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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 7:13:36 PM EDT
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You need to explain to those plates about the advancements in modern 9mm bullet design.
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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 7:17:43 PM EDT
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.40S&W is superior to 9mm. Wider, heavier and just as fast.

The only thing 9mm has over .40 is magazine capacity and its slightly easier to shoot fast/accurately.

When we are all stuck with 10 round magazines, .40 will rise again. I know I sure as hell wouldn’t carry a 9mm if I was limited to only ten rounds.
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If you're limited to only ten rounds, why not carry a 45 instead of a 40?
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 7:20:17 PM EDT
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.40 cal was made for cop-wannabees who could never in their wildest dreams make the cut.
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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 7:21:50 PM EDT
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Wow.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 7:25:56 PM EDT
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Reread the article.
Not all Sig .40's are going away.
Misleading title.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 7:29:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 7:49:08 PM EDT
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It’s not any harder to shoot than 9mm. Anyone who says it has too much recoil to be accurate probably also limp-wrists Glocks

Link Posted: 1/21/2021 8:25:52 PM EDT
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The .40's i have owned all shot well.  I wish i could find a M&P 2.0 .357s barrel that will fit a compact.
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Check Barsto
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 8:30:31 PM EDT
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It’s not any harder to shoot than 9mm. Anyone who says it has too much recoil to be accurate probably also limp-wrists Glocks

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I’d be curious to compare your scores after a 1000 round training day with 9mm and a 1000 round training day with 40.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 8:32:14 PM EDT
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I’m not a cop wannabe, but I do like my .40 P229.
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I’m not a cop wannabe, but I do like my .40 P229.

I like mine with both .357 Sig and .40 barrels.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 8:50:57 PM EDT
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This makes me very sad, easily my favorite ccw.  Finding mags in .357 has become unicorn level achievement.
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Honest question: is there any benefit to using the .357 mags over .40 mags? I got mine in .40 so I could shoot .357 and .40 with just a barrel change and not need new magazines.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 8:55:49 PM EDT
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Honest question: is there any benefit to using the .357 mags over .40 mags? I got mine in .40 so I could shoot .357 and .40 with just a barrel change and not need new magazines.
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No there is not.  You can even run 9 in the 40 mags.  At the range i have done it without any issues.  No way i carry that way.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 8:59:23 PM EDT
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Just a business choice that may be temporary. Many companies are cutting back on SKU's to focus on the very best sellers. Same thing is happening at Springfield. Has nothing to do with 40 as a cartridge, everything to do with sales overall.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:00:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:24:08 PM EDT
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I love my 229 in .40. It has served me well for a long time.
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Mine has too (love it!)  

I also have (all in .40):

P226
P239
M&P 40c (my EDC)

And plenty of ammo
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:27:12 PM EDT
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If you were an actual cop in the early 00's and didn't have a .40 you were automatically a total fag.

Cops are suckers for trends too.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:32:16 PM EDT
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.40 is more powerful.
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If you're limited to only ten rounds, why not carry a 45 instead of a 40?


.40 is more powerful.


And carries more rounds than a .45.  Win, win!
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:48:04 PM EDT
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I keep a couple of police trade-in G22s around because

1) I can easily convert them to 9mm or 357 Sig with a barrel change.  All of these guns can easily shoot at least 3 calibers with zero effort
2) since I reload 10mm I already have powder and projectiles to load them
3) .40S&W isn't really harder to shoot than 9mm in a practical sense.  Yeah you might have .1 sec longer splits but thankfully the guy mugging you doesn't;t have a timer.  If you can't handle the 40 maybe you should go to the gym and work on your wrists a bit? Maybe your boyfriend could spot you for a few curls or something.
4) They were cheap as dirt . . . AIM had them for $250 once.  Pretty much brand new Glocks!  Please folks - stop buying .40 guns so I can buy them up for cheap!

Plus, what the ongoing shortage is showing me is that diversification of calibers is a plus.  If I can't find 9mm, I can find .40 . . . or 10mm . . .or .45ACP . . . or .380 . . . or whatever.  People who only have one pistol caliber are a mystery to me - if a round fits into an autoloader I probably have something to make it go bang.  I feel the same for rifles.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:48:09 PM EDT
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.40 is more powerful.
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By what measure?
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:49:59 PM EDT
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It’s pronounced 10mm kurtz
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:41:54 PM EDT
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This makes me very sad, easily my favorite ccw.  Finding mags in .357 has become unicorn level achievement.
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I’ve heard.

Finding mags for the P320 in 40/357 was a bitch for a while too. Now I have a stack of them. My primary CCWa are P320 M18 and Subcompact 357 with the Wilson carry 2 module.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 11:11:32 PM EDT
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No, it was made for 10 rd mag restrictions. For 10 years there were no wonder 9s just neutered 9s.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 11:21:23 PM EDT
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Sounds like a case of small hands.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 11:48:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 11:59:00 PM EDT
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I have a sig 226 and 229 in .40 and a P320 compact and sub compact. I like the .40!
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 12:08:41 AM EDT
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Bad thinking, as current events show.  Heck I can't even get .454 Casual let alone any of the service calibers.

The problem isn't lack of diversification of calibers it's a lack of planning on the shooters part for not buying cheap and stacking deep.  Doing that very much favors 9mm.
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I keep a couple of police trade-in G22s around because

Plus, what the ongoing shortage is showing me is that diversification of calibers is a plus.  If I can't find 9mm, I can find .40 . . . or 10mm . . .or .45ACP . . . or .380 . . . or whatever.  People who only have one pistol caliber are a mystery to me - if a round fits into an autoloader I probably have something to make it go bang.  I feel the same for rifles.



