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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:19:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet a lot of them didn't because it exceeds the yearly limit for salary, which was $168k last I checked. Meh, real LEO's and LEA's are getting cap letters and waivers.  
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:21:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1640/EF4E8D1C-9957-4309-B528-617F2B25657A-1781763.jpg Each of those buildings has access controls and other security functions associated with it (though Supreme Court has its own police force as well). They also have investigative functions, a mission to respond to a much larger area than just the capitol compound, and 435 high maintenance charges (and their families) for protective duties nationwide. Thanks for clarifying that. @Bohr_Adam |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:22:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: did you think, before posting this? Do you always post smart ass non helpful commentary? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:23:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 65k to help Nancy Pelosi off the toilet. No thanks 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:23:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From the linked article: “When Black Lives Matter rioters, incited by Democrats and the media, besieged the White House, 60 members of the Secret Service’s Uniformed Division were injured holding the line while President Trump and his family were taken to a bunker. 11 members of the Service were hospitalized due to the violence of the BLM riot that Democrats falsely claimed was peaceful.” And how many of them were arrested and charged??????????????????????????? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:23:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude, it's GD. What do you expect? Yet another smart ass non helpful commenter. Related? 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm surprised it's not more. The county PD where I used to live is around the same size and their budget is $530 million. The neighboring county PD has approx 2,400 cops and a $894 million budget. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: it's 2000 officers with an annual budget of $460,000,000!! I'm surprised it's not more. The county PD where I used to live is around the same size and their budget is $530 million. The neighboring county PD has approx 2,400 cops and a $894 million budget. Capitol police do not have to worry about a lot of building upkeep, janitors, and the like. They also do not have an Air Wing, a jail, or a huge pool of vehicles. Their primary jurisdiction is pretty small and crawling with cops and feds from other agencies. Contrary to popular belief few Congress scum have USCP details. Most who would need them do not want sworn .le guarding them. Hence repeated instances of personal body guards getting popped for firearms violations. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you always post smart ass non helpful commentary? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: did you think, before posting this? Do you always post smart ass non helpful commentary? Always is fairly often, like most of the time... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:34:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. That's not how it works. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: $460,000,000 budget with 2000 officers and still threatened by an unarmed woman average salary: 225K Lol. That's not how it works. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:35:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Police, like the Military gets a cross section of society that manages to weasel their ways through the selection process. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Back during the mid to late 90's, I was stationed at Marine Corps Base Quantico, as permanent personnel at the Officer Candidate School. Fun fact, OCS is just down the road from the air facility that's home to helicopter squadron, HMX-1, who's mission is to fly the President. And as we know, Marine One is a helicopter.  Anyway, during the time of year officer candidates were not being trained at OCS, the Marine Corps allowed the Washington D.C. Capital Police to use the barracks and training areas. I don't know if they still do this or not, as I said, this was in the mid to late 90's. But every class of Capital Police that came through, they always had a few who were kicked out for stealing from other police officers. They even suggested that the Marines provide a firewatch for the squadbays they were using because they couldn't trust their own people. I know we did it for at least one class, because I was Corporal of the Guard one Sunday. DC law enforcement are some of the most corrupt in the country since LA Sheriffs or NYPD of the 1980s. For years the DCPD did not even do background checks. Rumors were USCP was the same when it came to checking boxes. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:38:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have no idea what we're talking about but we're doing it in numbers, and we agree with each other. Oh, look how smart we are! Nobody "politically connected" in DC is working a law enforcement job. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. Bingo! We have no idea what we're talking about but we're doing it in numbers, and we agree with each other. Oh, look how smart we are! Nobody "politically connected" in DC is working a law enforcement job. Harry Reid started out with the USCP when he was going to Liar School.....law school. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:39:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:39:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah. But I would bet that Atlanta has to spend more on cars and gas.