Posted: 6/2/2004 7:40:44 AM EDT
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A co-worker related how he killed a diseased dog which was living under his house. The dog's fur was mostly gone due and the skin was red and raw due to excessive scratching. His house was infested by fleas from this dog. Animal control had failed several time to capture the dog, and they told my friend to kill the dog himself if he could. So my friend borrowed a .22 rifle and shot the dog in the mouth. Actually the bullet went through the bottom right jaw and exited the bottom left jaw. Which left the dog unable to close his mouth. According to my friend the dog lived for two months before dying. My guess is that he starved to death. I don't have a problem with dispatching dogs or animals when necessary however I told my friend that he had a responsiblity to shoot the dog so as to kill him quickly and minimize suffering. He seemed unconcerned, "This is Texas, I can shoot any dog that comes onto my property". He seemed to have missed my point. |
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Your friend is full of it. There is no way if the dogs jaw was inoperative that it could eat or drink water. Scooping water with your tounge only works if you can close your mouth to swallow the water. So either the dog died several days later due to lack of water, or the dog died from the disease with the gunshot just being extra pain. Or it died from infection in the gunshot. Any of those three situations makes your friend a real asshole. 
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Once he decided to shoot it and screwed it up why didn't he finish it? I don't know what possesses people to think that you just plug an animal with a .22 and it'll fall over dead instantly every single time. I saw a guy shoot a deer that fell off cliff into a roadway with a .50 blackpowder from a couple of feet away and fail to kill it. It went through the neck but didn't kill it. Another guy with us ended up having to slit it's throat. |
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Grunteled, My friend is actually a nice guy. But he was extremely frustrated with this dog. Imagine YOUR house and yard infested with fleas, especially if you got kids. He did call the Animal control several times and they were the ones who told him to kill the dog. He has no experience in shooting animals and I don't think he intented to cause excessive suffering for the dog. I think too that I my have put him on the defensive when I scolded him for not killing the dog quickly. As for the dog living two months, I don't know I wasn't there, I can only go by what he told me. |
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He may be a nice guy in other respects, but this aint one of them. How did shooting the dog in the mouth solve it's flea problem or the infestation it surely took to some other property during it's two months of life. If he doesn't know how to kill an animal humanely then perhaps ask someone who does. Leaving an animal to suffer the pain of a slow death due to ignorent use of a firearm is pretty high on my list of jerk qualities. I have no problem with the fact he was trying to dispatch a feral dog. I just cant understand knowingly allowing an animal to suffer for 2 months and not doing what needed to be done. Now I also thought of one other possibility, that the dog could move it's jaw to drink, but it was too painful to eat. In which case it may have starved to death. Wire your buddies mouth shut for a week and see if he can maybe understand where he went wrong then. |
| .22 is small for a dog, especially a wily one that you probably can't get a sure shot with. On the other hand, on my farm we had a dog like that hanging around, hardly any hair, infested with fleas. She was abused regularly by her so called owners. We took her in though. She cleaned right up, was the most greatful and loving animal I've ever seen. Jeez , if you do have to kill it , kill it outright. 12 gauge would've been a better idea. |
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SkipperJ, As unpleasant as this story is, I think it's important to tell. Because it shows how guns are sometimes used irresponsibly by some people. As gun owners, we advocate safe, responsible use of firearms in recreation, hunting or pest control. We need to learn from mistakes. |
if i was so frustrated with an animal i was told to dispatch of myself, i would be sure to do it quick, and do it right the first time. letting it die of infection for a week doesn't help anyone. |
True, broke jaw aside, the damn dog would have whined for every second till death. Sounds like ................................  
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NOW, it sounds like bullshit.....
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Even I wouldn't do that to a dog. I once had a man yell at me as a kid because I pulled to hard on my dogs leash and hurt the animal. I will never forget the lesson that man taugh me about pain that day. Your friend needs to learn the same lesson. For Christ sakes! Look into the animals eyes and tell me they don't fucking suffer! Sgtar15 |
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What happened to the fleas your friend was so frustrated after he shot the dog? Magically dissappear along with his frustration after the first shot? I live on a gravel rode about 1 mile from an illegal dump. Guess where everyone drops their unwanted dogs and cats? Guess who's trash can is closest to the dump? Guess who gets to dispatch a stray and starving dog about once a month? It sucks, but it's just what has to be done. I would never leave a wounded animal to suffer two months. It really isn't the animals fault when they wind up in these type situations. |
Well, I sure as hell hope you beat into him about respect for life next time. If he fails to do so I would drop him as a friend. The lesson to be learned here is that YOU now have a responsiblity to teach this guy. If you fail then never let him handle another rifle again. If you do then you are the bigger moron. Sgtar15 PS assuming the story is true. |
Highly hypocritical for the same gang that thought leaving the cat that they used for baiting coyotes tied up for the coyotes to eat when they left was good fun. There is a basic compact between humans and the animals that we domesticate that the animals be treated humanely since the animals are changed from their wild state and are now dependent on us. I'm not talking this PETA/Gaia BS, but to not leave an animal to die a slow death with a facial shot or to be tied up to be eaten alive by predators. If you need it explained to you, then you don't need to have animals. My 2ยข, wganz |
I don't recall that thread. But I am positive that most members here do not condone that. Animals are not human and can be killed for various reasons, including trapping and pest control. However, killing for pure fun is immoral and un-ethical. SGtar15 |
Maybe you better be more specific when you start accusing people of shit like that. You shoudn't accuse everyone here of that kind of thing because obviously not everyone here feels that way. Link the thread please. |
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You can't possibly be that dense.....can you? That is SARCASM SON!!! Sgtar15 |
You fucking cry baby, 3 guys total referenced a cat, one of them jokingly said to leave it when done. Big fucking deal, you want to accuse everyone on this board of animal cruely, get a fucking life. |
He's lucky he's not in NY. Shooting it at all unless it was attacking you here is illegal, and then to leave it to die for two months would be cruel and inhumane treatment. |