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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:28:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazing how people can not grasp this. Simply supply and demand. More cheap Mexican labor means more supply and salaries decrease. Except $15/hr minimum wage Biden wants will supposedly fix that.  And yes, I know most of them are getting paid under the table for less than minimum wage with no WC, UI, FICA, etc. paid by the employer. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:29:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, maybe you should be asking yourself that question and the reasons behind it. Guess who was hustling to shovel snow in my Mom's neighborhood when we had a a bit over a foot of snow a month back.....Hispanic kids. There are no fewer "American" kids around than when I was a kid shoveling snow, hell there are more of them but the ones around now are just too sorry to do any work. You best wake up to the fact that Hispanics earn their wages and are increasingly the go to people if you need something done on the manual labor side of things. Or if you need more crimes committed. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:29:35 PM EDT
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The problem is that even if future generations would vote red, thats over since schools have become brainwashing schools. Theres more red voting hispanics than you guys think. Its probably like 40 percent.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:31:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:32:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:33:49 PM EDT
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Clearly the past 20 years have been a boon for personal freedom, 2A rights, and general cultural success for American citizens. We need more Hispanics!
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:34:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative but I am looking for a social reset and it will not come from whites or blacks currently living here, that much I'm sure.....You are now seeing what you get and will be getting from them. Do you like it, well do you? No but the ONLY reason the democrats want them to all come here is for votes and NOTHING else. And therein lies the rub. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:37:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No but the ONLY reason the democrats want them to all come here is for votes and NOTHING else. And therein lies the rub. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Negative but I am looking for a social reset and it will not come from whites or blacks currently living here, that much I'm sure.....You are now seeing what you get and will be getting from them. Do you like it, well do you? No but the ONLY reason the democrats want them to all come here is for votes and NOTHING else. And therein lies the rub. They also get a sanctioned criminal army to enact violence against their political enemies. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:37:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Cubans I know were born here and are liberal Dems. The irony of posting that on THIS board is probably lost on most of the newer guys. Given not only the man that started it but his son as well. Also I am a first generation American born from a a Cuban defector that just finished my 20yrs in the Navy and hasn’t voted for a Liberal ever and neither have my siblings. My grandfather, a doctor, fled with my mother to avoid communism and despised socialist policies his whole life. Part of the problem with breaking through with some of these groups is the fact that some of you guys write them off out of ignorance. And the constant jabs at Hispanics, Catholics, Etc as if the groups are all the same doesn’t help either. It only serves to push them into the arms of the Dems because it proves their “racist white conservative” narrative. whites still in Europe are way more liberal than many hispanics in America, and it would be stupid to assume either group is all the same based on race... painting with a that broad of a brush is retarded. The Dems just tried and lost the FL largely because of the Hispanic population in FL. Why do you insist on the same mistake? -Mike |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:39:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: I know this will not sit well with some here but here goes. My opinion has changed regarding our "recent Hispanic immigrants". In fact they may be the only hope left for America given the ever increasing number of them voting against the dems and their communism. Let's face it, they know communism and banana republics when they see them. Now I'm not so ignorant to know that they will: * Take full advantage of every freebee offered them.....You know, like "real" minority Americans do. * Fail to assimilate until at least a generation is born here.....No different than any other non English speaking immigrant group throughout our history. * Continue to take US jobs, work under the table, and send $$$ to their relatives in their home countries. * Shirk many existing laws. (most of which are anti-freedom anyway) What America does gain from them is: * A strong religious (abet mostly Catholic) sense. * Live in and promote much more cohesive family units than certain segments of our own minority population. * Possess a very powerful work ethic. Now I did not change my opinion because I am friends with any of them, only from what I have observed over the past few years in my AO. I don't know but working hard, raising a cohesive family, and wanting to be left the fuck alone are pretty much what used to be a American idea.  You forgot they are coming from socialist countries. As we have seen, they believe, like other socialists, that they have a right to violate our border immigration laws. Despite what you say, they are demanding what is not theirs and what they have not earned. That reeks of Marxism. Come here legally or stay home. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:41:16 PM EDT
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It's another innumerate boomer looking for an excuse to throw Americans under the bus and finally prove to the left he's not racist (I'm sure they'll finally believe him this time). He's convinced there are no hard working whites because the hard working whites have gone to a higher income bracket than him and avoid him for obvious reasons. He'll complain about the "kids these days" as he sells their future out for a 30 piece of silver discount on lawnmowing services.
