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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:32:35 PM EDT
[#1]
Lol
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:32:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking 5 w/auto-renew unless one party disagrees. If it's 2, you just get married every two years. There also needs to be a standard set of next steps: - have kids: here is the Federal income to support ratio - alimony: to qualify, meet these Federal requirements Etc. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:33:28 PM EDT
[#3]
What's the point? Just don't get married.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:35:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @PlaneJane I’m married because that’s what my husband wanted. In fact, what he’s wanted since he was four years old. If and when he no longer wants to married to me, he is free to go without financial obligation. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:36:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the point? Just don't get married. Only cucks don’t get married |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:37:29 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only cucks don't get married 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:38:14 PM EDT
[#7]
No.
I married her because I loved her (still do) and she was my best friend (still is) I dont want that to end. I say this after 30 years of marriage. And also dont like spending time to get something right just to have to start over.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:39:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then make better choices. Quit choosing those women. Good women are out there. Not all of them come in the perfect wrapper shallow people require. That doesn't mean they are ugly and fat either. Guys who make poor choices come up with ideas and answers like this. It's not about what you do or I do. This whole board is only a tiny fraction of the population. At the population level, it's a numbers game. If there's a significant mismatch between the expectations and desires of males and females, you're going to see what we've been seeing in marriage trends. When you alter one component of a complex system, you tend to get unforseen consequences rippling throughout. Fundamentally altering women's roles in society (for better or worse, I'm not arguing for a return to the old arrangement) has produced these downstream effects, and we're in the middle of the repercussions. It's like a market correction after a major change in the regulatory landscape. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:44:29 PM EDT
[#9]
First enlistment two years.
If reup then for three years term of service. If children automatic stop loss until the child graduates from high school. It could work. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:44:44 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So your kids can wonder every two years if they'll have a joint home?  That is up to the adults really. Just like it is every other single day. Marriage has become a farce. Sad but true. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:50:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds good to me. Shacking up, being well compensated, dogs instead of babies and a man who’s free to go if he’s not happy. Until the courts are reformed, I wouldn’t want to put a man I cared about in the position of being married. No argument from me, you're preaching to the choir. The issue is that a lot of women seem to think they want the whole shebang and have been led to believe that they can have it all. Getting an advanced degree, developing a career, and then meeting the perfect guy mid-late 30's to start a family is walking the razor's edge in terms of timetables, though. Any real delays or setbacks in the plan and the realities of the biological clock come into play. For whatever anecdotes are worth, I've seen a couple of the women I dated in college in this exact situation. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:54:28 PM EDT
[#12]
I saw where some Liberals(I couldn't believe that it came from Liberals) wanted to make it a law that if a couple doesn't have children within 3 years of marriage, then the marriage is ended.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No argument from me, you're preaching to the choir. The issue is that a lot of women seem to think they want the whole shebang and have been led to believe that they can have it all. Getting an advanced degree, developing a career, and then meeting the perfect guy mid-late 30's to start a family is walking the razor's edge in terms of timetables, though. Any real delays or setbacks in the plan and the realities of the biological clock come into play. For whatever anecdotes are worth, I've seen a couple of the women I dated in college in this exact situation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounds good to me. Shacking up, being well compensated, dogs instead of babies and a man who’s free to go if he’s not happy. Until the courts are reformed, I wouldn’t want to put a man I cared about in the position of being married. No argument from me, you're preaching to the choir. The issue is that a lot of women seem to think they want the whole shebang and have been led to believe that they can have it all. Getting an advanced degree, developing a career, and then meeting the perfect guy mid-late 30's to start a family is walking the razor's edge in terms of timetables, though. Any real delays or setbacks in the plan and the realities of the biological clock come into play. For whatever anecdotes are worth, I've seen a couple of the women I dated in college in this exact situation. It’s true. I was sold that feminist “have it all” fantasy. No ragerts for me, but I’m an outlier. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:56:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw where some Liberals(I couldn't believe that it came from Liberals) wanted to make it a law that if a couple doesn't have children within 3 years of marriage, then the marriage is ended. People are nuts |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:56:53 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No argument from me, you're preaching to the choir. The issue is that a lot of women seem to think they want the whole shebang and have been led to believe that they can have it all. Getting an advanced degree, developing a career, and then meeting the perfect guy mid-late 30's to start a family is walking the razor's edge in terms of timetables, though. Any real delays or setbacks in the plan and the realities of the biological clock come into play. For whatever anecdotes are worth, I've seen a couple of the women I dated in college in this exact situation.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:57:10 PM EDT
[#16]
@StevenH
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:57:31 PM EDT
[#17]
Perhaps if we're living in the 1950's..
