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Posted: 2/26/2021 11:41:56 AM EDT
[#1]
thats why i drink dr pepper
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:05:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sexual assault and murder should NEVER be eligible for parole. In fact they should never even sit in prison taking up resources. Death penalty. And make it quick. Like the day after convicting. This !!! |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:07:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The living quietly for 40 years makes me suspicious that there are not more murders associated with him. But I also tend to listen to crime podcasts often and am suspicious of a lot of things. I find those curious also. Some dude rapes/murders someone and never does it again. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:08:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The article sucks but here’s the likely steps to finding him. He leaves DNA at the scene. Cold case cops run test on it now then submit it to Ancestry type places for comparison. Probable relatives pop up from that comparison. Using that they narrow down suspects to a handful of people and go dumpster diving to get suspect’s DNA from coke can without a warrant. Once DNA confirms that’s him they get warrant. This. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:24:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine getting away with murder, only to be caught because you couldn't dispose of your trash properly. That's not why they caught him. Dude was busted because people related to him sent things in. They already knew who it was; nabbing the can was just a formality required for charges. I'm not aware of an instance where investigators wanted a sample and weren't able to get one, one way or another. Just about everyone here is already fucked on the DNA front; even if you weren't stupid enough to send it in yourself, one of your 'tarded Karen cousins was. This isn't 1995; the technology for gathering DNA has expanded immensely. They're nabbing people because they touched a rock or some shit - just barehanded, not even bleeding or anything - then the rock was put in an evidence shoebox 30+ years ago. There are also DNA convictions off spent, ejected brass from people loading mags without gloves on. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:36:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember a futuristic tv shows a few years back,where the bad guys had some kind of DNA bomb they set off at a crime scene. I could see that as a countermeasure someday. How hard would it be to go to parking lots and collect cigarette butts/chewed bubble gum/etc and have a bag full of other peoples DNA to leave at a crime scene? Throw some reasonable doubt out there anyway.  The Town (2010) - Cop Turns The Other Way... someone else mentioned it already but here is the clip. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:40:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s family members having their DNA tested that leads to this though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If guilty, good riddance to him. The larger picture here though is the DNA collection method. Don't get your DNA tested by anyone if you want privacy. It’s family members having their DNA tested that leads to this though. Yup |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:43:30 PM EDT
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Did vanilla Coke exist is 1981?
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:45:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vanilla Coke? Automatically guilty.  its good with cpt morgan |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:45:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:I was adopted at birth. So, if they want to use the genealogy thing to arrest me on felony charges of Aggravated Voting for Donald Trump, do they have to unseal adoption paperwork and drag my birth parents into court? I guess that would be one way to track them down.... That would make a good movie plot. Character commits a crime to find his genealogical parents. Perhaps needing a transplant or explanation for genetic disease. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:49:44 PM EDT
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According to wiki, Vanilla Coke wasn't produced on the US until 2002. It was first tested at the Worlds Fair in Knoxville in 1982
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Posted: 2/26/2021 12:53:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick duckduckgo search says Vanilla Coke launched in 2002. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 1:03:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/26/2021 1:04:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm waiting for the day when the cops kick in my door after my DNA is found at some crime scene. Not because I actually committed the crime but because my DNA is on file. We found lots of DNA on these 86 things we tested but no matches, but this 87th thing, an empty can found in the victim's bag, contained your DNA. $75,000 later I'm a free man and will lock my cans up so the homeless don't steal them in the future.  Yeah no lie...imagine getting arrested and jailed because of a snot rocket booger you let loose 20 years ago. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 1:05:04 PM EDT
[#15]
Kewl.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 1:05:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sexual assault and murder should NEVER be eligible for parole. In fact they should never even sit in prison taking up resources. Death penalty. And make it quick. Like the day after convicting. Brian Banks would take issue with that |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 1:18:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick duckduckgo search says Vanilla Coke launched in 2002. OMG - if that is correct, they not only caught a murderer; they caught a time traveler who committed a murder in 1981 and left behind evidence from no earlier than May 8th, 2002!!! |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 1:23:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your first point is valid but the article doesn’t give shit for details so no idea if the DNA they gathered was jizz or a bloody smear at the window frame. Your second point is ‘tarded. A guy in his 60’s looks guilty in his mug shot? Guessing that’s not much of a glamour shot for most folks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Playing devils advocate here. How do they know he wasn’t just some unlucky guy that she had hooked up with a day or two prior and the can of coke was still in the house from then? Although looking at his mug shot, he definitely looks like the kind a person that would do that. Your first point is valid but the article doesn’t give shit for details so no idea if the DNA they gathered was jizz or a bloody smear at the window frame. Your second point is ‘tarded. A guy in his 60’s looks guilty in his mug shot? Guessing that’s not much of a glamour shot for most folks. Wasn’t saying he did it. Just commenting that he looked like a creeper. But yeah it would depend on what they gathered the dna from for me to convict if I was a juror. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 1:32:04 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't plan on raping and killing anyone, so I won't lose sleep over this. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 1:56:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You aren't conservative? Imagine some poor girl raped and murdered all those years ago, dying alone and in terror and despair. Then 40 years later you track down the animal that did it. You walk up to him and show him a picture of her. "Remember her? We never forgot her." Click. Hopefully her shade rests in peace. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 1:58:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah no lie...imagine getting arrested and jailed because of a snot rocket booger you let loose 20 years ago. You have a habit of blowing snot rockets on the rug at murder scenes? |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 2:00:09 PM EDT
[#22]
Is this the same outfit that found Liz Warren to be engine?