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://saportareport.com/atlanta-city-council-approves-budget-it-does-not-defund-the-police/sections/reports/maggie/ Atlanta's P.D. budget is $218 milliion... "By a 13-2 vote, Atlanta City Council approved a budget for the year that starts in July with proportions similar to this year’s budget. About one-third of general fund money, or about $218 million, will go to the Atlanta Police Department." Yeah. But I would bet that Atlanta has to spend more on cars and gas. Atlanta has helicopters and those suckers aint cheap and neither are the pilots. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:29:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 2,000 officers for one building? Plus seven office buildings, a couple admin buildings, a residence hall for pages, and its own power plant. I couldn't guess the total amount of space, but it's a ton. DC is one of the most high-rent cities in the country, and the starting wage is absolute shit. I'm sure there are also plenty of cushy appointments for connected people to live well on the public dime with no real skills. Put those two factors together, and I have high confidence that a real insurrection would be incredibly successful, incredibly fast. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:31:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: average salary: 225K When do they get that pay raise? https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/588077400 |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:34:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DC law enforcement are some of the most corrupt in the country since LA Sheriffs or NYPD of the 1980s. For years the DCPD did not even do background checks. Rumors were USCP was the same when it came to checking boxes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Back during the mid to late 90's, I was stationed at Marine Corps Base Quantico, as permanent personnel at the Officer Candidate School. Fun fact, OCS is just down the road from the air facility that's home to helicopter squadron, HMX-1, who's mission is to fly the President. And as we know, Marine One is a helicopter. Anyway, during the time of year officer candidates were not being trained at OCS, the Marine Corps allowed the Washington D.C. Capital Police to use the barracks and training areas. I don't know if they still do this or not, as I said, this was in the mid to late 90's. But every class of Capital Police that came through, they always had a few who were kicked out for stealing from other police officers. They even suggested that the Marines provide a firewatch for the squadbays they were using because they couldn't trust their own people. I know we did it for at least one class, because I was Corporal of the Guard one Sunday. DC law enforcement are some of the most corrupt in the country since LA Sheriffs or NYPD of the 1980s. For years the DCPD did not even do background checks. Rumors were USCP was the same when it came to checking boxes. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 7:23:49 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Always ways around those limits. Ask any .gov employee. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 7:28:46 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, real LEO's and LEA's are getting cap letters and waivers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bet a lot of them didn't because it exceeds the yearly limit for salary, which was $168k last I checked. Meh, real LEO's and LEA's are getting cap letters and waivers. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:16:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With benefits and retirement I would figure each starting officer cost $90,000-$95,000 a year plus any overtime. They are Feds, I doubt it has a contributory retirement plan where the members and the employers contribute to a pension fund, I bet it's like military retirement, straight out of the taxpayers pocket and straight into the retirees account. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:20:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are Feds, I doubt it has a contributory retirement plan where the members and the employers contribute to a pension fund, I bet it's like military retirement, straight out of the taxpayers pocket and straight into the retirees account. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: With benefits and retirement I would figure each starting officer cost $90,000-$95,000 a year plus any overtime. They are Feds, I doubt it has a contributory retirement plan where the members and the employers contribute to a pension fund, I bet it's like military retirement, straight out of the taxpayers pocket and straight into the retirees account. It's the same basic benefit plan and TSP mix of most other Feds. FERS. https://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/fers-information/ |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:20:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Atlanta has helicopters and those suckers aint cheap and neither are the pilots. Maybe Atlanta is an exception but most LE helicopter pilots are just regular officers getting officer pay. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:09:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For you union types maybe. I haven't seen one in my 27 years except the OT cap provision being lifted at Customs. Of course, you guys were bringing back retirees and letting them double dip for a while. What union?  (I have 5 months of probabtion left) |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:19:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe Atlanta is an exception but most LE helicopter pilots are just regular officers getting officer pay. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Atlanta has helicopters and those suckers aint cheap and neither are the pilots. Maybe Atlanta is an exception but most LE helicopter pilots are just regular officers getting officer pay. Certs, training, and insurance for a pilot in .le are significant. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:00:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2,000 officers for one building? It's 16 acres and a number of buildings. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:26:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: average salary: 225K Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $460,000,000 budget with 2000 officers and still threatened by an unarmed woman average salary: 225K You have other operating costs, not just salaries. Vehicles, equipment, maintenance, logistics. Then the personnel costs - workmans comp, SS payments, insurance. The actual gross pay of each officer is likely less than 100k a year - in line with what most larger agencies pay. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:21:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Capitol is a huge complex, with a lot of checkpoints to man. And they protect the Speaker and certain other leaders 24/7. It shouldn’t be that big and complicated. But there it is and here we are. Not if you put a big fence up with razor wire on top and NG troops with M4's guarding it. Then you could restrict it to one or two highly fortified entrances. You could even put someone with a laser up on the top of the rotunda. Actually it would be much easier to just block off all the streets and bridges leading into DC. Maybe make the Potomac into a moat. Is it big enough/deep enough to get an aircraft carrier up there close to the white house and capitol? Maybe one of the new Wasp class. Starting to make sense... |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:53:26 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. Up until the 1970s there were a number of political appointees among the ranks of the USCP. But as they quit or retired, they were replaced by qualified, trained civil service officers. The political appointees were generally retired military, and were assigned to posts that were "non-critical". |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:06:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm surprised it's not more. The county PD where I used to live is around the same size and their budget is $530 million. The neighboring county PD has approx 2,400 cops and a $894 million budget. Probably far less vehicles and far less risk of damages to those vehicles. I read somewhere that it was over 2,300 employees which would include administrators. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:17:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They sure checked my entire life's history when I applied for both agencies back in the mid 00s. Infiltration attempt? Why you sly fox! |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:38:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't hate the player, hate the game. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. 
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Posted: 1/17/2021 7:48:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's 16 acres and a number of buildings. And overlapping schedules, shifts, leave, admin gigs, training, TDY's, etc. I actually thought they would have more, honestly. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:23:02 AM EDT
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Hand picked monkeys
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:29:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: It's 16 acres and a number of buildings. Quoted: And overlapping schedules, shifts, leave, admin gigs, training, TDY's, etc. I actually thought they would have more, honestly. I had no idea it was that expansive of an operation, as I’ve never been there. Thanks for the informative and non sarcastic comments unlike those other goons who assume every member should already know this stuff. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:35:11 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm surprised it's not more. The county PD where I used to live is around the same size and their budget is $530 million. The neighboring county PD has approx 2,400 cops and a $894 million budget. have to sleep on firehouse couches.... 
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:19:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I was arrested at the Capitol, the amount of unimpressive milk sops that I saw was eye opening. Btw, the tunnel system underneath is pretty neat. Looked ancient. It does look really cool. I didn't expect there to be a subway underneath the capitol. My mother was a Senate staffer in the 70s to a prominent senator, so when I went as a kid I got the behind the scenes tour because he remembered her after some 15 years. I was always into history at a young age, so my 10th birthday gift was a trip to DC to get this VIP tour, topped with having a hamburger with a senator in the Capitol building. Which means my mother probably was a senator's mistress.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:02:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It does look really cool. I didn't expect there to be a subway underneath the capitol. My mother was a Senate staffer in the 70s to a prominent senator, so when I went as a kid I got the behind the scenes tour because he remembered her after some 15 years. I was always into history at a young age, so my 10th birthday gift was a trip to DC to get this VIP tour, topped with having a hamburger with a senator in the Capitol building. Which means my mother probably was a senator's mistress. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When I was arrested at the Capitol, the amount of unimpressive milk sops that I saw was eye opening. Btw, the tunnel system underneath is pretty neat. Looked ancient. It does look really cool. I didn't expect there to be a subway underneath the capitol. My mother was a Senate staffer in the 70s to a prominent senator, so when I went as a kid I got the behind the scenes tour because he remembered her after some 15 years. I was always into history at a young age, so my 10th birthday gift was a trip to DC to get this VIP tour, topped with having a hamburger with a senator in the Capitol building. Which means my mother probably was a senator's mistress. Either than or she knew who was and covered for him. I know a woman who got her nephew into a college by making a phone call to a Senator after he was rejected. She had been a secretary in the Senate office and knew where all the skeletons were. Friends in low places are frequently better than friends in high places, they know all the secrets. Mainly because their job was to keep things secret. |
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