@1srelluc please explain
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:42:05 PM EDT
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Tear down that wall !
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:42:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The irony of posting that on THIS board is probably lost on most of the newer guys. Given not only the man that started it but his son as well. Also I am a first generation American born from a a Cuban defector that just finished my 20yrs in the Navy and hasn’t voted for a Liberal ever and neither have my siblings. My grandfather, a doctor, fled with my mother to avoid communism and despised socialist policies his whole life. Part of the problem with breaking through with some of these groups is the fact that some of you guys write them off out of ignorance. And the constant jabs at Hispanics, Catholics, Etc as if the groups are all the same doesn’t help either. whites still in Europe are way more liberal than Cubans in America, and it would be stupid to assume either group is all the same based on race... painting with a that broad of a brush is retarded. The Dems just tried and lost the FL largely because of the Hispanic population in FL. Why do you insist on the same mistake? -Mike Cubans are not at all what is being talked about. In fact Cubans were only mentioned as being an example of good immigrants. What's being talked about is millions of people from the third world coming here for free healthcare and other endless benefits. Who will eventually be given Citizenship so they can vote 80%+ for Democrats so they can get more free money. The plan is completely obvious and has been for years. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:44:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The irony of posting that on THIS board is probably lost on most of the newer guys. Given not only the man that started it but his son as well. Also I am a first generation American born from a a Cuban defector that just finished my 20yrs in the Navy and hasn’t voted for a Liberal ever and neither have my siblings. My grandfather, a doctor, fled with my mother to avoid communism and despised socialist policies his whole life. Part of the problem with breaking through with some of these groups is the fact that some of you guys write them off out of ignorance. And the constant jabs at Hispanics, Catholics, Etc as if the groups are all the same doesn’t help either. It only serves to push them into the arms of the Dems because it proves their “racist white conservative” narrative. whites still in Europe are way more liberal than many hispanics in America, and it would be stupid to assume either group is all the same based on race... painting with a that broad of a brush is retarded. The Dems just tried and lost the FL largely because of the Hispanic population in FL. Why do you insist on the same mistake? -Mike Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Cubans I know were born here and are liberal Dems. The irony of posting that on THIS board is probably lost on most of the newer guys. Given not only the man that started it but his son as well. Also I am a first generation American born from a a Cuban defector that just finished my 20yrs in the Navy and hasn’t voted for a Liberal ever and neither have my siblings. My grandfather, a doctor, fled with my mother to avoid communism and despised socialist policies his whole life. Part of the problem with breaking through with some of these groups is the fact that some of you guys write them off out of ignorance. And the constant jabs at Hispanics, Catholics, Etc as if the groups are all the same doesn’t help either. It only serves to push them into the arms of the Dems because it proves their “racist white conservative” narrative. whites still in Europe are way more liberal than many hispanics in America, and it would be stupid to assume either group is all the same based on race... painting with a that broad of a brush is retarded. The Dems just tried and lost the FL largely because of the Hispanic population in FL. Why do you insist on the same mistake? -Mike Fake news. There is no breaking through to the majority of hispanic voters, that's more miamijbt bullshit. Hispanics don't want to be lumped together with dumbfuck liberals? Stop voting with them and for them. Lots of immigrant and first gen cubans are conservative. Overwhelmingly 2nd generation and younger are not. This is a common trend with those fleeing oppressive governments and is writ large all over social media. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:46:29 PM EDT
