Wait, you mean everything below is not going to happen?  Someone claiming to be a military analyst said it was going to and then a dozen other people agreed while praising him for such a great and insightful post.

Bummer.

I'm reminded of the big fat sheep who got it's own wool pulled over it's eyes.
Ha ha suckers, said the sniffer and his buddies at Dominion.
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Sidney Powell was on Trump's team at least until Nov 19th when she did the joint press conference with Rudy.  Yet people get mad at me when I say Trump's team intentionally played and misled people.

For those who might not have seen the details Powell's "military intelligence expert" that could prove the voting machines were talking to Dominon servers in Germany, was a guy in the Army that failed his basic IT courses and became a mechanic instead.  Her "expert Dominion witness" that she said would prove the algorithms changed votes was a temp worker for a 3rd party company hired to clean the glass on the scanners.  That is how little evidence Sidney Powell had and how badly she manipulated everyone.  Also, just this week she quietly withdrew her "Kraken" lawsuit against Georgia.  

Yup, plenty of evidence no one in power cared.

It never came to fruition because the people that needed to hear it was in on it too.

OP, you’re forgetting none of the evidence has been heard in a court of law.  The Democrats have been successful in blocking any lawsuit regarding the fraud.

Now you know. Don't forget what they are, next time the Republican cucks start preaching about conservatism and American values.

Lol we fucked ourselves by not holding our own party accountable. A bunch of closet communist statist anti constitutional law treasonous scum.  Trump is as guilty as the rest of them, he IS the swamp that everyone claims he was being attacked by. Look no further than the spending bills he signed and all the damage he's done to natural rights, such as the right to keep and bear arms.

The best thing to come from Trump's presidency and all this,  is that people are (at least temporarily) opening up to the reality that the court system is a kangaroo court, the media is blatant propaganda (with malicious intent.. I wonder who's behind it?) And the state and its agents (military included) are prepared to treat you, an American citizen. As a terrorist.

But hey, at least he "did the most to help out blacks" or whatever.. and he pardoned some scum of the earth degenerates so there's that..

Most of the evidence they present to the state legislatures was complete bullshit by Sidney Powell's "experts".  See above why that is such a joke.  

But there was also enough other evidence that the State Legislatures should have at least investigated something.  The State Legislatures failed the people in 2 ways, first they did not object in states like PA where state officials and judges usurped their power and second by not requiring some sort of inquiry on at least some of the evidence presented.  Trumps and TX's lawsuits would have had standing had a single State Legislature objected to how their election was handled.  That objection would have given Trump and TX a way to join those lawsuits and have standing.

There were over 60 lawsuits and at least 1/3 of the judges were Republican or Trump appointed judges.  You can't just say the Democrats killed the lawsuits.  Most of the lawsuits got kicked out because they did not provide the quantified evidence to the courts, just general claims.  "We know 32,000 people were affected by what the Democrats did...but we don't have specific names", of course the courts are going to toss that.  

I'm curious what made you think that?  Genuine question.   Every legal analysis I read (which was by no means exhaustive) made it pretty clear that had no chance from a merit or standing perspective.  I was genuinely stunned when people were surprised by that.

If he couldn't prove it in court and none of the states were willing or able to find enough evidence to prove it, why shouldn't he concede?  If no judge including ones he appointed would hear his case, he has ZERO legal or moral standing to NOT concede.  Say what you want about a crooked system but he doesn't get to stay president just because he wants to and thinks he was cheated.  He had his time in court and his lawyers couldn't get it done.

What, exactly, are you saying he should have done after exhausting every legal and procedural route?

I'm no legal expert, but it sounded like an "equal protection" issue like the 2000 election.

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I knew at 10PM on election night when they stopped counting. The oligarchy wanted Joe and there was no going back.

I hope at least some percentage of people will figure out there is no benefit to people in these institutions, not now and now ever.

The sooner that is reasoned through, the sooner people could start building a way to survive without them.

