[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Red Dawn (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/14/2004 6:32:28 PM EDT
| I just rented this movie because a lot of you recommended it on the conservative movies thread. Good movie I have to say, I almost cant believe hollywood would make a movie so pro-American, especially one with the likes of Charlie Sheen in it. Overall I give it two thumbs way up. |
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Quoted: I just rented this movie because a lot of you recommended it on the conservative movies thread. Good movie I have to say, I almost cant believe Hollywood would make a movie so pro-American, especially one with the likes of Charlie Sheen in it. Overall I give it two thumbs way up. Remember it was made 20 years ago in 1984. One of my favorite movies! EDIT to add, I had to pop it in the DVD player. |
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redwolf8784: Red Dawn was directed by John Milius, he's a NRA member and sits on the NRA board of directors. This movie was made in the days when many of the actors & actresses weren't as well known as they are today. Even anti-gun Mike Gross played a red neck gunner in the movie Tremors I a number of years ago. BTW: In Iraq, when the Army destroyed an Iraqi tank, the soldiers painted the word "wolverines" on it in reference to the movie Red Dawn. Some of the foreign news media didn't quite understand why it was done because they have never seen the movie. |
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Quoted: BTW: In Iraq, when the Army destroyed an Iraqi tank, the soldiers painted the word "wolverines" on it in reference to the movie Red Dawn. Some of the foreign news media didn't quite understand why it was done because they have never seen the movie. Awesome, just goddamn f*cking awesome. |
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BTW: In Iraq, when the Army destroyed an Iraqi tank, the soldiers painted the word "wolverines" on it in reference to the movie Red Dawn. Some of the foreign news media didn't quite understand why it was done because they have never seen the movie. Didnt the capture of Saddam involve something Wolverine a s well? |
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John Milius, dude. He wanted to be an Army officer, but for health reasons couldn't do it. He became a surfer and screenwriter instead. He's the writer and director of Red Dawn. He's mainly a writer, but he directs here and there. Check out his work: [b]# King Conan: Crown of Iron (2005) (in production) # Son Tay Raid, The (2004) (in production) # Jornada del muerte (2004) (pre-production) (screenplay) ... aka Journey of the Deadman (2004) # "Rome" (2005) TV Series (writer) # Rough Riders (1997) (TV) (written by) # Clear and Present Danger (1994) (screenplay) # Geronimo: An American Legend (1993) (screenplay) (story) # Farewell to the King (1989) (screenplay) # Extreme Prejudice (1987) (story) # "Miami Vice" (1984) TV Series (writer) # Red Dawn (1984) # Conan the Barbarian (1982) (screenplay) # 1941 (1979) (story) # Apocalypse Now (1979) ... aka Apocalypse Now Redux (2001) (International: English title: longer version) # Big Wednesday (1978) ... aka Summer of Innocence (1978) # Jaws (1975) (Indianapolis monlogue) (uncredited) # Wind and the Lion, The (1975) # Melvin Purvis: G-Man (1974) (TV) (story) ... aka G-Man (1974) (TV) ... aka Legend of Machine Gun Kelly, The (1974) (TV) # Magnum Force (1973) (screenplay) (story) # Dillinger (1973) # Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean, The (1972) # Jeremiah Johnson (1972) (screenplay) # Dirty Harry (1971) (uncredited)[/b] [url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0587518[/url] Good stuff. He's the caveman of Hollywood. Check out Rough Riders, if you've never seen it. Great movie about Teddy Roosevelt in Cuba. It's not cited here, but he wrote the part of "Das Boot" where the u-boat is about to pass through the Strait of Gibraltar. |
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Quoted: Quoted: BTW: In Iraq, when the Army destroyed an Iraqi tank, the soldiers painted the word "wolverines" on it in reference to the movie Red Dawn. Some of the foreign news media didn't quite understand why it was done because they have never seen the movie. Awesome, just goddamn f*cking awesome. I read in an interview with John Milius, he was kind of surprised too, because a lot of the soldiers were really young when the movie came out, but Milius beamed very proudly that the soldiers remembered his movie. Quoted: BTW: In Iraq, when the Army destroyed an Iraqi tank, the soldiers painted the word "wolverines" on it in reference to the movie Red Dawn. Some of the foreign news media didn't quite understand why it was done because they have never seen the movie. Didnt the capture of Saddam involve something Wolverine a s well? You know I don't exactly remember, but something way back in the back of my mind says that there were some reference to the movie Red Dawn. Anybody remember for sure? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: BTW: In Iraq, when the Army destroyed an Iraqi tank, the soldiers painted the word "wolverines" on it in reference to the movie Red Dawn. Some of the foreign news media didn't quite understand why it was done because they have never seen the movie. Awesome, just goddamn f*cking awesome. I read in an interview with John Milius, he was kind of surprised too, because a lot of the soldiers were really young when the movie came out, but Milius beamed very proudly that the soldiers remembered his movie. Quoted: BTW: In Iraq, when the Army destroyed an Iraqi tank, the soldiers painted the word "wolverines" on it in reference to the movie Red Dawn. Some of the foreign news media didn't quite understand why it was done because they have never seen the movie. Didnt the capture of Saddam involve something Wolverine a s well? You know I don't exactly remember, but something way back in the back of my mind says that there were some reference to the movie Red Dawn. Anybody remember for sure? I think the search areas were called Wolverine 1&2 but I'm not sure. Or perhaps the units involved. |
