

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Hemi: (HEM -e) adj. Mopar in type, V8, hot tempered, native to the United States, carnivorous, eats primarily Mustangs, Camaros, and Corvettes. Also enjoys smoking a good import now and then to relax.



oh, you mean the 60's ones, ok.

because we put one of the UBER-hemi 5.7 rams on the dyno a couple weeks ago, and it came in at about 230hp.  and you cant tell me that it was all driveline loss.  and boy the owner was pissed too.



Those were the years.


I 'd sure be pissed too!  Did you guys hook the computer up to it and optimize the settings?  I've heard the factory tends to de-tune the motors.  I've seen mechanics tune up the engine by adjusting the computer factor settings  and were able to get 30 to 40 extra ponies just by doing this.  

There are other ways to boost HP, but then you get into replacing parts and belts etc.



he was in for a baseline run and later that day he started in on a custom powerdyne supercharger setup intercooled and everything.  rumor has it that he's putting 450 to the wheels on mid grade fuel now.  
and playing with the computer gives you some power but I havent seen 40 on a factory engine yet.  all you can really do is richen the mixture and advance spark timing a tad.  usually 15 to the wheels is what I've seen.  
6/7/2004 9:30:32 AM EDT
[#31]

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I honestly think its an over hyped stylistic rip off of a bentley and a rolls.

 
Now that you mention it, it does!


and by the way, if you really want to nit pick, every honda on the road is a HEMI as well!  hate to burst your bubble.
The magic of marketing!
6/7/2004 9:39:08 AM EDT
[#32]

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I honestly think its an over hyped stylistic rip off of a bentley and a rolls.

 
Now that you mention it, it does!


and by the way, if you really want to nit pick, every honda on the road is a HEMI as well!  hate to burst your bubble.
The magic of marketing!





To me it looks like a rip off of a BMW 7 series, but then the front of the 300C DOES looks like a Bently.


Guess i'll be traveling with power AND style.
6/7/2004 9:42:13 AM EDT
[#33]
I chime in about cars every now and then, as we rent them out in my line of work.
We have 5 300C's and they rent for about $100/day right now.  We rarely ever have one available and don't take reservations for them.  When people bring them back, THEY THANK US for letting them drive that car!  Last week a regular customer brought me back a present for talking him into it.  Said he wasn't used to getting thumb's up from other drivers while he was in rental cars.

As for driving it, they chirp the tires when shifting to 2nd gear in automatic, with traction control on.  I wouldn't be shocked if they do it into 3rd if you use the manual electronic shift mode.  Thr traction control works very, very well.  I took a corner at 45, with the pedal to the floor, and felt it trying to slip, but the computer wouldn't let it.  they are quite an experience to drive.

I am not a car enthusiast, per se..., but I am a 300C enthusiast.  And I might be getting one for a company car in about 6 months.  heh, heh.
6/7/2004 9:43:25 AM EDT
[#34]

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Paying $35k for a performance car is like paying $25.00 for a bottle of wine, what you have in the end was an expensive bottle of $3.00 wine.



Okay.

We can't all afford a friggen' "real" performance car. And yes, I do know the difference. Most of us here will never be able to afford one. Not in addition to mortgages and retirement planning and everything else that comes with everyday life. Hell, lots of people can't afford gas and groceries. So we make do with our inferior attempts at happiness. Please don't shit on us peons anymore. It's getting old.

Or do I misunderstand your intent?

6/7/2004 9:44:05 AM EDT
[#35]
"..should be charging more....

uhhhh just because a car has an engine that actually produces decnt power it should be expensive?

that car and otheres like it should be about 25k  there is no reason to make it so expensive because of its power/rear wheel drive hype
6/7/2004 9:57:26 AM EDT
[#36]
I rented one in Oakland, CA over the weekend.

The car got a lot of looks.  Homiez were flashing gang signs at me, and almost every comment contained the word "pimp" - pimpmobile, pimp wagon, pimped-out car, pimp daddy, etc.

Good points - Handles very well, quiet, comfortable ride.  Good stereo.  The car I drove had the 2.7 liter V-6 which was sluggish but I was never seriously wanting for power.  The V-8 would make it a great drive.

