Arrest him for resisting arrest.

There, fixed it for you.

That cop looks like he has downs or something.

Quite likely the case.  I won't defend our highway bandits for pulling that bullshit, either.

I had my doubts about his guilt too. But the only thing that concerns me is the DNA evidence that they say they found on his pants. How did it get there, and how did they know about it?

Dude had 36 charges. Found guilty of 18 of them for a total of 236 years total sentence. Seems like a lot of time to me. But then again you have to feel bad for the victims. 36 charges?  Was there more than just the two accusations?

The problem isnt the percentage of bad cops, its the life changing / ending effect that one bad cop can have, even if he is the only bad cop in the state.

Not worth the risk

Neither story would have happened here, as you would have received a property/ custody form with a case number and a detailed list of what was turned over to the agency

As many as 13 different woman came forward. I wonder if there were some looking to win the state lotto.

But even if is only one, what was the guy thinking ?

That he was a cop and could do whatever he wanted.

And as often as not, he'd be right.

First post is awesome.

Just curious....... was the officer convicted off the victims statement alone..... or was there DNA evidence backing her claims up?

That is irrelevant.

I have had very little contact with my local police. I live in a huge city with hundreds of officers. I highly doubt any efforts I make would have a positive benefit to me should I get into trouble.

I was going 60 but I thought it was a dick move.  Lol

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eta, shit...

it's at about 6:30 mark...

Pull off the question mark and stuff after it.  The feature can't use time stamps.

Shouldn’t you requested an attorney at that point?

It for sure is.  

I was on a small 2 lane highway once.  It has passing lanes every several miles. I got behind a car going probably 10 miles under the speed limit, so when the next passing lane came up I started to go around them.  The young lady driving took offense to this and sped up to match me.  I could see the end of the passing lane ahead, so I slowed down to get back behind her.  She apparently was pissed at this point because she hit her brakes to not let me get behind her.  My only choice was to floor it, so I did.  I went around her, then I see lights behind her.  I assumed he was getting her for being an asshole but nope, pulled me over for speeding. The conversation went like this.


Trooper: " you were going pretty fast, was she not letting you get over?"

Me: "yes, did you see that shit? That was my only option to get back over into our lane before I went into the oncoming lane"

Trooper:  "Yeah that's what I figured was going on, but you were still speeding.  I have to give you a ticket"

Is this a joke?

"she showed them the route that the officer had taken on the night of the attack, and it matched Holtzclaw's GPS route that evening.

No DNA linked

I have literally never met anyone who talked themselves out of jail.

I have, however, arrested probably a dozen who talked themselves into jail, and/or literally demanded that I allow them to write a written statement (post-Miranda, of course) that detailed their crime and why they did it. The best part was, it was usually pretty serious shit, like domestic battery, armed robbery, aggravated battery, domestic battery via strangulation, grand theft, etc.

Another interesting observation: the hoodrats never demanded to fill out a statement. Hoodrats were usually back on the block in a few weeks at most, or their case got dropped.

Never did hear from or see the "YOU HAVE TO LET ME TELL MY SIDE!" people again though...

::crickets::

Here the cops are hit or miss.  There is one town that is a dot on the map. They want to think that they are hot shit big department.  Most of my interactions with themhave been horrible.  

The police chief is noted as saying that if you have a CCW permit then open carry is illegal.  That is the chief making up the law. Any LEO that makes up laws should be dismissed immediately.  Open carry is legal in our this state.  Having a CCW has no bearing on open carry.

Was pulled over once on a side street. Now the stop was legit.  My motorcycle was having electrical issues and all my lights went out. I was turning around to go home.  Officer pulls me over.  We do the CCW dance and he disarms me.  I had a cocked and locked 1911.  He brings the gun back to me and wants to know how to decock it.  I told him it couldn't be done.  He insisted it could be.  I said not with a live round in the chamber.  He had not a clue.  I was pissed if you are going to disarm someone then you had better know how the weapon works.

This one still make my blood boil years later.  Not the stop, but being lied to about a citation for a law that doesn't exist.