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Gross was in the tv version on scifi too. Quoted: redwolf8784: Red Dawn was directed by John Milius, he's a NRA member and sits on the NRA board of directors. This movie was made in the days when many of the actors & actresses weren't as well known as they are today. Even anti-gun Mike Gross played a red neck gunner in the movie Tremors I a number of years ago. BTW: In Iraq, when the Army destroyed an Iraqi tank, the soldiers painted the word "wolverines" on it in reference to the movie Red Dawn. Some of the foreign news media didn't quite understand why it was done because they have never seen the movie. the tank in question [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/136299.jpg[/img] Saddam was captured in Operation Wolverine General Ray Odierno explained that Intelligence gathered from mid-level Saddam associates and Hussein family members gave the 4th Infantry all the information they needed to roll Operation Wolverine [url]http://fredsworldevents.blogspot.com/[/url] |
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More about john Milius, director of Red Dawn [b]Trade mark[/b] Frequently casts Gerry Lopez. Films often reflect his conservative political beliefs. [b]Trivia[/b] Graduated from USC School of Cinema-Television (1967) Is an avid gun collector. Wrote the line "Go ahead, make my day". for Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry. wrote "U.S.S. Indianappolis" scene in "Jaws" Won Lone Star award in 1998 for best film "Rough Riders" Member, board of directors, National Rifle Association. Is a personal friend of the Coen brothers and was the inspiration for the character of Walter in the Big Lebowski, The (1998). Milius, an avid gun collector, insisted that part of his payment for writing Jeremiah Johnson (1972) be in antique weapons. [b]Personal quotes[/b] [on being rejected for military service due to asthma]: "I'm a very efficient director - it's my training in military tactics. I've trained my whole life to be a general but I never could. So I became the next best thing, a movie director." [on the violence in Conan the Barbarian being rather essential]: "It's not that violent, although I was happy not to get an X rating. But if you said 'Conan the Barbarian' was rated PG, people would feel cheated. We weren't making 'Conan's Divorce', you know." [b]Biography from Leonard Maltin's Movie Encyclopedia:[/b] This distinctive filmmaker has been called "Mr. Macho," "General Milius," the "George Patton of film directors" and the "Herman Goering of film directors" because of his high-octane movies populated by characters whose political leanings would not win them positions in Bill Clinton's cabinet. Rejected by the Army because of chronic asthma, Milius went to the USC film school and made a prize-winning short, "Marcello, I'm So Bored," a satire of Italian art-house films. He went on to become a prolific screenwriter starting with The Devil's Eight (1969), Evel Knievel (1972), The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean, Jeremiah Johnson (both 1972), and the second "Dirty Harry" movie, Magnum Force (1973, cowritten with Michael Cimino). Dillinger (1973), his directorial debut, was a violent, romanticized look at the famous gangster, but The Wind and the Lion (1975), a rousing modern epic, showed Milius' growth as a director and his concern with myths, codes of honor, and individual choice. Big Wednesday (1978) lovingly evoked Milius' own days of California surfing, and Apocalypse Now (1979), an adaptation of Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness" which Milius had begun years earlier for Francis Ford Coppola, earned him an Adapted Screenplay Oscar nomination with Coppola. His next films as writer and director featured a variety of heroes who willingly embraced violence to serve their purposes: Conan the Barbarian (1982, cowritten with Oliver Stone), the teens turned guerilla fighters in Red Dawn (1984), the army deserter turned rebel leader in Farewell to the King (1989), and the Vietnam bombardiers in Flight of the Intruder (1991). His most recent screenwriting credits: Geronimo (1993, story and coscenarist) and Clear and Present Danger (1994, coscenarist). Milius also executive produced Hardcore (1979) and Used Cars (1980), produced Uncommon Valor (1983), and did uncredited rewrite work on the original Dirty Harry (1971). He also wrote the TV movie Melvin Purvis-G-Man (1974) and the great scene in Jaws (1975) with Robert Shaw describing the sinking of the Indianapolis Milius wrote the best quote from Apocalypse Now: CHARLIE DON'T SURF! |