No leaders, no movements.

As a whole, the representative Republic we supposedly have, hasn't actually existed for a long time.. it's just that now more people can see it. Which is probably a design feature of the blatant fraudulence the whole world witnessed on the last election.

I haven't read all the replies, but here's my take on it (not that anyone cares lol).

I was very confident Trump would win prior to the election, if the fraud could be controlled. After election day I saw no reason for Trump to concede while there were still legal paths he could take to try to change the outcome.  The whole thing with Lin Wood and Sydney Powell has been a weird one, they made some bold, out there claims and it has puzzled me why people with successful careers and reputations would go so far out on a limb with such specific information knowing it was BS. Because of that, while unwilling to commit to their claims, I left the door cracked for what I'll call the "2020" factor where even the wildest shit can happen.

I still believe that fraud occurred using a shit load of unverified mail in ballots and harvesting, and that it swung the election. I've said all along that there was sufficient evidence to create a reasonable suspicion that fraud occurred at more than a 'every election year' level and it warranted investigation. I know a lot of people look at the evidence and conclude that is not the case, as is your right. But what I'm seeing is that all of the actual facts that we know happened has now been lumped in with the wild eyed conspiracy BS that's been peddled, and if people say they believe fraud occurred now they are automatically associated with the conspiracy stuff. The conspiracy stuff poisoned the well, and if that was their intention all along then it was a masterful move, well fucking done.

O_P is thrilled that a socialist is now president.

anti/nevertrumpers can gloat all they want....

the fact is, there was election fraud

the republicans that were suppose to represent the right, turned out to be complicit and supported the fraud

the various courts, up to the supreme court, refused to have hearings into the validity of the evidence, instead, they used various excuses like latch cases and lack of standing to explain their lack of desire to support justice

and the people that are anti/nevertrumpers that continue to spin against Trump and what happened, deserve some of the responsibility for what is going to come

I knew we were fucked before the election because of early voting and ballot harvesting.

I tried to tell people and they laughed at me.  I almost got in a fight at my favorite bar with the town drunk.

Now everyone wants me to find them guns and ammo.

I tell them they should have been preparing and not crying in their beer or whining like little bitches on the internet.

Can't fix stupid.

I can understand OP's opinion on this, but I have thought alot about all of this. I've watched the left and the democrats in Congress accuse, vilify, demean and use every thing they could to deligetimize the Trump presidency. Right from the get go. For the most part his own party didn't line up to play for him.

Is it possible something hinky occurred in the collection and tabulation of votes in key states ?

Personally.... I believe it's very possible.

Some of those filings were ridiculous. Stuff like "Dominion was founded by Hugo Chavez and the voting machines can connect to the internet, therefore we want 600,000 votes to be invalidated".   No judge is going to do that, but there were some who even said in their rulings that if the plaintiff can present more specific and credible evidence they would hear it.  That's the problem, too many supporters don't care to know how bad some of these filings were.  Ultimately it's a state issue and the state legislatures weren't willing to dig deeply enough to find it.  

I think at the end of the day it's because Trump needed to win too many states.  If it came down to 1-2 I think he would have gotten more traction, but he was trying to overturn results in 5 states and not enough people thought it would be possible even if they put in the effort.

The Texas lawsuit was the only one that I thought would make a difference.  But, when I saw Texas get thrown out for lack of standing, which was ridiculous, from a legal, and from a common sense standpoint, I knew that it was all pre-ordained.   Trump made the Swamp mad, and while every swamp creature may not have been out to destroy him, there wasn't a one who was going to lift a finger to help him.

Read This Town, by Mark Lebovich.  There is no difference in the Republicans and the Democrats.  When Trump promised to take on the Swamp, I don't know that he realized that half of the Swamp is Republican.

