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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:21:59 PM EDT
[#1]
We’re a two party system, it is what it is. Now, I won’t vote for some (most) GOP candidates.
That’s if you accept future voting is rigged regardless which I do. So, unless states clean up their voting process it’s moot. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:22:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Treating the Capitol protest like it even matters is the greatest gift to them. It doesn't matter. Minimal damage, minimal action, and people went into a public building. Next you'll pretend it never even happened. 
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:23:12 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: bull shit A new party would only split the GOP and further ensure democrat wins. Total mistake. Stop worshipping a man and start fixing the party. Fix the Swamp Uniparty? You can't... |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:23:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If we were smart we'd start a second leftist party. Split their vote so the right would have some breathing room to select some better candidates. Ever heard of the Green Party? They cost algore and the Ds the 2000 election and the Ds make sure nobody gets to the left of them to prevent that from happening again. Trump pulled the Rs to the right, which they hated. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:25:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Next you'll pretend it never even happened. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Treating the Capitol protest like it even matters is the greatest gift to them. It doesn't matter. Minimal damage, minimal action, and people went into a public building. Next you'll pretend it never even happened. I understand you believe the media. That it was a HUGE thing. Matters soooo much. But after months and months of burning and looting that actually mattered, the Capitol portion of the rally/protest was only said over and over to matter. I doubt even the politicians pretending they were so scared even actually care. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:25:14 PM EDT
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I'm in no hot hurry to see another party formed just now....Too soon.....I'd be content just to see the gop ripped-out root and stem and that can be accomplished by simply not voting for them anymore. Two four-year cycles should do the trick and the gop will go away. Die on the vine if you will.
Don't think that the gop is not well aware of that fact but they don't have the fight in them to prevent it. They are very easy meat. This is a case of yes, we can vote our way out of this one.  |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:26:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The DNC would love nothing more. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:28:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well everything we've done up to now has ensured their victory. I say let the new party be formed. Mark Stein made some intelligent comments about it today Republicans barely lost the senate (you can thank concentrating on the presidential fraud and McConnell for blocking the $2000 checks) and we picked up a bunch of seats in the house when we were supposed to have double digit losses. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:29:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This would ensure a victory for democrats Don’t care. We need another party. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:29:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: we need to make it at least real enough to scare the Republicans. They don't want to be out of power... Lol,they don't? When they aren't in power,they can pass all sorts of obamacare repeal bills,and tell us how they'll cut spending and do pro gun things too. Lots of promises and pandering,KNOWING they wont do it. It's a win win for them. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:31:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But we wont. The right has always selected their candidates, and this is what we have. Too many people will vote for a piece of shit, just because "if you don't, then the Dems will win" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If we were smart we'd start a second leftist party. Split their vote so the right would have some breathing room to select some better candidates. But we wont. The right has always selected their candidates, and this is what we have. Too many people will vote for a piece of shit, just because "if you don't, then the Dems will win" Yep,including anti gun big spending Republicans!! Oh,Wait... |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:31:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Treating the Capitol protest like it even matters is the greatest gift to them. It doesn't matter. Minimal damage, minimal action, and people went into a public building. Can't do that. Trump went a long with it. So did Senior leadership. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:31:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: at least the Democrats admit they are going to fuck us. Republicans politicians pretend to be on our side before they knife us in the back there is a reason its legal to execute spies vs uniformed enemy combatants, the betrayal is absolutely devastating  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:34:03 PM EDT
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The GOP made it impossible, through their traitorous actions this year, for me to ever vote for their candidates again.
They should have supported our President. Half of them wouldn't even have been re-elected if it wasn't for the big T supporting them, and when it came time that he needed their support they stabbed him in the back. Would be nice to have more options. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:35:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Good fuck both parties
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:11:44 PM EDT
[#16]
Might splinter the vote first time around but hey, what chance do we have now days anyway? Second time around I bet it would rock the Republicans world like it ain't ever been rocked before.
Personally I would take the risk. Status quo means we keep losing for a very long time. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:18:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The DNC would love nothing more. Not really. All you would have to do is consider the reps and the patriot party as a bloc. They form a coalition. And more conservative views actually get more traction because bitch McConnell can't tell them to eat shit. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:28:26 PM EDT
[#18]
I don't believe that poll.
If 73,000,000+ people vote for the new party how does that help the rats. That depends on getting the voting apparatus purged though. Don't believe polls. They are used to manipulate you. The bastards want you to believe their lies. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:37:32 PM EDT
[#19]
Some people better pay attention to this stuff. Life is going to get hard for Republicans.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:38:49 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Treating the Capitol protest like it even matters is the greatest gift to them. It doesn't matter. Minimal damage, minimal action, and people went into a public building. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This would be the greatest gift ever given to the DNC. Yep. It would even top the Capitol Event Treating the Capitol protest like it even matters is the greatest gift to them. It doesn't matter. Minimal damage, minimal action, and people went into a public building. Somebody gets it. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:48:21 PM EDT
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It amazes me that the Republicans have managed to yet again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. These morons are up here on TV spewing idiocy about convicting Trump in the Senate while half their voting block is walking away. A few more weeks of this and there will be no need for vote rigging.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:50:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, I guess the GOP better get on board. It isn't their party anymore. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:52:57 PM EDT
[#23]
A 3rd party would ensure a leftist supermajority.
