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Posted: 2/25/2021 3:23:48 AM EDT
[#1]
Seems like the low-high solution is stuff like the Tucano.
A turboprop aircraft seems like a great way to deal with enemies who's anti-aircraft capabilities primarily involve shooting an AK into the air and the occasional MANPAD. Easy maintenance, very low operating cost, the ordnance being dropped on the bad guy's head is still the same. When the insurgent's strategy is to force you spend outrageous amounts of money to fight him, develop cheaper ways to fight him. No need to bring an F-35 every time you want to drop something on a couple guys with PKMs. Any enemy that requires bringing a stealth jet is worth bringing an F-35. I think this middle ground between a Tucano and an F-35 doesn't need to be filled. I can't think of any adversary who has anti-aircraft assets that are too sophisticated for a Tucano that wouldn't be important enough to bring F-35s. Edit: And all that is putting aside any concerns about how cheap a new cheap fighter would actually be. The F-35 is already pushing close to, what, $80mil each with economies of scale kicking in? That's pretty damn decent as far as fighter aircraft go, especially for the most advanced and capable one in the world. If they want to make a new fighter that's dramatically less capable than the F-35, it better be dramatically less expensive too. If it's only slightly less expensive then there's really not much point. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 3:28:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Call me crazy but I dig the F35 VTOL variant. Looks badass just hovering around.
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Posted: 2/25/2021 3:39:14 AM EDT
[#3]
After talking to a few friends who are pilots and have sons who fly the F35 it does some things that are truly phenomenal.
Earlier generation aircraft will not even get close. Think internal drones/energy weapons. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 3:42:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder what’s in those bulges on the wing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder what’s in those bulges on the wing. Edit: already answered. I'm guessing mechanisms for folding the wings, but have no real technical knowledge. The USAF version doesn't have that bump though. They are fun to photograph though.  I am curious on what's with the different 'layers' on the exhaust though. Can't imagine it's super secret squirrel if they gave a good view to the public. (note: this was a public exhibition and I'm not .mil affiliated in any way, before someone starts screaming opsec.)     
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Posted: 2/25/2021 4:01:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More or less. You'll notice the same thing on the 22, but how the two go about accomplishing the same thing is quite different. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Electrohydraulics. Might not sound like much, but the F-35 has a radically different hydraulic system compared to its predecessors. The F-35 follows MEA, More Electric Aircraft concept. Instead of having a centralized duplex hydraulic system of pressurized lines, it utilizes a federated system of electrohydraulics that don't have interconnected hydraulic lines. So are the bulges space for the hydraulic pumps? Did a little reading. Those are some serious pumps and controls/power supplies.. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 4:02:56 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe we should talk to Sweden. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/DSC0437-1024x683_jpg-1840141.JPG https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/smart-fighter-180976751/ That isn’t going to earn any generals $300,000 a year board of director positions for when they retire. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 4:15:05 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: After talking to a few friends who are pilots and have sons who fly the F35 it does some things that are truly phenomenal. Earlier generation aircraft will not even get close. Think internal drones/energy weapons. If they ever come to Nellis for weapons school tell them to say hi. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 4:27:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: : And all that is putting aside any concerns about how cheap a new cheap fighter would actually be. The F-35 is already pushing close to, what, $80mil each with economies of scale kicking in? That's pretty damn decent as far as fighter aircraft go, especially for the most advanced and capable one in the world. If they want to make a new fighter that's dramatically less capable than the F-35, it better be dramatically less expensive too. If it's only slightly less expensive then there's really not much point. Taiwan just paid 8bill for 66 F16Vs. Like all contracts, that's more than just planes - there's parts, training and a bunch of other stuff. It's still very much in the same ballpark as the 80-100m that the F35 is costing. Do they really think they're going to design a new jet that's significantly cheaper than the F16? The cost of flight hours is substantially lower on the F16 than the F35 but do you think the idiots that would have to sign off the budget understand that? |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 4:50:48 AM EDT
[#9]
_lol_
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Posted: 2/25/2021 4:56:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Taiwan just paid 8bill for 66 F16Vs. Like all contracts, that's more than just planes - there's parts, training and a bunch of other stuff. It's still very much in the same ballpark as the 80-100m that the F35 is costing. Do they really think they're going to design a new jet that's significantly cheaper than the F16? The cost of flight hours is substantially lower on the F16 than the F35 but do you think the idiots that would have to sign off the budget understand that? I mean, maybe they could design a fighter jet that's significantly cheaper than an F16. But it would almost certainly also be significantly less capable than an F16 and dramatically less capable than an F35. I can't imagine any adversary that we'd want to fight with fighter jets but also want to bring something significantly less capable than an F16. If a fighter jet that's significantly less advanced than an F16 can deal with them, then Tucanos and drones can probably deal with them too. And if their anti-air assets are advanced enough that we want to bring a jet, then the fight is probably important enough that we should be bringing the F-35s. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 5:02:11 AM EDT
[#11]
Why does the A-10 excel at it's purpose?