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The Catholic Church is not an ally for freedom and liberty. I keep hearing that Hispanic/ Latino Catholics are conservative...not sure where you all get this from. The Catholic church is one of the main financiers of the caravans, helping illegal aliens in court, getting them on welfare and offering them sanctuary and not in the terms of the church. The Catholic church has also been popped with ID fraud for them.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:47:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: I know this will not sit well with some here but here goes. My opinion has changed regarding our "recent Hispanic immigrants". In fact they may be the only hope left for America given the ever increasing number of them voting against the dems and their communism. Let's face it, they know communism and banana republics when they see them. Now I'm not so ignorant to know that they will: * Take full advantage of every freebee offered them.....You know, like "real" minority Americans do. * Fail to assimilate until at least a generation is born here.....No different than any other non English speaking immigrant group throughout our history. * Continue to take US jobs, work under the table, and send $$$ to their relatives in their home countries. * Shirk many existing laws. (most of which are anti-freedom anyway) What America does gain from them is: * A strong religious (abet mostly Catholic) sense. * Live in and promote much more cohesive family units than certain segments of our own minority population. * Possess a very powerful work ethic. Now I did not change my opinion because I am friends with any of them, only from what I have observed over the past few years in my AO. I don't know but working hard, raising a cohesive family, and wanting to be left the fuck alone are pretty much what used to be a American idea. The problem is that they come from countries that generally have a history of electing even more left wing governments than we have here now (though increasingly not by much), and they bring their voting habits here. Yes, they have in general strong families, strong religious ties, good work ethic. They have a lot to recommend them. But, they will consistently vote left wing. And polls show that the 2nd generation of immigrants from Central and South America vote even more consistently Democrat than their parents - something like 50% vs. 70% Democrat. If nothing else makes you question your position - consider that Karl Rove has been promoting exactly the same position for the last 20 years. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:48:07 PM EDT
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I am an Immigrant ( White european ) and I really VALUE the right to reside in USA.
As soon as I qualify, I intend to naturalise and be a US citizen. In fact I am seeing Americans who hate their own country. I am seeing kids not understanding that by being born here, they have already go a huge head start in life. Having had NO LEGAL ENTITLEMENT to possesion of ANY article for self defense - I am 100% grateful for the 2nd Amendment. I carry 24/7 where legal. In fact sometimes I think I cherish it more that many Americans who will not know its value until its gone. Edit - mostly retired and should be able to support myself from my UK pension so not taking any jobs from anybody. But paying taxes and integrating as best as I can. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:48:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well seeing as they're doing jobs most Americans won't do for chump change, I think you can take at least one more thing off your "cons" list. I fixed it for you. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:48:37 PM EDT
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99% are hardworking, care about family, and just want to be left alone, believing in life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with the ability to own and possess firearms. They're more american than half this country. And yes I have many who are friends.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:48:43 PM EDT
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Just a reminder for all the angsty conservatives - we're getting our hispano-socialist state whether or not the amnesty happens. Critical mass has already been attained.
 
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:49:25 PM EDT
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99% are hardworking, care about family, and just want to be left alone, believing in life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with the ability to own and possess firearms. They're more american than half this country. And yes I have many who are friends.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:49:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 99% are hardworking, care about family, and just want to be left alone, believing in life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with the ability to own and possess firearms. They're more american than half this country. And yes I have many who are friends.  