Bad points - Lots of glare on the rear window, so wear polaroid shades.  Doors are too high to comfortably hand your arm over them for the "farmer's tan" unless you are built like a basketball player.
6/7/2004 10:18:35 AM EDT
[#37]

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Hemi: (HEM -e) adj. Mopar in type, V8, hot tempered, native to the United States, carnivorous, eats primarily Mustangs, Camaros, and Corvettes. Also enjoys smoking a good import now and then to relax.



oh, you mean the 60's ones, ok.

because we put one of the UBER-hemi 5.7 rams on the dyno a couple weeks ago, and it came in at about 230hp.  and you cant tell me that it was all driveline loss.  and boy the owner was pissed too.



Was the truck 2wd, 4wd?

Yes, that kind of loss isn't unexpected. Partly because of any 2wd/4wd linkage (if it exists)...also because a lot of it depends on the PCM. Remember, the new hemi's are all drive-by-wire. There's no cable between the gas pedal and the motor; it runs to the computer.

Before doing any dyno testing, the driver of the vehicle should reset the PCM. As the PCM tries to "learn" about the driver for the first 500 miles..and after that, it adjusts settings and tunings for that driver. I've read stories about how guys, when they first got the truck, could smoke their tires up until 3rd gear if they punched it at a light...and once they passed the 550 or so mile mark, the truck suddenly lost a lot of it's power. They reset the PCM, and viola...power lost is found. For another 500 or so miles.

There's a bunch of mods people can do on 2003 Hemis...but not much that really can be done on 2004's. Airboxes? The factory airbox is apparently as close to perfect as most aftermarket makers can make it; most of the major names aren't even bothering coming up with a new air system. Exhaust...same there. People are putting Borla catbacks and such on, but it's not so much to increase performance, but to sound better.

EVERYONE is waiting for Hypertech to come out with their PCM programmer. It's been delayed like 5 times already...but that appears to be the magic pill that is supposed to really wake the hemi up.
6/7/2004 10:22:25 AM EDT
[#38]
They are baddd motherfuckers.  Hard to get one right now and I work at a huge Chrsysler, Jeep, Dodge dealership.

Im a big Toyota fan and never thought that Chrysler would make a passenger car worth a shit.  Drive a 300c or a Dodge Magnum RT and your mind will be changed.
6/7/2004 10:33:52 AM EDT
[#39]

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I rented one in Oakland, CA over the weekend.

The car got a lot of looks.  Homiez were flashing gang signs at me, and almost every comment contained the word "pimp" - pimpmobile, pimp wagon, pimped-out car, pimp daddy, etc.

Good points - Handles very well, quiet, comfortable ride.  Good stereo.  The car I drove had the 2.7 liter V-6 which was sluggish but I was never seriously wanting for power.  The V-8 would make it a great drive.

Bad points - Lots of glare on the rear window, so wear polaroid shades.  Doors are too high to comfortably hand your arm over them for the "farmer's tan" unless you are built like a basketball player.



The "other" 300's (300 "touring") has a 3.5 liter, like the LHS, 300M, Concorde LXi had, not 2.7.  Not a bad, or sluggish engine, unless you compare it to the 300C Hemi.
6/7/2004 10:35:45 AM EDT
[#40]
I dont like that grill.  I still got my 95 SS that needs to get on the road.
6/7/2004 10:40:58 AM EDT
[#41]

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Hemi: (HEM -e) adj. Mopar in type, V8, hot tempered, native to the United States, carnivorous, eats primarily Mustangs, Camaros, and Corvettes. Also enjoys smoking a good import now and then to relax.



oh, you mean the 60's ones, ok.

because we put one of the UBER-hemi 5.7 rams on the dyno a couple weeks ago, and it came in at about 230hp.  and you cant tell me that it was all driveline loss.  and boy the owner was pissed too.



Was the truck 2wd, 4wd?

Yes, that kind of loss isn't unexpected. Partly because of any 2wd/4wd linkage (if it exists)...also because a lot of it depends on the PCM. Remember, the new hemi's are all drive-by-wire. There's no cable between the gas pedal and the motor; it runs to the computer.

