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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 3:49:42 PM EDT
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Agreed, on all point's, she's totally a "say one thing, do the opposite" type.  I apologize for coming off as crass.

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I enjoy debate.  I truly believe I come off more and more like an asshole on here as I have gotten more comfortable in the community.  I am not really a complete asshole in real life.  I just enjoy debate.  I play hard.  Most on here do.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 3:50:51 PM EDT
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That's how far the Overton window has shifted. If Kennedy was alive today he'd be more right than the whole republican party..
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JFK would be called a Nazi and a white supremacist today.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 4:02:27 PM EDT
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This.

Easily fooled idiots thinking she's "moderate".

Moderate or centrist is an average commie now.
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I don't think she is a moderate. I think on this particular issue she is taking a realistic and pragmatic position.

It is dangerous and foolish to always think the people who oppose you on key issues, are your polar opposite on everything.


Link Posted: 1/23/2021 4:09:36 PM EDT
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Just keep boycotting BRCC because Evan Hafer gave her $500 when she was running for president. That’s all that matters.
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It was the Obama money that pissed people off more than her
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 4:11:21 PM EDT
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FPNI.

She still joined a party that champions socialism, so she can still take a walk.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 4:59:33 PM EDT
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Gun grabbing Commie...nothing more....
The worst kind as she can use her Military experience to make the claim that no one needs a weapon of war and she knows, cause she's "Been there"
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:12:28 PM EDT
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no, no, I don't believe so.

I've followed her for a long time. Right after she was elected she hammered Obama on his record for a number of things. The way she is now is the way she is. Yeah, she said dumb things on the campaign trail that wasn't her nor her platform but she was trying to loop in the left.

The way she speaks to me sounds more Libertarian than anything. She isn't a communist or socialist, that is for sure.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:14:03 PM EDT
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no, no, I don't believe so.

I've followed her for a long time. Right after she was elected she hammered Obama on his record for a number of things. The way she is now is the way she is. Yeah, she said dumb things on the campaign trail that wasn't her nor her platform but she was trying to loop in the left.

The way she speaks to me sounds more Libertarian than anything. She isn't a communist or socialist, that is for sure.
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She wants socialized everything.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:20:12 PM EDT
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Trump is no longer in office.  What else do you have.  

I don't have a bumpstock, never did.  Banning them was a travesty.  Trump allowed a screw up.  YOU WOULD HAVE PREFERRED HILLARY?

Your point as I see is stupid at this time.

ETA:  I voted Cruz until he wasn't an option.  So just stop with that logic.  Trump was the choice we had and all that shit has been hashed out.  DON'T KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE.
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Ask trump who illegally used executive power to subvert and diminish the constitution.

If you don't think future presidents will hammer the 2nd by following his lead you are mistaken.

All enabled by the cult members. I do not now nor did I intend to purchase a bump stock. It is about the dangerous precedent set all to the cheers of the pro 2a crowd.
Trump is no longer in office.  What else do you have.  

I don't have a bumpstock, never did.  Banning them was a travesty.  Trump allowed a screw up.  YOU WOULD HAVE PREFERRED HILLARY?

Your point as I see is stupid at this time.

ETA:  I voted Cruz until he wasn't an option.  So just stop with that logic.  Trump was the choice we had and all that shit has been hashed out.  DON'T KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE.




I pointed out your double standards and hypocrisy which still stands at the moment.


Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:34:08 PM EDT
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Trusting an OCONUS Fobbit seems like a bad idea.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 7:16:18 PM EDT
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I don't think she is a moderate. I think on this particular issue she is taking a realistic and pragmatic position.

It is dangerous and foolish to always think the people who oppose you on key issues, are your polar opposite on everything.


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This.

Easily fooled idiots thinking she's "moderate".

Moderate or centrist is an average commie now.

I don't think she is a moderate. I think on this particular issue she is taking a realistic and pragmatic position.

It is dangerous and foolish to always think the people who oppose you on key issues, are your polar opposite on everything.




If they're wrong on key issues then they're wrong on everything important.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 7:23:26 PM EDT
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Honestly, if you expect GD to agree on any political candidate you're going to be waiting forever.

The candidate would have to have dozens of different viewpoints, centrist, far right, probably a bit of far left, while being a supermodel/fitness model.

Oh, also, follow multiple religious practices from differing viewpoints.  


As far as what I think about Gabbard:  she was the best of the lot of Democrat options.   She'd have made a better President than Biden, for sure.