Thank Pierre Sprey. His marching orders were, "Don't let the Air Force screw this up." He kept the design focused on the primary purpose. In a Swiss Army, one-plane-to-do-it-all package, it's either such a bundle of compromises that it doesn't do anything exceptionally, or getting the performance requires such a level of technical complexity that reliability, maintainability, and cost become detriments. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 5:02:31 AM EDT
[#12]
Phone went spastic and double posted.
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Posted: 2/25/2021 6:07:28 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does the A-10 excel at it's purpose? What is the A-10's purpose? |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 6:13:00 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the A-10's purpose? What's your main point? |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 6:56:49 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I absolutely love getting "schooled" on GD on matters of combat airpower from people who have no fucking clue what they're talking about, yet feel that because they play DCS or have a subscription to Aviation Week they can speak on the topics with some authority. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People who speculate about these types of weapons systems have no fucking clue what they are talking about. I absolutely love getting "schooled" on GD on matters of combat airpower from people who have no fucking clue what they're talking about, yet feel that because they play DCS or have a subscription to Aviation Week they can speak on the topics with some authority. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 7:11:06 AM EDT
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lol "F-35 has fAiLeD"
What a criminally ignorant steaming heap of trash that article was. I want to email the author and ask him if it hurts to be that fucking stupid. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 7:38:19 AM EDT
[#17]
What's the in-commission, combat ready rate on them?
How many maintenance hours per flying hour? With technical complexity is there a point of diminishing returns? After all, an airplane sitting on the ground isn't killing bad guys. From what I've seen, it's a pretty hot jet when it's working. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 7:46:26 AM EDT
[#18]
Buy 300 brand new F-16Vs and 350 F-15EXYZs to completely refresh the F-15 C/D/E fleet, while continuing to pump out F-35's. Start work on the F-22 replacement and stick with the order of 500 or so
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:00:13 AM EDT
[#19]
So what you’re saying is. They need a Chevy or a Ford that will go to work everyday and comeback with a profit.
 And drop the deadweight imports that white collared wanna be truck drivers drive. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:13:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The author and I have very different recollections of the JSF program requirements, development, EMD, and the such. The author writes words without bothering to discover what they mean or whether they tell an accurate, truthful, story. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:24:09 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the A-10's purpose? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why does the A-10 excel at it's purpose? What is the A-10's purpose? To be loved by underlings, hated by brass. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:39:05 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, wait, this is the War is Boring guy? Their stuff sucks. I wanted to like their articles and podcast but they’re no good. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:57:00 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That guy is an idiot. Especially if that someone gets money that was for the F35 for whatever they want. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:16:55 AM EDT
[#25]
To all who are reading this and calling the author and idiot. Please learn how to read.