Today, people are living together sooner and dating longer before getting married. No contact required untill both parties decide to get married. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:58:08 PM EDT
[#18]
Just don’t get fucking married if you can’t commit
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:02:12 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why call it “marriage”? That’s just moving in together. So when can I move in with you???  
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:12:24 PM EDT
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If it's a contract, does that mean the exit clause is defined? No more alimony just because the woman wanted to get back in the dating pool (or just screw the pool boy)?
Joint assets would get messy (buying a house, etc), but what your describing is probably just a glorified pre-nup. It comes up some in Science Fiction; couples have contracts, not enduring marriages. I wouldn't do it, I got married because I wanted to spend my life with my wife, but for those who just want/have hollywood type marriages, why not? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:16:10 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just don’t get fucking married if you can’t commit Pretty basic statement. I doubt anyone gets married with the idea it may fail in their lifetime. Life often has other plans. Reality sucks sometimes. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:16:49 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty basic statement. I doubt anyone gets married with the idea it may fail in their lifetime. Life often has other plans. Reality sucks sometimes. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:18:51 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: all relationships end, bruh. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty basic statement. I doubt anyone gets married with the idea it may fail in their lifetime. Life often has other plans. Reality sucks sometimes. Where the best case scenario is that your partner dies. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:19:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only cucks don’t get married  |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:20:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:21:48 PM EDT
[#26]
I have often wondered how that would be. Maybe a 10 year contract. Might make folks try harder if they were going to loose one they loved if they were not being on best behavior.
Also, it should be separated from spiritual and secular marriage. All the church goers say it is till death/eternal. Vows are taken and it is between God and them. Secular deals with the earthly goods and commitments. That is a contract. Still have to deal with the joint property and funds acquired during the contract, but maybe it could be more of a 50/50 deal. Then you have kids come into the mix. I have been lucky for 40 years married. Not all fun, but now the stage is solid. No changes now. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:21:52 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: all relationships end, bruh. 100% accurate. Difference if they end by choice such as divorce or end by death of spouse. 50/50 seems to be current tally. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:24:08 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not about what you do or I do. This whole board is only a tiny fraction of the population. At the population level, it's a numbers game. If there's a significant mismatch between the expectations and desires of males and females, you're going to see what we've been seeing in marriage trends. When you alter one component of a complex system, you tend to get unforseen consequences rippling throughout. Fundamentally altering women's roles in society (for better or worse, I'm not arguing for a return to the old arrangement) has produced these downstream effects, and we're in the middle of the repercussions. It's like a market correction after a major change in the regulatory landscape. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then make better choices. Quit choosing those women. Good women are out there. Not all of them come in the perfect wrapper shallow people require. That doesn't mean they are ugly and fat either. Guys who make poor choices come up with ideas and answers like this. It's not about what you do or I do. This whole board is only a tiny fraction of the population. At the population level, it's a numbers game. If there's a significant mismatch between the expectations and desires of males and females, you're going to see what we've been seeing in marriage trends. When you alter one component of a complex system, you tend to get unforseen consequences rippling throughout. Fundamentally altering women's roles in society (for better or worse, I'm not arguing for a return to the old arrangement) has produced these downstream effects, and we're in the middle of the repercussions. It's like a market correction after a major change in the regulatory landscape. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:24:35 PM EDT
[#29]
Hell no.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:25:07 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: Can be renewed if all parties agree. This way, no messy divorces. Would this save society or destroy it? He destruction of the nuclear family has had such a positive impacts why not accelerate that benefit... 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:25:13 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only cucks don't get married Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's the point? Just don't get married. Only cucks don't get married |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:30:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it Floats, Flys or Fncks, MUCH better to Rent than to Own... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seems like almost everyone I know that married wrong, figured it out within that time span. I say good idea If it Floats, Flys or Fncks, MUCH better to Rent than to Own... This is why there should be a lease program. Get a new shiny model upgrade every 3 years with no penalty as long as you don’t scratch or dent the old one too much 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:30:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why there should be a lease program. Get a new shiny model upgrade every 3 years with no penalty as long as you don't scratch or dent the old one too much