Bad thinking, as current events show.  Heck I can't even get .454 Casual let alone any of the service calibers.

The problem isn't lack of diversification of calibers it's a lack of planning on the shooters part for not buying cheap and stacking deep.  Doing that very much favors 9mm.
As a reloader I generally can find either powder or projectiles for one of my guns.  For example 9mm *everything* is dry but 44 mag and .40 cal projectiles I can find at my LGS every couple of weeks. Randomly 45 XTPs will pop up and I have a gun for that.  Powder is the same way.  Diversity is the key . . . with diversity you don't get locked out because of the lack of a single component.  Luckily I bought quite a few primers so I'm good there.

Link Posted: 1/22/2021 12:29:47 AM EDT
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.40 is more powerful.
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If you're limited to only ten rounds, why not carry a 45 instead of a 40?


.40 is more powerful.


Laughs in 255gr @940 fps
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 12:33:24 AM EDT
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A sign of the times lol
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 12:41:29 AM EDT
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.40 cal was made after diversity hires with the FBI complained about the recoil of the 10 mm that the FBI proclaimed as the only caliber fit enough for FBI work.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 12:45:53 AM EDT
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change barrel and boom you have the vastly superior .357 sig
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Link Posted: 1/22/2021 12:48:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2021 12:51:44 AM EDT
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Should have happened years ago. Unnecessary round.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 1:00:09 AM EDT
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It's time.

A compromise round created based on flawed premises. It isn't a bad caliber but it's outlived it's purpose. I don't plan on owning any .40's except for competition use and a SHTF gun.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 1:34:46 AM EDT
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@110

Looks like KKM has what you're looking for.

KKM .357Sig M&P Compact
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I could contact them and ask, but it doesn't give much information other than finish and being 3.5 inch.  I think there is a difference in fitment between 1.0 and 2.0.  Too bad there wasn't some reviews too.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 1:37:23 AM EDT
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.40 was abandoned by girly men who dislike recoil
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 1:39:07 AM EDT
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They seem to have had one with a threaded barrel, but wasn't available in the drop down menu.  Maybe they used to make one and discontinued it?  $320 is a bit pricey.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 1:43:53 AM EDT
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It'll be popular again when the commies ban the 11th round...
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 1:45:09 AM EDT
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I have 100 rds of HST that won’t move at $1/rd

When guy claimed it but then ghosted when discussing meeting place
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You have him too much time to think about dropping $1/rd for 40 S&W.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 1:52:17 AM EDT
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I have been selling an ass ton of 40SW ammo.
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Got any more?
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 2:00:21 AM EDT
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The arguments against 40 are weird.....it's short and weak but recoils too much.....do you even physics,.bro?
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The increase in recoil/subsequent loss of accuracy in followup shots and the loss of magazine capacity are not commensurate with the terminal advantage gained over 9mm para, which is minuscule.

Link Posted: 1/22/2021 2:03:09 AM EDT
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I'm sorry you were born with tiny girlish hands that can't handle the slightly more snappy recoil of the .40. Maybe your husband can find you a nice .22 to shoot.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 2:22:25 AM EDT
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It'll be popular again when the commies ban the 11th round...
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Will it though? The slim/micro 9mm pistols have gained heavily in popularity. Many on here even carry the P365, G48 or G43.

People already are self selecting 10 round magazines as standard carry now.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 2:42:26 AM EDT
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I never made the switch to the .40. It wasn't because of the recoil etc. It was because at the time I saw more problems with the .40 caliber guns. Decent caliber, but it is like every other pistol round. In one year, and it seems like a short amount of time to me, I saw three one shot stops with .22lr, and another dude that took seven .40 rounds standing against a car smoking a cigarette. Weird shit... shot placement counts.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 2:58:39 AM EDT
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I'm sorry you were born with tiny girlish hands that can't handle the slightly more snappy recoil of the .40. Maybe your husband can find you a nice .22 to shoot.
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.40 cal was made for cop-wannabees who could never in their wildest dreams make the cut.


I'm sorry you were born with tiny girlish hands that can't handle the slightly more snappy recoil of the .40. Maybe your husband can find you a nice .22 to shoot.


40 was only made for those too weak for 10mm.

Only boomers like 40
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 3:06:59 AM EDT
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The ballistics on .40 out perform 9mm significantly.  A lot of departments had to dumb-down their guns because officers could not qualify with the .40.  If you can keep the .40 center mass, I believe you are compromising.  I'll take the stopping power of .40 over 9mm.  My wife carries a .40 as well and she shoots better than I do half the time.  Train like you fight.
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Stopping power.  That idea has been debunked for years.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 3:11:03 AM EDT
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How about 357 SIG?  I took all of my Sig 40s and put 357 Sig barrels into them.
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40SW helped gain popularity with the AWB of 94 without any doubt. Why carry a midsize gun that holds 10 rounds of 9mm when you can carry 10 rds of something with more power like a 40? In that scenario 40 makes the most sense. Same with 10mm. Carrry to the maximum power you can put in magazine. 460 Rowland. 10mm. Etc.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 3:12:27 AM EDT
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How about 357 SIG?  I took all of my Sig 40s and put 357 Sig barrels into them.
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I did something similar recently.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 3:53:43 AM EDT
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.40 is more powerful.
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If you're limited to only ten rounds, why not carry a 45 instead of a 40?


.40 is more powerful.



Link Posted: 1/22/2021 3:54:20 AM EDT
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I’d be curious to compare your scores after a 1000 round training day with 9mm and a 1000 round training day with 40.
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Why ? How is that relevant ?
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