The USAF has publicly stated that the F-35A is still not combat ready despite decades of work on the JSF project. There literally hundreds of major problems with design of the aircraft and major systems are still not working. WASHINGTON — An issue that risks damage to the F-35’s tail section if the aircraft needs to maintain supersonic speeds is not worth fixing and will instead be addressed by changing the operating parameters, the F-35 Joint Program Office told Defense News in a statement Friday. the F-35 jet can only fly at supersonic speeds for short bursts of time before there is a risk of structural damage and loss of stealth capability. So no after burner for you. The F35 is not capable of supersonic intercepts. Think about that for a second. A 5gen fighter that can't do the very mission it was designed to do. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:17:35 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone paid him or will give him something nice for writing that article. Especially if that someone gets money that was for the F35 for whatever they want. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That guy is an idiot. Especially if that someone gets money that was for the F35 for whatever they want. It’s dumb... Scrap the F-35 that we already spent how much on? To then spend more money on something new thinking we will get it for a lower price when reality kicks in and we will be lucky if it doesn’t exceed the cost of the F-35 and hopefully not have more problems..... It would be cheaper in the long run and at this point to work out the kinks in the F-35 and keep working on it. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:20:24 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To all who are reading this and calling the author and idiot. Please learn how to read. The USAF has publicly stated that the F-35A is still not combat ready despite decades of work on the JSF project. There literally hundreds of major problems with design of the aircraft and major systems are still not working. So no after burner for you. The F35 is not capable of supersonic intercepts. Think about that for a second. A 5gen fighter that can't do the very mission it was designed to do. Quote HistoryQuoted: To all who are reading this and calling the author and idiot. Please learn how to read. The USAF has publicly stated that the F-35A is still not combat ready despite decades of work on the JSF project. There literally hundreds of major problems with design of the aircraft and major systems are still not working. WASHINGTON — An issue that risks damage to the F-35’s tail section if the aircraft needs to maintain supersonic speeds is not worth fixing and will instead be addressed by changing the operating parameters, the F-35 Joint Program Office told Defense News in a statement Friday. the F-35 jet can only fly at supersonic speeds for short bursts of time before there is a risk of structural damage and loss of stealth capability. So no after burner for you. The F35 is not capable of supersonic intercepts. Think about that for a second. A 5gen fighter that can't do the very mission it was designed to do. Military Industrial Complex is hungry. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:24:26 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The final F-22 tail number more or less a done deal before Obama was even a US Senator. McCain had a huge part in killing the F-22. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:26:14 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe we should talk to Sweden. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/DSC0437-1024x683_jpg-1840141.JPG https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/smart-fighter-180976751/ The Gripen is a decent plane, but it would be a stupid choice for what we need. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:29:53 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: By the time you pay for new R&D for a new airframe, and stuff it with the same wizbang electronics that you already use in the F-35, it will end up being more expensive than just buying more F-35s.  Well, it is 'off the shelf' technology now. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:37:43 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the A-10's purpose? When you absolutely, positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room, accept no substitutes. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:42:12 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like the low-high solution is stuff like the Tucano. A turboprop aircraft seems like a great way to deal with enemies who's anti-aircraft capabilities primarily involve shooting an AK into the air and the occasional MANPAD. Easy maintenance, very low operating cost, the ordnance being dropped on the bad guy's head is still the same. When the insurgent's strategy is to force you spend outrageous amounts of money to fight him, develop cheaper ways to fight him. No need to bring an F-35 every time you want to drop something on a couple guys with PKMs. Any enemy that requires bringing a stealth jet is worth bringing an F-35. I think this middle ground between a Tucano and an F-35 doesn't need to be filled. I can't think of any adversary who has anti-aircraft assets that are too sophisticated for a Tucano that wouldn't be important enough to bring F-35s. Edit: And all that is putting aside any concerns about how cheap a new cheap fighter would actually be. The F-35 is already pushing close to, what, $80mil each with economies of scale kicking in? That's pretty damn decent as far as fighter aircraft go, especially for the most advanced and capable one in the world. If they want to make a new fighter that's dramatically less capable than the F-35, it better be dramatically less expensive too. If it's only slightly less expensive then there's really not much point. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:43:44 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: After talking to a few friends who are pilots and have sons who fly the F35 it does some things that are truly phenomenal. Earlier generation aircraft will not even get close. Think internal drones/energy weapons. this is what I am being told. the computer/avionics/radar/stealth abilities are the keys to this monster. the F35 is the quarterback in the air of the future. it won't be long before they are running fighter drones out of each one. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:43:44 AM EDT
[#34]
If they stopped playing fuckfuck games the costs will come down now that the majority of the NRE has been spent.
