Posted: 5/30/2004 3:33:40 AM EDT
| Who makes a good .308 bolt action rifle? Nothing too expensive but well made and reliable. |
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Define "expensive"? Remington 700 LTR Synthetic stock, floated. Make sure you put Good Optic on it. Usually the optic is as much as base rifle ($1k for NightForce or Loopy) $2k all in. What ranges/accuracy are you looking for? If it is 300 yards and less, you can skimp down to $800 total. |
What brass said. What are you going to use it for, whats yer definition on too expencive. I can give you three choices off the top of my head but none of them may be what you want. Savage Win Mod.70 Stealth Remington700 All well made all reliable all accurate out of the box. |
MOA = 1.04" @ 100yds Minute Of Angle (geometry, picture a circle, then you have degrees, minutes, seconds... Like a watch) a "2 MOA Rifle" will hold a group of 2.08" at 100yds, 4.16" at 200yds, 6.24" @ 300yds. I generally only own "Sub-MOA" (1" or so @ 200yds) The optic, the mount, and the rings are just as important as barrel/action quality. I have seen many Fine rifles with crap optics. (Rifle capable of 1MOA, optic/mounts reduce to 3MOA) Spend more on the optic/mounts than the rifle. I have made $300 rifles shoot sub-MOA with target crown, tweaking on float, and a good optic. |
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Everyone will say a Remington 700 of some sort (VSS, PSS, LTR). Some might suggest a Winchester Model 70 Stealth or Savage 10FP. I think the Remington is a no brainer as there are tons of accessories and smiths who work on them, the price is right and they come with a good stock off the bat. Given that you're a person who didn't even know what 'MOA' means (no flame intended!) it would appear you have a bit to learn about shooting such a rifle. Pick up a Remington PSS or LTR, put a Badger scope base and rings on it, have a competent smith adjust the trigger from its' OEM lawyer-proof condition and get a decent Leupold 30mm-tubed scope for it. Then shoot the crap out of it for a year or two. By then you'll know what you really want and can have a good smith work on this very same rifle to make it happen for you. As always, YMMV. 
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Trust me on this...SAVAGE...if you are looking for an extremely accurate gun on the less expensive side...SAVAGE 110 FP in either .300 WinMag or .308...sub minute gun as long as you do your part...I have found that mine shot better with hand loads...the .300 WinMag with a 168 grain BTHP Sierra shot a consistent .5" 3 shot group...best to date was a .375 5 shot group...one small ragged hole My favorite is the Savage Scout in .308...small, handy, light and a tack driver too... |
| Bought a Savage 10 FP in .308 with the accutrigger. That was $450.00 with tax included. New Leupold base and rings, $50.00. I then mounted a Bushnell Elite 3200 5X15X50 on it for $260.00. They were on sale but they are still available for under $275.00 and a very good scope. New match .308 will shoot under an inch at 100 yards. Reloads with a Hornady 110 grain soft tip and 44 grains of Accurate 2230C in military cases also shot under an inch at a 100 yards. The Savage comes free floated, with a button rifled barrel, an adjustable trigger, a recessed barrel crown and a polymer stock. It's not a beauty queen, but it will definitely shoot. I have a Reminton 700 VLS that I really like more, but it's more expensive and in .223. |
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I have two Remingtons (PSS & Sendaro), that I bought new and broke in right, and I have a Savage that will outshoot both of them. I paid less than $400.00 dollars for the Savage and it will put five rounds close enough to be covered with a nickel at a hundred yards. The Savage is the best deal I ever made on an accurate rifle. I agree with some of the others here, buy a Savage and you will not regret the purchase. Shootist |
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I have a Savage 10FP with the new accutrigger in a McMillan stock. I consistently get under 3/4" at 100 yds. I have shot a 3/8" 3 shot group with it, just once. It maintains 1MOA accuracy out to 850yds which is the farthest I've taken it. I has also proven very accurate even after being dragged underwater thru a creek for 1/4 mile and banged around quite abit. (Leupold M3LR on badger and ferrell gear; Fed 168gr BTHP match) edit: I shopped around and got everything I needed for just under $1300  It's got a different paint job on it now; much more brown. 
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End of lesson. TXL |
What difference does the stock make? Isnt it just what the barrel/chamber/trigger group sit on? How does it affect accuracy? |
The Savage stock does not give the rigid support a precision (sniper/target) rifle needs. You need a solid foundation for accuracy. You don't want things moving around after a couple of rounds. Trust me, it is the thing to do. 
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www.savagearms.com/10fple2b.htm There is an option for a 10FP with McMillan...  Bit pricey for that budget, though. |