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:35:43 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: it's always cheaper to rent. Emotionally, sure, but financially, not always. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:43:37 PM EDT
[#35]
"Time Enough for Love" Robert Heinlen
Interesting idea. Not for me though. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:45:05 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: none of the above. don't get married. Never married myself but I would support the idea of a five-year license that is subject to expiration if the parties agree AND there are no children. Children nullify the expiration and parties must go through normal divorce proceedings. Agree though, in this day and age don't get married. The system is too broken these days. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:11:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: none of the above. don't get married. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:12:15 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Reminds me of an old Al Bundy quote: "Expired driver's license. Why can't a marriage license do that?" Never married myself but I would support the idea of a five-year license that is subject to expiration if the parties agree AND there are no children. Children nullify the expiration and parties must go through normal divorce proceedings. Agree though, in this day and age don't get married. The system is too broken these days.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:15:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're that broken/distrustful inside or have that much more assets then a potential mate that you want to protect just stick with hookers or get the pre-nup. Prenups expire in Texas after 20 years...ask me how I know. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:17:13 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Prenups expire in Texas after 20 years...ask me how I know. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:18:23 PM EDT
[#41]
Honestly that is less of a marriage than a homosexual civil union.
but i am sure some lawyer could draw up a civil union contract for you. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:19:06 PM EDT
[#42]
@spoonrobot
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:19:35 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @spoonrobot |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:34:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: is he married? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @spoonrobot No I'm just a bitch who's good for the occasional 3 minute hate on women. Marriage contracts are a desperate attempt to wrangle with the realization that the most destructive force known to western civilization is the unbridled sexual freedom of women. Women destroy themselves, they destroy their family, they destroy their workplace, and they eventually will destroy society because of their degenerate need for instant gratificaiton. You want to end messy divorces? 1. No more decade+ hormonal birth control before marriage 2. End the federal incentive for states to maximize alimony and child support payments |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:40:26 PM EDT
[#45]
 The Real Reason for Marriage - Prof. Jordan Peterson |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:41:49 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Marriage is an eternal bond that continues through all the worlds of God. That's funny because that's exactly what I said to al three of my ex wives when making nooky calls. 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:47:16 PM EDT
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"Trying out" marriage is a plan for failure. Like moving in together before marriage. Statistically you're worse off, yet people convince themselves it's smart. Because of saving money on rent and stuff, so much more important than marrying the right person.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:47:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not if you've read the Bible. Til death do us part... The Bible doesn’t say “til death do us part”. Talks a lot about becoming one flesh and cleaving into one another and not separating what God has made one. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:47:51 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m married because that’s what my husband wanted. In fact, what he’s wanted since he was four years old. If and when he no longer wants to married to me, he is free to go without financial obligation. That's exactly how it was with two of my exwives. No mess divorces. But we had no children or assets at that early age in my life. Now wife number 3 been married for 33 years next month. Marriage is something I learned needs to be continually worked on in order for it to grow. To me you must keep doing those things and falling in love over and over. Never treat her as an object or property. Talk and treat her as you'd want to be treated. Above all else never stop telling her how much she means to you. Life is good  Wife 1&2 were bad and short lived. But still never had children. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:50:54 PM EDT
[#50]
I'm not planning on entering into any more marriages, so it makes no difference to me.
However, I think such a thing would probably cause more problems than it solved, especially after the lawyers and bureaucrats have a few years to fuck it up. |
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