Buying a shitton of 4th gen fighters to go up against near-peer adversary's that we're currently planning for is fucking stupid. A high/low mix of some F-15's and F-16's or more realistically UAVs *if* they run the protected comms of the F35 then there is some benefits to having F35's be the lead command and control craft to help command "missile trucks" depending on the situation. The amount of stuff the F35 and even the F22 can do from a C4ISR perspective is mind boggling compared to 4th gen aircraft. To summarize: People don't think sensor fusion and MADL be like it is but it do. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:47:00 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy 300 brand new F-16Vs and 350 F-15EXYZs to completely refresh the F-15 C/D/E fleet, while continuing to pump out F-35's. Start work on the F-22 replacement and stick with the order of 500 or so this is not a bad plan. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:03:23 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Taiwan just paid 8bill for 66 F16Vs. Like all contracts, that's more than just planes - there's parts, training and a bunch of other stuff. It's still very much in the same ballpark as the 80-100m that the F35 is costing. Do they really think they're going to design a new jet that's significantly cheaper than the F16? The cost of flight hours is substantially lower on the F16 than the F35 but do you think the idiots that would have to sign off the budget understand that? Isn’t the Super Hornet about $80mm apiece? Considering what you’re getting, $100mm each for the F-35 seems reasonable. The Raptor is (was) 3x that, too. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:44:09 AM EDT
[#37]
Whatever happened to putting a laser in the cavity where the vertical takeoff hardware goes?
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:46:33 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever happened to putting a laser in the cavity where the vertical takeoff hardware goes? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Drevil_million_dollars.jpg https://www.c4isrnet.com/battlefield-tech/2021/02/23/air-force-to-begin-assembly-of-airborne-laser/ |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:57:28 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does the A-10 excel at it's purpose? Thank Pierre Sprey. His marching orders were, "Don't let the Air Force screw this up." He kept the design focused on the primary purpose. In a Swiss Army, one-plane-to-do-it-all package, it's either such a bundle of compromises that it doesn't do anything exceptionally, or getting the performance requires such a level of technical complexity that reliability, maintainability, and cost become detriments. Don't mention that failure again. Pierre Sprey is a fucking moron and his "contributions" to the A-10 were only verbal support. He gets blown the fuck out of proportion responsibilities-wise by National Interest and retards that subscribe to Aviation Weekly. 
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:58:35 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Edit: already answered. I'm guessing mechanisms for folding the wings, but have no real technical knowledge. The USAF version doesn't have that bump though. They are fun to photograph though. I am curious on what's with the different 'layers' on the exhaust though. Can't imagine it's super secret squirrel if they gave a good view to the public. (note: this was a public exhibition and I'm not .mil affiliated in any way, before someone starts screaming opsec.) https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66855857_682176792255779_914985612103122944_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=3&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=sDqoXfOTVCgAX_2fKi-&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=32df6d921691e5198187227e78dc93a8&oe=605D4A69 https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67176994_681662785640513_3386362390391029760_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=3&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=Ivl9ONdbFm0AX-FPKCK&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=53f98bca2a50116c57252dc1cb936fd9&oe=605E266D https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67152793_681582952315163_5601489295106899968_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=3&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=1T4u7NG5PlgAX_qDC3i&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=59687ca93c9a64adb45d322aed0e3c9d&oe=605E2ACB https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66837414_681654282308030_5906723154725699584_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=3&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=Bivzjc5QxKkAX_RT_xZ&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=df5f903fc6266113f1c80446ba5792f1&oe=605EBA2F https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66599438_681623435644448_4274162246784909312_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=3&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=3XFu6_oaB7IAX-LLG47&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=97fea1f138fea769f8ad72e2ede1bf1e&oe=605D1519 Ventilation flow for the engine nacelle. Engine components are actively cooled through oil and fuel paths, but there is still a lot of exfiltrated heat around the engine, so airflow is needed between the exterior of the engine shell and structure of the airframe. This airflow also helps provide motive force to guide ancillary ventilation flows throughout the airframe structure. All of that airflow into the cockpit that you hear in the videos has to go somewhere, right? So, we use cockpit outflow to create a pressure/flow gradient forward to aft of through the fuselage to the nacelle exit and several other exit point along the way. This helps mitigate the accumulation of combustible/explosive vapors inside the airframe. Some of the other ventilation overboard paths are at the weapon bays, gear doors, et cetera. You can visually see this during some of the F-22 demos in high humidity environments. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:58:49 AM EDT
[#41]
Thanks, I wasn't successful with search keywords
Quote HistoryQuote Historypushed back the first test to fiscal 2024 
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:03:41 PM EDT
[#42]
YF-22?