Another example of how GD can only process one thought at a time.  No wonder so many people were duped.  I know it is hard to believe but it is possible for someone to realize that Sidney Powell was full of shit and want Trump to win at the same time.  Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

The OP didn't say anything about being thrilled.  He said "Don't blindly follow. Investigate and don't let whatever empty garbage gets spewed fill your brain."  Maybe you should work on that.

I'm not sure how much credibility you should have, after your history with pushing people to support the wlp and cabal nra, and now the continued efforts to get people to join and support the nra 'so they can change the bod and vote wlp out'

very big, and now in red, so people in the back can read it.

it doesn't make you a bad parent for letting your kid believe they have a chance to grow up and play pro football, or be an astronaut. it makes you a bad parent when you keep reassuring them it's still going to happen on their 40th birthday.

Only if they aren't just as critical of ALL the garbage that is supposed to represent us in government.

I would also argue that a bigger, more serious long term issue then the dreaded "never trumper" is being a complicit, blind follower of any man or organization. Unwilling to criticize and recognize faults, especially supposed conservative politicians regardless of what they actually do

Well said and needs repeating.

Solid video. 100% agree. That is how a free man lives in a free state. Even under duress, a strong man strives to live that way.  

Ironically,  the "why" behind how that is now a radical idea, is difficult to talk about without being subjected to negative programmed behavior from so called conservatives, weirdly by those who seem to scream the loudest about free speech and anti censorship. It's almost as if this has been a long term plan unfolding before our very eyes.

After the SCOTUS loss, I was 90% sure it was over. There was a chance Pence wouldn't wuss out, but he did.

Here is my take, its worth what you paid for it. There are two scenarios:

A) There was indeed massive fraud, perpetrated by actors both foreign and domestic, comprising of ye olde fashioned ballot harvesting and stuffing as well as digital vote manipulation. The evidence has been presented. Statistical evidence, video evidence and tons of affadavits. None of that was ever born out in court, and as such never had the chance to be vetted one way or the other. EVERYONE saw this coming for at least a year, and doubly so with the Beer Flu / mail in voting push. How Trump didn't put in some countermeasures, I will never know. Sure, he can blame his subordinates but JFC its been 3 years you knew everyone was dirty, hire someone outside the DC Beltway. Furthermore, Trump had the EO in place and probably good enough cause from the DNI, but couldn't bring himself to be the person to impose martial law, because he wants to be loved. This dovetails with him failing to crack down on BLM and ANTIFA in any meaningful way. This is a short sighted move as it puts the citizenry directly in harms way, as well as himself staring at jail time.

B) There wasn't massive fraud, just as Barr said, its "bullshit." The past couple months have nothing but a circus side show to encourage recounts and audits in hopes of squeaking out a win. Objecting an election isn't new and shenanigans are always pulled. Its his right to do what he did to verify the integrity. But, in the end he knew he just didn't have the votes. Which is why, even though he had the authority, and knowing Beijing Biden is going to screw us all, he knew he just couldn't institute martial law. However, that does mean that the election system is still intact enough to still have a chance in 2022 to retake the House and possibly the other branches in 2024. However, he still holds enough sway that a yuge portion of the voter base have no faith in the election anymore. If this is the case, Trump really needs to admit it (which he won't).

I believe the former is the truth. However, the latter could also be true.

I realize that there was a lot of amping, pumping and anticipation especially from this forum. Sydney Powell even had rush going for a bit.
Trump too was throwing a lot of stuff that never came to be and couldn’t back up.
But I don’t care. The fact of the matter is, there was definitely fraud that took place. We asked to prove the results and we were denied. The little bit of audit we had revealed that fraud, discrepancies or irregularities all favored Biden.
The state Republican legislatures didn’t have the balls    
to stand up and allowed their states laws to be violated.
When you feel and there’s proof that your vote doesn’t matter is just awful

So, you’re denying the mass fraud?  You think this criminal pedophile is legitimate?