Primarying RINOs and replacing them with actual conservatives would be more beneficial. Of course voting is compromised now so who knows |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:57:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This would ensure a victory for democrats No the Republican Party already did that |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:41:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If we were smart we'd start a second leftist party. Split their vote so the right would have some breathing room to select some better candidates. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:42:38 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who cares. Voting is finished for life. This. It makes zero difference and I won't vote for any national level R again. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:44:22 AM EDT
[#27]
I will not be voting for a GOP nominee ever again.
It's new party or nothing from here on out. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:44:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:45:29 AM EDT
[#29]
I don't believe it. Trump would get 70 million votes, and the R and D parties would split the remaining 80 million.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:46:59 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, that poll is polling way to low for the patriot party. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL we believe polls all of a sudden? No, that poll is polling way to low for the patriot party. Attached File |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:47:11 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't believe it. Trump would get 70 million votes, and the R and D parties would split the remaining 80 million.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:47:34 AM EDT
[#32]
Well gollee.
Then we better keep voting for Mitt Romney. It's never been so inportant. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:51:56 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Next you'll pretend it never even happened. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Treating the Capitol protest like it even matters is the greatest gift to them. It doesn't matter. Minimal damage, minimal action, and people went into a public building. Next you'll pretend it never even happened. We had an entire summer of people looting, burning, rioting, killing, assaulting and destroying businesses and property as well as an entire portion of a city taken over for several weeks causing millions if not billions of dollars in damages with every bit of it being called a "peaceful protest" or "summer of love" so you can GTFO with your leftist shit. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:52:53 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If we were smart we'd start a second leftist party. Split their vote so the right would have some breathing room to select some better candidates. Be patient. That horse mouthed OAC and “the Squad” are going to do just that. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:55:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed. Don't care. Unless we some sort of voter ID and actual voter reform. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who cares. Voting is finished for life. Indeed. Don't care. Unless we some sort of voter ID and actual voter reform. The Democrats are working on it now with proposed legislation introduced to the house already. It's not the reform you want though. Vote by mail Online voter registration Same day voter registration Automatic voter registration No penalties for illegal aliens that "mistakenly" vote in elections There was more BS that I can't remember off the top of my head and that's before the amendments get added on. Voting is a farce once it passes. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:56:53 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, that poll is polling way to low for the patriot party. It would make me go out and vote and I don’t vote anymore |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:58:17 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't believe it. Trump would get 70 million votes, and the R and D parties would split the remaining 80 million. If the Repub party renamed itself the Moderate Party and supported abortion, state paid for birth control, supported gay marriage, a moderate 'flat tax' and DACA they'd draw off at least a quarter of the Dem vote the Patriot Party would still bring in the MAGA crowd with their traditional conservative values. Only Dems suffer because Repubs are moderate socialists instead of radical socialists. And they'd have to depend on low percentage LGBTQWTFBBQ crowd and illegals for turnout. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:01:26 AM EDT
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I think this is general information, but if too specific, thread can be moved I’ve only recently returned to ARFCOM and seen all these moved threads you have to pay to read. So gd threads must be vague to remain? Too many specifics and you have to pay to read? 
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:02:28 AM EDT
[#39]
It'd hurt for a few election cycles, but it's been done before.
I'd rather break the corrupt shit we have right now than hold on to power that we don't actually have because the republicans are all fucking snakes. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:03:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Be patient. That horse mouthed OAC and “the Squad” are going to do just that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If we were smart we'd start a second leftist party. Split their vote so the right would have some breathing room to select some better candidates. Be patient. That horse mouthed OAC and “the Squad” are going to do just that. We should encourage that little snowflake to make her dreams come true then. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:05:44 AM EDT
[#41]
No other party other than the democrat party will ever win another election again..... they will rig every election from here on out...... I dont think that has registered yet in the minds of many American people yet....but it will...
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:08:22 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryYou think his base would abandon him? You're wrong. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:08:59 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This would ensure a victory for democrats But it might be a neccessary step to bring an end to the comedic foil GOPe who are happy to play second fiddle and largely want the same things as the Deomcrats. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:18:13 AM EDT
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update - put here and in op
gop concerned enough that ronna mcdaniel has been asking around about a 3rd party EXCLUSIVE: Republican National Committee (RNC) chair Ronna McDaniel says she's confident that former President Trump won't start a splinter party. But pointing to recent infighting within the Republican Party, McDaniel warned that the GOP has "to unite" in order to be successful in the 2022 elections, when the party hopes to win back majorities in the House and Senate and maintain its advantage over the Democrats in the governorships and state legislatures. "I've talked to the president (Trump). I've talked to others around the president, who are talking to him every day. He's not going to start a third party," McDaniel emphasized in an interview Tuesday with Fox News. .... now the gop wants 'to unite' for the up coming elections... the gop can @!#% themselves |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:23:20 AM EDT
[#45]
GOP and DNC is one and the same.
Time to split away. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:24:29 AM EDT
[#46]
The DNC has enough cheating in place to never lose again. Voting does not matter.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:37:03 AM EDT
[#47]
....well of course
look what Ross Perot did in 1992 The Green Party in 2000 We are stuck with the Republican party. Get over it and work locally to improve the system and elect like-minded candidates. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:43:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who cares. Voting is finished for life. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:01:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This would ensure a victory for democrats |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:02:20 AM EDT
[#50]
We should be working on forming a separate country, not a separate party.
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