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:12:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryBut over 20 years of R&D, that lightweight replacement fighter got heavier and more expensive as the Air Force and lead contractor Lockheed Martin packed it with more and more new technology. LMT didn't pack it with anything that the Government didn't pay for them to add to it. The government held the purse and made all of the content decisions. (That isn't to say that LMT hasn't bought and paid for a suitable number of senators and representatives to ensure that there were enormous cost overruns and LMT could laugh all the way to the bank) |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:14:12 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't mention that failure again. Pierre Sprey is a fucking moron and his "contributions" to the A-10 were only verbal support. He gets blown the fuck out of proportion responsibilities-wise by National Interest and retards that subscribe to Aviation Weekly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why does the A-10 excel at it's purpose? Thank Pierre Sprey. His marching orders were, "Don't let the Air Force screw this up." He kept the design focused on the primary purpose. In a Swiss Army, one-plane-to-do-it-all package, it's either such a bundle of compromises that it doesn't do anything exceptionally, or getting the performance requires such a level of technical complexity that reliability, maintainability, and cost become detriments. Don't mention that failure again. Pierre Sprey is a fucking moron and his "contributions" to the A-10 were only verbal support. He gets blown the fuck out of proportion responsibilities-wise by National Interest and retards that subscribe to Aviation Weekly. I read it differently. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:21:11 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LMT didn't pack it with anything that the Government didn't pay for them to add to it. The government held the purse and made all of the content decisions. (That isn't to say that LMT hasn't bought and paid for a suitable number of senators and representatives to ensure that there were enormous cost overruns and LMT could laugh all the way to the bank) Quote HistoryQuoted: But over 20 years of R&D, that lightweight replacement fighter got heavier and more expensive as the Air Force and lead contractor Lockheed Martin packed it with more and more new technology. LMT didn't pack it with anything that the Government didn't pay for them to add to it. The government held the purse and made all of the content decisions. (That isn't to say that LMT hasn't bought and paid for a suitable number of senators and representatives to ensure that there were enormous cost overruns and LMT could laugh all the way to the bank) Seemingly inconsequential changes can turn into MASSIVE problems once all the trickle down effects of a change are known. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:31:43 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The author writes words without bothering to discover what they mean or whether they tell an accurate, truthful, story. I looked at some of the "author's" other articles.... He is some sort of Hipster Fucktard that is out to denigrate our shit. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:51:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been on plenty of NASA and DoD programs and I can tell you that 99% of the time scope creep is because of fucktarded people on the government side wanting something without listening or waiting for proper analysis of the scope change impacts. Seemingly inconsequential changes can turn into MASSIVE problems once all the trickle down effects of a change are known. I worked for a defense contractor on an Army program for 6 years making bank, much of that due to scope creep. And after all that, the program was ultimately cancelled before the first production unit shipped. 
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:53:14 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I worked for a defense contractor on an Army program for 6 years making bank, much of that due to scope creep. And after all that, the program was ultimately cancelled before the first production unit shipped. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've been on plenty of NASA and DoD programs and I can tell you that 99% of the time scope creep is because of fucktarded people on the government side wanting something without listening or waiting for proper analysis of the scope change impacts. Seemingly inconsequential changes can turn into MASSIVE problems once all the trickle down effects of a change are known. I worked for a defense contractor on an Army program for 6 years making bank, much of that due to scope creep. And after all that, the program was ultimately cancelled before the first production unit shipped.
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Posted: 2/25/2021 1:20:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's your main point? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the A-10's purpose? What's your main point? You seem to be saying that the A-10 is good because it is focused on its single "purpose", as opposed to multiple missions. Presumably to conclude that multirole is bad from a design standpoint. Well, what is the A-10's purpose? Because I'm of the opinion that it's a waste and doesn't actually do much better than the other platforms, if you think it's primary purpose is to kill bad guys. If you think it's purpose is to be a propaganda piece for congressmen to be used for arguements over how to spend more money, then yes, it's good at it's purpose. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 1:38:15 PM EDT
[#50]
 1/6 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON I recall Pierre Sprey saying that we'd be lucky to build to 300 of those things. So perhaps for the US Air Force he was correct. Luckily there are international sales. I think for the USAF the answer will be back to the future; like the 1990's stealthy niche fighters for day one to be used where stealth is necessary, then you have your day two fighters/missile and bomb trucks for everything else. And then there's a need for prop planes like the Tucano for mud huts and cavemen. I know, preaching to the choir... |
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