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Posted: 2/26/2021 2:00:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If guilty, good riddance to him. The larger picture here though is the DNA collection method. Don't get your DNA tested by anyone if you want privacy. Unless you have enough control over every single member of your blood related family, not taking one yourself is pretty pointless. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 2:03:26 PM EDT
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Too late buddy. Have you had a blood draw lately? Labs?
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Posted: 2/26/2021 2:03:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s family members having their DNA tested that leads to this though. Yep. Also, don't get tested for covid. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 2:04:43 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm waiting for the day when the cops kick in my door after my DNA is found at some crime scene. Not because I actually committed the crime but because my DNA is on file. We found lots of DNA on these 86 things we tested but no matches, but this 87th thing, an empty can found in the victim's bag, contained your DNA. $75,000 later I'm a free man and will lock my cans up so the homeless don't steal them in the future. They've already had one murder case where touch DNA implicated a man who was in the hospital for detox at the time of the crime, they can't figure out how his DNA wound up on the victim. Fortunately, in his case, the authorities were doing a deep dive on him as the DNA was the only evidence tying him to the crime and found the medical records themselves, so while he was in jail for a period of time during the investigation, they dropped the charges against him so he didn't run the risk of being convicted because a public defender didn't have time to do that deep dive themselves (and the suspect was a habitual drunkard who couldn't remember what he did that day, which was how he wound up in the hospital to begin with). |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 2:18:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vanilla Coke? Automatically guilty. I like Vanilla Coke. It's too bad they hate my whiteness and I'm unwilling to give them more of my money. I'm glad they caught this guy. I'm a bit worried about how they will use DNA to prosecute crimes in the future that aren't crimes today however. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 2:42:34 PM EDT
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I hope they had more evidence than just some lab work and 40 year old DNA.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:03:28 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sexual assault and murder should NEVER be eligible for parole. In fact they should never even sit in prison taking up resources. Death penalty. And make it quick. Like the day after convicting. While the sentiment is commendable, the actual practice leaves much to be desired. Overzealous prosecutors and cops have led to too many innocent people being imprisoned. What is your opinion on what should happen to cops and prosecutors when someone is wrongly convicted and put to death? |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:12:04 AM EDT
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using DNA from family members whose biological information is already on file, So, “on file” with 23&me etc? Quoted: If guilty, good riddance to him. The larger picture here though is the DNA collection method. Don't get your DNA tested by anyone if you want privacy. Yep. And even when you choose not to participate, your dna can be disseminated by analyzing that of relatives. In the end I think nothing good will come of these programs, because of their flimsy privacy rules. The ONLY dna test I’m interested in getting is one for Dog2, and even then I’m not sure it’s worth it. Not because of privacy, but because I think I already figured it out just from basic observation. (Beagle-lab I think, emphasis on beagle) And I think that’s the gimmick with these things... it doesn’t really matter what your dna mix is, unless you’re looking for medical issues. It doesn’t actually change who your are to know if you’re part French or German. Just like the dog. She’ll still be the same dog. It won’t make her smarter or less food orientated. So getting the test doesn’t matter. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:25:14 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't plan on raping and killing anyone, so I won't lose sleep over this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't get your DNA tested by anyone if you want privacy. I don't plan on raping and killing anyone, so I won't lose sleep over this. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:32:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Playing devils advocate here. How do they know he wasn’t just some unlucky guy that she had hooked up with a day or two prior and the can of coke was still in the house from then? Although looking at his mug shot, he definitely looks like the kind a person that would do that. I was thinking the same thing. I hope Prosecutors will have more evidence at trial than; we found a Coke can at the crime scene. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:51:24 AM EDT
[#33]
Got to cover your mouth if you gonna sneeze at the grocery store.
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Posted: 3/1/2021 9:57:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have a habit of blowing snot rockets on the rug at murder scenes? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah no lie...imagine getting arrested and jailed because of a snot rocket booger you let loose 20 years ago. You have a habit of blowing snot rockets on the rug at murder scenes? Have you ever been to a hotel? |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 10:06:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick duckduckgo search says Vanilla Coke launched in 2002. Nice work Perry Mason, you broke the case wide open. No need to actually read the article.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 10:16:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine getting away with murder, only to be caught because you couldn't dispose of your trash properly. The cops picked cigarette butts out of his trash to catch him. He was a suspect but they couldn't do anything until the technology caught up. |
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