I honestly do not give a shit if GD disagrees with me on this.

ymmv

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 7:28:08 PM EDT
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Na, man she is fake.  She wanted all the leftist shit before.  I doubt she changed what she believes in.  Just changed how she brands herself.  We have enough people who do that.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 8:22:39 PM EDT
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Na, man she is fake.  She wanted all the leftist shit before.  I doubt she changed what she believes in.  Just changed how she brands herself.  We have enough people who do that.
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You could very well be right. She could be trying to carve out a niche in the podcasting world or some such.

On the other hand it's *possible* she saw how fucked up the DNC was and wants no part of it.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 8:26:42 PM EDT
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How dare you OP, this is GD, no one is far right enough to be respected.

Even Jesus was a hippy socialist.

Thomas Jefferson was a commie.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 8:32:20 PM EDT
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She's just a Menshevik.

The party will put her against the wall when the time is convenient for them.

You guys praising her are fools and no better than the AOC and Sinema loving idiots that just see tits.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 8:36:37 PM EDT
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Said it before, I'll say it again, if she changed her gun stance I'd vote for her

That will get me on some ignore lists, but it's ok guys...


ETA: Watch her interview with Jocko and Rogan, it was pretty good guys
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 8:45:53 PM EDT
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We are now being defended by Omar and Gabbard.

Think about that.

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:01:10 PM EDT
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Oh I will. Tulsi is no friend of the 2A. She is a gun grabber in a pretty package.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:07:34 PM EDT
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That's how far the Overton window has shifted. If Kennedy was alive today he'd be more right than the whole republican party..
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I went back and read the Democrat platform at the time of his election and though "Damn, I'd vote for these guys..."

Crazy how things have changed.

Anyone that hasn't read it should read it.

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:12:41 PM EDT
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Absolutely !
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:16:59 PM EDT
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She's bucked the leftist trends regarding abortion and transgender people in sports, but her 2A stance is not good.

If she moves right on 2A she could have broad appeal.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:05:49 AM EDT
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She's bucked the leftist trends regarding abortion and transgender people in sports, but her 2A stance is not good.

If she moves right on 2A she could have broad appeal.
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Original sources for her being anti-2A are either ambiguous or 404'ed.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:10:28 AM EDT
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Up to a certain point yes, but I wouldn't trust her.  The huge problem she came from the Hawaiian Democratic party machine. That's bad enough.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:10:43 AM EDT
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Original sources for her being anti-2A are either ambiguous or 404'ed.
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I saw it live during the presidential debates comrad.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:17:56 AM EDT
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I watched her on Joe Rogan.  That's absolutely all I know about her. If she is as good as she sounded there, I'm in. Fuck the GOP.
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So you are going to change your entire political ideology because you listened to a completely scripted podcast?
Got it.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:20:10 AM EDT
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She wants to take your guns.

Might leave you a revolver and A double barrel shotgun.


What else matters?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:20:32 AM EDT
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So you are going to change your entire political ideology because you listened to a completely scripted podcast?
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A podcast with tits you moran. She's like a trojan horse with tits.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:22:03 AM EDT
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I don't need to "get back to you"  I made an astute observation, if you take anything more away from it than that then it's your own projections.
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Look at her gun policies and get back to us.

I don't need to "get back to you"  I made an astute observation, if you take anything more away from it than that then it's your own projections.


She deserves an asterisk or a “BUT she wants your guns even while she is protected by men with guns.”

That’s it.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:26:32 AM EDT
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I think the thing is, she's a commie, but she wants the country to hold together and get people to accept her radical positions peacefully. She's a 2010 Democrat.

The 2020 Democrats seem to be intent on forcing a choice between armed rebellion or the crushing of all dissent and offering the freedom to lick their boots, as if they WANT to boil the frog so fast they get a real insurrection so they can crush it and turn us into a total police state.

Some of the shit they're talking about doing right now... if King George implemented that back in the day there'd have been mass rioting across the colonies in response.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:32:45 AM EDT
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She’s a communist cunt who looks good from a distance, but when you get up close you see how ugly she really is.

Inside and out.

But lots of suckers in GD will fall for the pancake makeup and mostly just left of center speak.

It’s all false
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She's a communist cunt that happens to look nice. No more, no less.

She’s a communist cunt who looks good from a distance, but when you get up close you see how ugly she really is.

Inside and out.

But lots of suckers in GD will fall for the pancake makeup and mostly just left of center speak.