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wasn't saying you did. When this debate comes up, it always seems to seen through the lens of race and ethnicity. Meanwhile, that's really not what's important. It's a question of intelligence and economics. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Millions of largely uneducated, non-English speaking, impoverished, unskilled migrants will usher in a new, massive government dependency class that will loyally vote for the left. Think there are jobs for these people? What do you think millions of uneducated, non-English speaking, impoverished, unskilled migrants who show up with little more than the clothes on there backs will do once here? They'll be entirely dependent on government assistance and we'll pay for it in a while host of categories. They will assure an unchallengeable leftist government for generations. Period. I never mentioned race. Reality and history dictates where most will come from, not me. When this debate comes up, it always seems to seen through the lens of race and ethnicity. Meanwhile, that's really not what's important. It's a question of intelligence and economics. Agreed. Which is a direct correlation to being a successfully assimilated contributor to society or a dependent, as you know. Those two categories drive votes in two very different directions.....and the left is well aware of the benefits of open borders, thus why it's so important to them. This is no exercise in humanitarianism. This is about unchallengeable multigenerational power. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:50:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The irony of posting that on THIS board is probably lost on most of the newer guys. Given not only the man that started it but his son as well. Also I am a first generation American born from a a Cuban defector that just finished my 20yrs in the Navy and hasn’t voted for a Liberal ever and neither have my siblings. My grandfather, a doctor, fled with my mother to avoid communism and despised socialist policies his whole life. Part of the problem with breaking through with some of these groups is the fact that some of you guys write them off out of ignorance. And the constant jabs at Hispanics, Catholics, Etc as if the groups are all the same doesn’t help either. It only serves to push them into the arms of the Dems because it proves their “racist white conservative” narrative. whites still in Europe are way more liberal than many hispanics in America, and it would be stupid to assume either group is all the same based on race... painting with a that broad of a brush is retarded. The Dems just tried and lost the FL largely because of the Hispanic population in FL. Why do you insist on the same mistake? -Mike Exit polling showed 66% of Hispanics voted democrat in November, 2020. That is far better than blacks but still substantially in favor of communists. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:52:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 99% are hardworking, care about family, and just want to be left alone, believing in life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with the ability to own and possess firearms. They're more american than half this country. And yes I have many who are friends. Tell me about the available employment vacancies, that exist in the tens of millions that await largely uneducated, unskilled, impoverished migrants who for the most part don't speak English and bring nothing but the clothes on their backs. Tell me how (or more realistically who) will provide for them? Please be specific. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:55:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 99% are hardworking, care about family, and just want to be left alone, believing in life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with the ability to own and possess firearms. They're more american than half this country. And yes I have many who are friends. Again, this can be disproven in a simple Google search.  And Hispanics in general should not be conflate with Cubans, who actually are quite patriotic. Here's the difference  |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:57:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem is that they come from countries that generally have a history of electing even more left wing governments than we have here now (though increasingly not by much), and they bring their voting habits here. Yes, they have in general strong families, strong religious ties, good work ethic. They have a lot to recommend them. But, they will consistently vote left wing. And polls show that the 2nd generation of immigrants from Central and South America vote even more consistently Democrat than their parents - something like 50% vs. 70% Democrat. If nothing else makes you question your position - consider that Karl Rove has been promoting exactly the same position for the last 20 years.  Thing is we have this "lemon" here and we best figure out what to do with it because:  "You can't stop what's comin'...'" - No Country For Old Men |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:58:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exit polling showed 66% of Hispanics voted democrat in November, 2020. That is far better than blacks but still substantially in favor of communists. