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I knew a guy in the Marines who remind me of a few in this thread.

He would always talk about the pure and chaste girls he was looking for.

But he would go out to bars and get drunk and start hitting on girls.

If they responded to his approach, he would start berating them and calling them "slut" or "whore."

On multiple occasions, I would come across a crying chick near him in a bar, and know exactly what had just happened.

Creepy fucker.

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Sorry, but if a man is of the opinion that a woman having sex on the first date is a factor that eliminates a woman from long term consideration, then if he is having sex on the first date, he is participating in and contributing to a negative behavior. Furthermore, he is demonstrating hypocrisy and a lack or morals. Neither of those are good qualities in a long term partner.

By judging her on such a basis while participating in the activity by which she is being judged, he demonstrates his unsuitability and lack of character.

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There are no guarantees either way.

Why would a woman marry you if you were willing to have sex on the first date.

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There is a broad range of circumstances.  For example the first date with one of my ex's was magic from the first moment.   She stayed the night that night and every other night for like 3 years.

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OP's shit is tl;dr.

Of course I would, I fuck on the first date too; who am I to deny them my essence.

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I did, but im really smooth and couldn't fault her for it.

Been married 20 years and have a family.
She turned out to make a great wife and mother.

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TL/DR

Yes.

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if your considering a long term relationship, sex is about dead last in the importance area and something you should not reach before learning out the actually important stuff snip

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TL/DR

Yes.

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I'm against marriage.

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I'm against marriage.

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if your considering a long term relationship, sex is about dead last in the importance area and something you should not reach before learning out the actually important stuff snip

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like the title says.

If you were to meet some woman who seems amazing, and she had sex with you on the first date, would you consider her marriage material? or long term relationship material?

personally, i would not. thru my life anytime i encountered a woman i was interested in, and she had sex with me really early in the relationship, i basically lost the urge to get to know her, and to put effort into a relationship, my interests turned to sexing her, and little else. while also looking for a more interesting women, interesting meaning one who made you work for it. the women who made me work for it, and i didnt get sex for months, were the ones i loved the most, that i had the long term relationships with, because by the time i got sex, i was also hooked emotionally.  i donty believe its just me, i think its men in general,  men in general love whores / easy sex. they love easy women, and love banging them, but they are not someone most men would be interested in marrying.

why?

     i think most men want a woman who values her intimacy highly, and cannot get intimate with a man until shes emotionally connected to him. so it takes a lot of time before she would even consider having sex with him, much less acting on it. if a woman is extremely unlikely to have sex easily with a man, then when shes married shes also unlikely to easily cheat on her husband. while the woman who easily has sex on a first date, is much less restricted when it comes to banging some random guy while shes married, because shes mad, unhappy, vengeful, bored etc. not to mention, thru history women have made a man invest much time and effort in them before they have sex with them. made them date them, care for them, learn about them and get to know them for months, or even years before the sex was obtained. because hopefully by the time the man was rewarded with sex, he was already emotionally attached and thus less likely to dump her after getting sex. which is extremely common these days. " why didnt that guy i fucked on the first date last night call me back? i really liked him !"  he didnt call you back, because you fucked him, had you not fucked him, he would probably be calling right now, in persuit of that sex.

in short. a woman who highly values her intimacy does not easily have sex with a man she just met..... and this extends into marriage, and results in a wife who is unlikey to cheat... while a woman who has sex easily with a guy she met a few hours ago, is also much more likely to just go screw some random guy while married as well, because shes mad / unhappy / bored.

you will never convince me otherwise.

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All these 20-30 marriages after sex on the first date, only further proves the superiority of Gen-X and what a magnificent time we all had in the 1980s

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Sure...we don't live in the 1700's anymore.

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80/20 is really the 90/10 rule now in dating. If you are in the top 10% of men, 90% of women will have sex with you on the first date.

If you are not in the top 10% those 90% of women are still having sex both before and after you with the 10%, but may not have sex with you before or possibly after they start dating or marry you. So using the criteria the woman is better if she makes you work for it does not mean much unless you are a top 10% and even then it is suspect.