It’s all false


Did either of you watch the video?

Yeah, hes a gun grabbing twat and I wouldn't piss on her face if her eyelashes were on fire. But, shes 100% right in that clip.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:34:42 AM EDT
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Did either of you watch the video?

Yeah, hes a gun grabbing twat and I wouldn't piss on her face if her eyelashes were on fire. But, shes 100% right in that clip.
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Why do you care so much about getting the message of a "gun grabbing twat" out?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:41:08 AM EDT
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At this point in the history of our country, if voting actually mattered, I'd vote for someone who at least did what they said they would.

Tulsi Gabbard is, unfortunately, a snake.  Amazingly, she is LESS of a snake, than almost all of our 'representation', both Democrat and Republican.

There are THREE members of the GOP that do what they said they would.  Keep that in mind.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 8:49:50 AM EDT
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Why do you care so much about getting the message of a "gun grabbing twat" out?
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Because she spoke the truth on that topic...and the truth coming from her won't be blacked out like it would if it came from Trump.

She sees the danger in whats going on, regardless of her stance on anything else, she's 100% spot on.

Take off those My Team vs Your Team blinders and you'll see the merit in her words.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 9:37:59 AM EDT
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Some of you are gaslighted and drifting away if you think her views and ideals are anything like what this republic was founded upon.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 9:38:49 AM EDT
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she wants to ban firearms, bring back the fairness Doctrine, pass.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 9:44:37 AM EDT
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If she changed her party affiliation to Republican, and ran for president, morons would vote for her in droves.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 9:56:29 AM EDT
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“There’s no true Scotsman, bla bla bla”

Conservatives better start accepting help where they can get it, instead of demanding purity tests.  That’s how the movement failed in the past, because the right can’t unify while the left can.  

The future is both communism vs freedom but also populism vs establishment. Get used to bedfellows who may have some red in their background, when it makes sense to partner with them or they get redpilled.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:02:34 AM EDT
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I don't need to "get back to you"  I made an astute observation, if you take anything more away from it than that then it's your own projections.
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Then you must have much more Progressive blood running through your veins then what's flowing through mine.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:07:00 AM EDT
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“There’s no true Scotsman, bla bla bla”

Conservatives better start accepting help where they can get it, instead of demanding purity tests.  That’s how the movement failed in the past, because the right can’t unify while the left can.  

The future is both communism vs freedom but also populism vs establishment. Get used to bedfellows who may have some red in their background, when it makes sense to partner with them or they get redpilled.
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If we were talking a purity test based on only a bumpstock I’d agree previously.  At this point until people realize this is the attitude that got us we’re at,  we will never reverse course.  

She is a Democrat.  She is a do as I say when I say it towards however it’s convenient for each issue at the time type of person. There are no guiding principals of that party.  She would ban guns, support a basic income, support government healthcare, and support 3/4 of the SJW agenda.  That doesn’t mean she isn’t right in what she says about spying, but she isn’t a friend of the constitution just because on 3 issues out of 100 she isn’t a full blown government tyrant with the other 97.

She’s like talking the help of a child rapist and murderer during a zombie apocalypse because he or she has a particularly useful skill that’s needed.  F that.   I don’t want her help.  


Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:18:16 AM EDT
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You misspelled "She rubber stamped herself onto some standard DNC boiler plate that no one with a working brain thought had any chance of becoming law."

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Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:20:01 AM EDT
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The Republican party folded like a lawn chair at the most critical point. It's a nonentity.
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The Republican party folded like a lawn chair at the most critical point. It's a nonentity.


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"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

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"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it."

-Mark Twain
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:21:27 AM EDT
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It was the Obama money that pissed people off more than her
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Just keep boycotting BRCC because Evan Hafer gave her $500 when she was running for president. That’s all that matters.


It was the Obama money that pissed people off more than her



Or throwing Kyle under the bus...
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:23:11 AM EDT
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Lol
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:27:11 AM EDT
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You misspelled "She rubber stamped herself onto some standard DNC boiler plate that no one with a working brain thought had any chance of becoming law."

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Wow, you’re right!  She IS a champion of freedom and the second amendment!

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Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:27:19 AM EDT
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She was spot on with everything in that clip.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:31:20 AM EDT
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Tulsi Gabbard has an utopian view of socialism and brings it out in a kinder gentler way than Bernie Sanders.  Both have disdain for Liberty and The Constitution.  



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