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The irony of posting that on THIS board is probably lost on most of the newer guys. Given not only the man that started it but his son as well. Also I am a first generation American born from a a Cuban defector that just finished my 20yrs in the Navy and hasn’t voted for a Liberal ever and neither have my siblings. My grandfather, a doctor, fled with my mother to avoid communism and despised socialist policies his whole life. Part of the problem with breaking through with some of these groups is the fact that some of you guys write them off out of ignorance. And the constant jabs at Hispanics, Catholics, Etc as if the groups are all the same doesn’t help either. It only serves to push them into the arms of the Dems because it proves their “racist white conservative” narrative. whites still in Europe are way more liberal than many hispanics in America, and it would be stupid to assume either group is all the same based on race... painting with a that broad of a brush is retarded. The Dems just tried and lost the FL largely because of the Hispanic population in FL. Why do you insist on the same mistake? -Mike Exit polling showed 66% of Hispanics voted democrat in November, 2020. That is far better than blacks but still substantially in favor of communists. Another problem with both legal and illegal 3rd World immigrants that no one talks about... perhaps because they've never seen it for themselves... When they come here, where do you think they live? With no money, no education, and few skills, they live where it's cheap. They live in the ghetto. Their children play in the streets with ghetto children. They go to school with ghetto children. Eventually, many adopt ghetto values and a ghetto lifestyle. For the Right, there is just no benefit to 3rd World immigration. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:58:57 PM EDT
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It's inevitable that our party politics will no longer become about ideology, but rather about ethnicity.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:59:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, this can be disproven in a simple Google search. https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-24.png And Hispanics in general should not be conflate with Cubans, who actually are quite patriotic. Here's the difference https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/FT_20.09.25_CubanVoters_01.png AND that IS the ONLY reason democrats want them over here. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:01:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But, but, but... natural conservatives! Another problem with both legal and illegal 3rd World immigrants that no one talks about... perhaps because they've never seen it for themselves... When they come here, where do you think they live? With no money, no education, and few skills, they live where it's cheap. They live in the ghetto. Their children play in the streets with ghetto children. They go to school with ghetto children. Eventually, many adopt ghetto values and a ghetto lifestyle. For the Right, there is just no benefit to 3rd World immigration. Most of America lives in a bubble......NO DOUBT about that. They just don't know of what you speak.....it is just that plain and simple. Unless you live it or work there for a long period of time a person simply cannot understand it deep down inside. To be fair I can understand that because understanding that is a very unpleasant experience. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:02:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's inevitable that our party politics will no longer become about ideology, but rather about ethnicity. During that same time period, our opponents embraced and weaponized it. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:03:16 PM EDT
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Well, god bless the former Cubans. We'll take more of those.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:06:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the last 50 years, white, conservative, Americans were taught to reject tribalism. During that same time period, our opponents embraced and weaponized it. You and I might be dust in the wind (well I most likely will be) before "bubble living" Americans realize the cultural, economic and social country that will result when black American values are the prevalent and controlling values, they will realize they were duped and very STUPID for thinking that that is a better way to "live long and prosper". Racist of me(?)........HELL NO.......just being honest and realistic based on what I have seen in real life and in real time. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:06:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the last 50 years, white, conservative, Americans were taught to reject tribalism. During that same time period, our opponents embraced and weaponized it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's inevitable that our party politics will no longer become about ideology, but rather about ethnicity. During that same time period, our opponents embraced and weaponized it. "Why aren't any white people applying to work this $50,000 a year landscaping job that has a 98% hispanic workforce?" |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:09:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of America lives in a bubble......NO DOUBT about that. They just don't know of what you speak.....it is just that plain and simple. Unless you live it or work there for a long period of time a person simply cannot understand it deep down inside. To be fair I can understand that because understanding that is a very unpleasant experience. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But, but, but... natural conservatives! Another problem with both legal and illegal 3rd World immigrants that no one talks about... perhaps because they've never seen it for themselves... When they come here, where do you think they live? With no money, no education, and few skills, they live where it's cheap. They live in the ghetto. Their children play in the streets with ghetto children. They go to school with ghetto children. Eventually, many adopt ghetto values and a ghetto lifestyle. For the Right, there is just no benefit to 3rd World immigration. Most of America lives in a bubble......NO DOUBT about that. They just don't know of what you speak.....it is just that plain and simple. Unless you live it or work there for a long period of time a person simply cannot understand it deep down inside. To be fair I can understand that because understanding that is a very unpleasant experience. The men would work day labor jobs for cash, while the women collected welfare. Between them, they lived better than where they came from. One day, we had a class of school kids visit the firehouse. None of them spoke English. None. Look at the stats on how damaging linguistic isolation is to chances for future success. Had an old lady on an EMS run, she'd been in America over 30 years... didn't speak English. Who do you think these people are going to vote for? They care fuck all for personal freedom, small government, and low taxes. The 1st and 2nd Amendments mean less than nothing to them. They share none of our values. And trust me... they have A LOT of fucking kids. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:11:41 PM EDT
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"Man who thought it was all so tiresome finds it can be more tiring than previously thought.jpg"
Importing more Hispanics won't create a reset because (whether you're evaluating IQ today, ethnic culture tomorrow, or regression to the mean 2 generations down the line) it progresses towards Parfit's Peach Trees dystopia as the castration of Faustian man. Getting it out in the open, it's beneficial to a different dream: intensifying labor inputs to maintain yield rates for investors (controlling most equity as a bloc, but individually underinvested, and pampered to expect high returns) in a stagnating technical environment. That's the rotten terminus of boomerism. It's not enough to short your own culture. The situation naturally mending as rising labor costs accelerate technological returns must be averted, and the human resource fields salted because gramps doesn't want to grow out of Woodstock. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:14:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You and I might be dust in the wind (well I most likely will be) before "bubble living" Americans realize the cultural, economic and social country that will result when black American values are the prevalent and controlling values, they will realize they were duped and very STUPID for thinking that that is a better way to "live long and prosper". Racist of me(?)........HELL NO.......just being honest and realistic based on what I have seen in real life and in real time. That's exactly where we are headed and I think that we are better than half the way there. It will be catastrophic in it's ramifications.  LOL....I'd rather live out my remaining years under something other than the Mandingo Madness so the Hispanic culture seems the better bargain to me.  |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:14:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spent 15 years working in a Mexican/Central American neighborhood with huge illegal population. The men would work day labor jobs for cash, while the women collected welfare. Between them, they lived better than where they came from. One day, we had a class of school kids visit the firehouse. None of them spoke English. None. Look at the stats on how damaging linguistic isolation is to chances for future success. Had an old lady on an EMS run, she'd been in America over 30 years... didn't speak English. Who do you think these people are going to vote for? They care fuck all for personal freedom, small government, and low taxes. The 1st and 2nd Amendments mean less than nothing to them. They share none of our values. And trust me... they have A LOT of fucking kids. Well there you go. You experienced it in real time and real life for YEARS........you developed a deep down understanding that people who live in "bubbles" have no hope of ever understanding. They are naive and ignorant and for some dumbass reason their ideology has become so prevalent in social arenas that is it destroying our country as it was designed to operate. Oh well, you reap what you sow I guess and at this late stage of my life I can only shake my head and wonder how could they have been so easily duped by the Marxists. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:15:31 PM EDT
[#40]
They may not care to reduce the size of Government, but that doesn't matter at this point.
What they may do is help to serve as a counter to the cultural lunacy which is destroying us right now. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's exactly where we are headed and I think that we are better than half the way there. It will be catastrophic in it's ramifications. LOL....I'd rather live out my remaining years under something other than the Mandingo Madness so the Hispanic culture seems the better bargain to me. Fair enough. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:17:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They may not care to reduce the size of Government, but that doesn't matter at this point. What they may do is help to serve as a counter to the cultural lunacy which is destroying us right now. No, they won't. It serves their interest to perpetuate the cultural conflicts. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:20:04 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted: I know this will not sit well with some here but here goes. My opinion has changed regarding our "recent Hispanic immigrants". In fact they may be the only hope left for America given the ever increasing number of them voting against the dems and their communism. Let's face it, they know communism and banana republics when they see them. Now I'm not so ignorant to know that they will: * Take full advantage of every freebee offered them.....You know, like "real" minority Americans do. * Fail to assimilate until at least a generation is born here.....No different than any other non English speaking immigrant group throughout our history. * Continue to take US jobs, work under the table, and send $$$ to their relatives in their home countries. * Shirk many existing laws. (most of which are anti-freedom anyway) What America does gain from them is: * A strong religious (abet mostly Catholic) sense. * Live in and promote much more cohesive family units than certain segments of our own minority population. * Possess a very powerful work ethic. Now I did not change my opinion because I am friends with any of them, only from what I have observed over the past few years in my AO. I don't know but working hard, raising a cohesive family, and wanting to be left the fuck alone are pretty much what used to be a American idea. If that's the way you really feel you should tell a family of Mexicans that just jumped the border that they can come live with you. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:20:44 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's exactly where we are headed and I think that we are better than half the way there. It will be catastrophic in it's ramifications. LOL....I'd rather live out my remaining years under something other than the Mandingo Madness so the Hispanic culture seems the better bargain to me. Emigrate to Central America and become an expat. Boomers I know do this. Cheap cost of living, a nice house, servants, and you can still suck down social security checks. You'll die in a foreign land, but at least you won't have the shame of helping turn your descendants' land into an alien one. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:21:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha! Given the body of work repressing our freedoms by "our" culture over the last 20 years I'd not be looking down my nose at the "warts" of others....Just sayin'. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Our culture is dying because it's been infected by theirs. Ha! Given the body of work repressing our freedoms by "our" culture over the last 20 years I'd not be looking down my nose at the "warts" of others....Just sayin'. Welp, opinions are like assholes I suppose... |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:26:50 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, this can be disproven in a simple Google search. https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-24.png And Hispanics in general should not be conflate with Cubans, who actually are quite patriotic. Here's the difference https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/FT_20.09.25_CubanVoters_01.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 99% are hardworking, care about family, and just want to be left alone, believing in life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with the ability to own and possess firearms. They're more american than half this country. And yes I have many who are friends. Again, this can be disproven in a simple Google search. https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-24.png And Hispanics in general should not be conflate with Cubans, who actually are quite patriotic. Here's the difference https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/FT_20.09.25_CubanVoters_01.png I suspect Venezuelan and Nicaraguan immigrants would show similar numbers to the Cubans, unfortunately there aren't a ton of them here relatively speaking. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:28:45 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For the last 50 years, white, conservative, Americans were taught to reject tribalism. During that same time period, our opponents embraced and weaponized it. what I meant with party politics becoming defined by ethnicity, rather than ideology is this: If you go to Europe (at least the old Europe of 1999-2003), the ideologies of the right-wing there were basically "We don't want foreigners taking our benefits!", while in the US, the ideology of the right wing was more ideologically opposed to the IDEA of benefits itself, rather than focusing on "the foreigners are taking OUR benefits". As things fracture, we'll become more like European right-wing parties, more "blood and soil" ideologies, rather than classical liberalism. Oh well. youcan'tstopwhat'scoming.jpeg |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:35:46 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what I meant with party politics becoming defined by ethnicity, rather than ideology is this: If you go to Europe (at least the old Europe of 1999-2003), the ideologies of the right-wing there were basically "We don't want foreigners taking our benefits!", while in the US, the ideology of the right wing was more ideologically opposed to the IDEA of benefits itself, rather than focusing on "the foreigners are taking OUR benefits". As things fracture, we'll become more like European right-wing parties, more "blood and soil" ideologies, rather than classical liberalism. Oh well. youcan'tstopwhat'scoming.jpeg There is probably a good chance you see that change during the braindead asshole's presidency. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:38:18 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Emigrate to Central America and become an expat. Boomers I know do this. Cheap cost of living, a nice house, servants, and you can still suck down social security checks. You'll die in a foreign land, but at least you won't have the shame of helping turn your descendants' land into an alien one. It's almost worth considering given that the state/country I was born and raised in is on the express elevator to Hell but I don't suspect I will, more likely I'll just die in place. That said as far as the 87 things I worry about at any given time goes Hispanic immigration is no longer even on my radar. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:43:22 PM EDT
[#50]
Their cultural differences and general lack of desire to assimilate will continue to tear the fabric of this country.
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