My girlfriend and I were going home one night and one of her headlights went out.  The car was hers and she was driving  We were pulled over.  I had a CCW and a gun on me.  Holy fuck you would thought that we had just murdered someone. They disarmed me, told me not to move.  Then played 20 questions about why I need it and wanted to know all about our evening.  A simple headlight stop turned into a 45 minute stop with 5 officers.  The best part is towards the end.  They get all friendly and say we won't issue you t ticket this time blah blah blah.  Officer TwofaceLiar makes up a law and tells me next stops me and my weapon is not cleaned he will issue a citation.  That pissed me off.  Some say he was joking but when LEO threatens a person with a ticket for a crime that doesn't exist, that should be grounds for being fired.  Yes my weapon was dirty and had some rust. I carried it on my bike and would get wet.

Most of the town government is like that.  A friend had a business there. They would come up the craziest stuff.

Then don't invite the man into your life. Or just give him the wallet and walk off.

And that attitude is why people like me won't have anything to do with a LEO even if it is the right thing to do.

Do you even Garrity bro?

actually believing this. very very fitting gif. putin will clearly spare you since you're friends.

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Not sure of how many years law and order has been on? If you watched any of it ,you should know you have the right to remain silent!

Once you make it back to that little room, it's a big clue that it's time to shut up.

Apparently he should’ve worked for the BRPD here local. He could’ve been acquitted.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/courts/article_f7775610-e313-11e6-86a5-0bd93bd37b51.amp.html

Take a look at this gem. From a small municipal PD in WV that has a short stretch of I-64 running through it.

It's probably still on their website. I just took a screenshot of it the other day after hearing a first-hand story of encountering these guys.

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Do whatever you want.  Just do you.

I dont give a rat fuck if you dont want to talk to me.  

Got hit by drunk driver and dont want to tell me what you observed?  

Fine.  

Work the case yourself cause I've got other shit to do.

To me a good relationship is no relationship. The potential downside for interacting with the police is so much greater than any advantage you might gain by being buddy buddy that only someone really naïve would beleive this.

i have been in that town.  And Hurricane is pronounced with one syllable.

Will you leave me alone if I don't want to play your games even when you want me to?

What?  No way.   The other cop was just telling me how if I slipped up and was just honest with him he'd let me be on my way.

I talked an officer out of a concealed carry violation when stopped for speeding.

In Virginia a few years ago we changed the law so that a firearm
"secured in a closed compartment in a vehicle" is NOT considered concealed.
It does not have to be a locked compartment.
just closed.
Your glove box or vehicle console are allowed locations.

I did not raise my voice, I just repeated "secured in a closed compartment" over and over.

He reduced the speeding ticket to "disobeying a highway sign"  and saved me 30 bucks right off the top.
He never said another word about concealed carry after he went back to his car to write up the ticket.

He was a deputy sheriff from the county beside my residence county.
No one got hurt. No one was upset when it was over.
I never said a word about the speeding charge since he had me dead to right.
I was doing 70 in a 60 zone.
The County Mounties only give you 5 over.
The State police give 10.

I assume he called back to the office and asked for some advice.

I was polite and calm and he must have realized I saved him from looking
foolish when the ticket would have to be nol prossed.
I am retired with plenty of time available.

"All you have to do is prove your innocence and you can be on your way."

Speaking of "pick up the can," wait until people hear what happened to this particular guy who got pulled over by these guys.....

 The route 58 special.  250 dollar fine and 3 demerits for 3 years.  I got one instead of 5 over when I wouldn't let the cop search my car.  Got to love Emporia.

Who ever that was should be permabanned for stupidity as they obviously had enough notice to show up.

So you talk when you are legally required and have protections.  

Do your lawyers advise you to talk to the officers that are doing the criminals investigation where Garrity isn't in play?

If you want to trust Garrity..... I represented a cop who got indicted for something he did on duty, and he sung like a canary, b/c, Garrity..... Guess what the judge didn't give a flying flip about when the prosecutor wanted to use his statement?

Prosecutor here is the one who gives Garrity protections.

Who gives them in WV?

My question is, could a lawyer have done anything beyond telling a suspect/arrested person "dont say anything" or to give a statement on self-defense early on? what exactly would an attorney do for you that you could not do by invoking the right to remain silent

If you are a witness please talk to the police.
If you were involved in a crime it is in your best interest not to until you consult an attorney.

Source: I spent the last ten years of my career as a detective sergeant.

By the time I talked to you I already had you.

I sleep well knowing nobody went to prison on my cases that didn’t earn it.
I never tricked anyone or played games. All interviews recorded.

I could not live with myself if an innocent person went to prison on my cases.

It disgusts me that innocent people get jammed by lazy or crooked cops.