Before doing any dyno testing, the driver of the vehicle should reset the PCM. As the PCM tries to "learn" about the driver for the first 500 miles..and after that, it adjusts settings and tunings for that driver. I've read stories about how guys, when they first got the truck, could smoke their tires up until 3rd gear if they punched it at a light...and once they passed the 550 or so mile mark, the truck suddenly lost a lot of it's power. They reset the PCM, and viola...power lost is found. For another 500 or so miles.

There's a bunch of mods people can do on 2003 Hemis...but not much that really can be done on 2004's. Airboxes? The factory airbox is apparently as close to perfect as most aftermarket makers can make it; most of the major names aren't even bothering coming up with a new air system. Exhaust...same there. People are putting Borla catbacks and such on, but it's not so much to increase performance, but to sound better.

EVERYONE is waiting for Hypertech to come out with their PCM programmer. It's been delayed like 5 times already...but that appears to be the magic pill that is supposed to really wake the hemi up.




Personally, I think those exhaust kits sound awful.  

I thought the Hypertech PCM's were available for like $350 bucks?  I saw one used on a show.  They bumped up a Cobra by 40 ponies after they used it!  Impressive.
6/7/2004 11:00:18 AM EDT
[#42]

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Personally, I think those exhaust kits sound awful.  

I thought the Hypertech PCM's were available for like $350 bucks?  I saw one used on a show.  They bumped up a Cobra by 40 ponies after they used it!  Impressive.



Not the reprogrammers...and I don't think anyone has a real working chip for the hemis. They have chips/programmers for the 4.7, the 5.2, and the 5.9...but none for the 5.7 hemi.

Once the programmer comes out..whoa. Plug in the programmer, dump the current firmware, replace with the new, and away you go. You can always re-flash it back to the original this way. It'll probably cost half a grand...but that's half a grand spent on parts that may or may not improve things, whereas this will be guaranteed to improve things. I think it's worth the wait, for my truck.
6/7/2004 11:11:25 AM EDT
[#43]

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I've been looking to buy a new car for sometime now and I just can't stop thinking about the 300C.  I love the way it looks, its got the 5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.   I think Nascar banned the 300's from racing cause they were eating up the comp.  Anyway I hear now that Chrysler is coming up with a 6.1 Liter 400+ engine.

Factory set at 345 HP, but I think with a little tuning we can crank it up to 400 hp.

For a fully loaded car at $35,000, I don't think theres too much out there to compare to it right now.  Apparently Toyota is reving up its Avalon to contend with this MOPAR beauty!


Here's some smoke in your eye!

superdave3692.home.comcast.net/300cdrifting.wmv



Is that supposed to be impressive or something? That thing is leaning, boating, squealing, and plowing through that turn so faggy that it looks like it's in slow motion. I sorta like those cars but that video is not why I'd buy one.

6/7/2004 11:14:02 AM EDT
[#44]

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Paying $35k for a performance car is like paying $25.00 for a bottle of wine, what you have in the end was an expensive bottle of $3.00 wine.



Okay.

We can't all afford a friggen' "real" performance car. And yes, I do know the difference. Most of us here will never be able to afford one. Not in addition to mortgages and retirement planning and everything else that comes with everyday life. Hell, lots of people can't afford gas and groceries. So we make do with our inferior attempts at happiness. Please don't shit on us peons anymore. It's getting old.

Or do I misunderstand your intent?




I am embarrassed to say that yes, you did misinterpret my intent, but no problem by me.
6/7/2004 11:51:27 AM EDT
[#45]

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I've been looking to buy a new car for sometime now and I just can't stop thinking about the 300C.  I love the way it looks, its got the 5.7 V8 Hemi and has a rep in Nascar history.   I think Nascar banned the 300's from racing cause they were eating up the comp.  Anyway I hear now that Chrysler is coming up with a 6.1 Liter 400+ engine.

Factory set at 345 HP, but I think with a little tuning we can crank it up to 400 hp.

For a fully loaded car at $35,000, I don't think theres too much out there to compare to it right now.  Apparently Toyota is reving up its Avalon to contend with this MOPAR beauty!