The part I really missed was how the Republicans in congress were screaming up and down the isles "VOTER FRAUD", instead it was herding cats

The democrats take a lie and run with it, everyone on board. Republicans can't support obvious voter fraud

I made a mirror image of this thread about NeverTrumpers after Trump "lost" the election and got it locked and a warning.

I bet Op is good tho...

The dirty little secret is that the Deep State actors in the Republican party wanted Trump gone just as much as the Dems.  Just look at how McConnell has suddenly started criticizing Trump.

Trump was truly a man standing all alone on a desert island.

The Deep State was too strong, and he couldn't fight it alone.

It's like the cancer looked at the healthy cells, and said, "You gotta go."

You should really stop using 5 year old troll notes to bash me.  I started calling for Wayne and the cat lady to step down back in 2016 after Miami_JBT made me aware of her and what they were doing.  That is 5 years for you to have learned what you just posted is a lie.  So much for your credibility.

I haven't told people to change the BoD from the inside since the last time we had someone here running for...which was 3 years ago.  Two years ago all the people we got elected to the BoD had their committees stripped and stepped down.

Updates your notes man.

Republicans over all never supported Trump on anything!  How many US Reps and Senators came out having Trump's back while he was handling with Covid?  Did any go on the Sunday news shows and talk about what a great job Trump was doing with it?  None that I ever heard of.  How many Republican Governors praised Trump for his quick action and the vaccine, outside of their photo op meeting with him?  None that I know of.  Only Ted Cruz and Rand Paul stood up and said voter fraud should be investigated, the rest of them stayed silent.

I dony believe we had a free or fair election but yeah, the people who were like "trump wanted to lose states to fraud to prove it and tear down the system...."  ugh.

Lol.  

I think people have too much faith in the right/legal thing happening.  Its like your kid decently good at QB so you tell him to keep working hard and he'll grt off the bench but the coach's son is starting...

Just because fraud occurred doesn't mean it'll be fixed.  Hell, 100% unlimited irrefutable proof with guilty pleas wouldn't result in trump getting back in.  Swamp.

The tailored, middle of the night, mail in ballots spikes are now cemented into the future of all elections, legitimized by, not one, but two elections, including the runoff elections in GA.

The attorneys share a large part of the blame, but they are far from alone in the blame game.

I didn't watch the stolen Inauguration, but I'm gathering by this thread, and the comments here, that obama gave biden his dog whistle so that he can initiate his promise of heeling America.

I had hope and faith...I still do.  Three-quarters of 74 million people still think the election was stolen.  That's substantial and I have faith it will manifest positively for the Republic...

You know what, ROCK6, I agree with you there.  Seventy-four million pissed off and  disappointed people are not going to just forget.  Some will give up and go back to everyday life, but others have had a gut full of being told it's raining while someone in Washington pisses on their head.

My hope is in people finding creative (and legal) ways to fuck with the Deep State. I'm hoping the genie is out of the bottle on "I'm as mad as Hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore!"

This is the guy who thinks that RINO-boomers caused Trump to lose AZ because they were still pissed off about how mean Trump was to McCain.

Remember when Trump said mean things about McCain?  In 2015?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.


ETA: To clarify, not you, cm, the member you quoted.

they went to the USSC before the election to get  a stop to some of what PA did via changing their rules, but the court decided 4-4 to let it go. this was about a week before barrett  got confirmed

fuck roberts

Anybody that believes Biden won this fair and square needs their ass beat for stupidity, just because the lawyers were blocked by corrupt courts and Trump finally gave up doesn't mean Biden is legitimate.

The Qanon cult has done untold damage. Even here, where people are usually pretty sharp.

We're in for 4yrs+ of shit. We need a capable conservative leader that can motivate the country because the dems will not leave much intact.

They would have stole it regardless of Qanon, Trump got 11 million more votes than Biden

Living in cal and see all this already play out, I don't have your faith. Not in the system anyway.

It may be up to the red state people living behind enemy lines in blue states to get 'er done.

I'm not hopeful in that respect.