Here's some smoke in your eye!




superdave3692.home.comcast.net/300cdrifting.wmv



Is that supposed to be impressive or something? That thing is leaning, boating, squealing, and plowing through that turn so faggy that it looks like it's in slow motion. I sorta like those cars but that video is not why I'd buy one.




Its a friggin' sedan for crying out loud and quite heavy!  

and

its the only video i've been able to find on google what shows the 300c smoking its tires.


Show me a sedan that's fully loaded, similar specs for the same price!   Im curious.

 



6/7/2004 1:13:54 PM EDT
[#46]
Sweet, though I may not buy one, I'll lease instead.  May be wiser that way, who knows what the re-sale value or depreciation value of a $35K Chrysler will be in time & I am not willing to shell that much loot and take a chance with buying one.  The Japs have a higher re-sale value than American Cars anyways.   Lets see what they come up with,  2004 is only 1/2 over, the 2005's will be showcasing soon if not already.

http://popularmechanics.com/automotive/concept_cars/2003/4/ny_auto_show_live_rep3/images/tb_chrysler300clive-lead.jpg
6/7/2004 3:31:42 PM EDT
[#47]

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The "other" 300's (300 "touring") has a 3.5 liter, like the LHS, 300M, Concorde LXi had, not 2.7.  Not a bad, or sluggish engine, unless you compare it to the 300C Hemi.



From Motor Trend:

Three powerplants will be offered: a base 2.7-liter, 200-plus-horsepower V-6; a 3.5-liter V-6 (from the current front-drive 300M) rated at about 250 horsepower, and --drum roll, please--a refined-for-car-duty version of the Dodge truck 5.7-liter Hemi V-8. All V-6-powered models will be equipped with four-speed automatic transmissions. The Hemi packs a 340-horsepower punch and is backed by the same five-speed automatic trans used in the 12-cylinder Mercedes

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6/7/2004 3:34:23 PM EDT
[#48]

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Paying $35k for a performance car is like paying $25.00 for a bottle of wine, what you have in the end was an expensive bottle of $3.00 wine.



So...it's kind of like wasting a bunch of money on a bathroom when you can just shit in a can?

What do you drive Hielo?  A Yugo?

Sgatr15



HAHAHHA
6/7/2004 4:18:53 PM EDT
[#49]

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The "other" 300's (300 "touring") has a 3.5 liter, like the LHS, 300M, Concorde LXi had, not 2.7.  Not a bad, or sluggish engine, unless you compare it to the 300C Hemi.



From Motor Trend:

Three powerplants will be offered: a base 2.7-liter, 200-plus-horsepower V-6; a 3.5-liter V-6 (from the current front-drive 300M) rated at about 250 horsepower, and --drum roll, please--a refined-for-car-duty version of the Dodge truck 5.7-liter Hemi V-8. All V-6-powered models will be equipped with four-speed automatic transmissions. The Hemi packs a 340-horsepower punch and is backed by the same five-speed automatic trans used in the 12-cylinder Mercedes

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So are you getting a hemi cop car?


Will you give me a ride in it with the siren on?

6/7/2004 4:39:30 PM EDT
[#50]
A few facts.

The HEMI that was banned by NASCAR was the 426 HEMI.

Divide 426 by 61 and that will tell you how many liters it is... I believe it is about 7 liters.

The new HEMI is still a HEMI but it has low dome pistons but it still retains the cross flow heads.


I drove the new hemi powered 300C, it was a nice car. I would buy one but I am putting a lot of money into other things at the moment (plus i've been working on building a 588 HEMI for my Dart, but this will take much more time).

If I did get the 300C I could not leave it stock, that is my problem :)


The car handled very well, I was quite impressed with it. It is much larger than the Crossfire but it handled much better and could make much tighter turns.

My brother had a 68 Charger with a small block and the 300C seemed to accelerate much better!


All in all, I was impressed. I have heard of problems in the past with certain Chrysler products but I think those days are gone. My family has had several newer MOPARS and they have been fine, but admittedly i'm not too happy with the merger. Daimler actually did a lot to hurt the company IMHO.

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