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Quoted: Gross was in the tv version on scifi too. Quoted: redwolf8784: Red Dawn was directed by John Milius, he's a NRA member and sits on the NRA board of directors. This movie was made in the days when many of the actors & actresses weren't as well known as they are today. Even anti-gun Mike Gross played a red neck gunner in the movie Tremors I a number of years ago. BTW: In Iraq, when the Army destroyed an Iraqi tank, the soldiers painted the word "wolverines" on it in reference to the movie Red Dawn. Some of the foreign news media didn't quite understand why it was done because they have never seen the movie. the tank in question [url]http://www.hunt101.com/img/136299.jpg[/url] Saddam was captured in Operation Wolverine General Ray Odierno explained that Intelligence gathered from mid-level Saddam associates and Hussein family members gave the 4th Infantry all the information they needed to roll Operation Wolverine [url]http://fredsworldevents.blogspot.com/[/url] Anyone know where I can get a high-res version of that photo, say 2048x1524 or at least 1600x1200? I'd love to have it... |
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[url]http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,,2-10-1460_1459461,00.html[/url] Code name from '84 movie 14/12/2003 18:30 - (SA) Washington - "Operation Red Dawn," the code name for the US raid which resulted in the capture of Saddam Hussein, appears to have been inspired by a 1984 film in which US teenagers battle a Soviet invasion of the United States. Announcing Saddam's capture, Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, the top US military commander in Iraq, said Operation Red Dawn was conducted by US troops against locations identified as "Wolverine One" and "Wolverine Two." The former Iraqi leader was found, according to Sanchez, hiding in a hole at the location known as "Wolverine Two." "Red Dawn," starring Patrick Swayze, Jennifer Grey, Lea Thompson, Charlie Sheen, Harry Dean Stanton and Powers Boothe, takes place in a typical small town in the midwest of the United States at the outbreak of World War III. Following an invasion of the United States by communist Cuban, Nicaraguan and Soviet forces a group of high school students band together to form a guerrilla resistance unit known as the "Wolverines," after the bear-like creature known for its ferocity. The gun-toting teenage US guerrillas spend the film, made at the height of the Cold War, fighting back heroically against the more heavily armed invaders. Directed by John Milius, who co-wrote Francis Ford Coppola's "Apocalypse Now," the movie is something of a cult film among right-wing US extremists and is held up as a Second Amendment cautionary tale by some opponents of gun control. The Second Amendment to the US Constitution regards the right of the populace to bear arms. "A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed," it says. |
| Red Dawn holds an interesting place in my life. First, it really influenced my decision to join the military when I got old enough (along with Rambo). Second, one night in Dec 2000, I watched it before I went to bed and the next morning I was hauled into the First Sergeants office where I found out that my father had died. I haven't watched it again since. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Didnt the capture of Saddam involve something Wolverine a s well? i believe the name of the Op. was 'Red Dawn' The units involved were code-named Wolverine One and Wolverine Two. I remember the foreign press thought that "Wolverine One and Wolverine Two" was in reference to the movie X-Men & X2. There were some video clips of the news media saying this before it was cleared up a few days later... with the mention of "Red Dawn'. lol |
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Quoted: Holy shit I'm getting old. I snuck into that movie when I was 11, because it was rated PG-13 (one of the first ones with this rating) I saw it while I was in basic training. My buddy and I looked at each other and agreed it was pretty much what we were being taught. The best part was we got to actually try out the tactics with real M-16's and M-60's [:D] |
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Some say it still could. Lot's of illegals coming in from the south now. Maybe he should update it a bit...BLUE DAWN... [titles flashed on screen] Muslim countries put into positions of power in the United Nations. UN agendas adopted by most of world. Supreme Court declares Second Amendment applies only to US military. Confiscations of civilian-owned firearms take place. Most Americans are disarmed. Ammunition sales illegal. Underground sales of firearms and ammunition at an all time high. EU and UN effectively merge. UN leadership controls Europe and much of the rest of the world. American Constitution declared "too radical" by vote of United Nations. America isolated through land and sea blockades by UN forces. Alaska and Hawaiian islands taken over by UN. UN troops known to be massing north and south. UN issues ultimatum - turn control over to us. supreme court advises capitulation. president kerry turns over command of US military forces and installations to UN command. American populace decalred to be UN subjects. Good thing it's all fiction... |
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The movie Red Dawn was at the top of the liberal Hate list for years....I hope it still is.They do so hate the concept of "Bad press"for their comrades'Armys of Liberation. Flight of the Intruder was a big stone in the liberal shoe as well,because it failed to show international communism in a favorible light. |
Yep. You know, that movie really WAS good. I'm gonna have to go get the DVD... ETA: BTW, Red Dawn was the FIRST movie with the PG-13 rating. I still remember the outcry over the "violence" surrounding the drinking of the deer blood. 
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IIRC, Michael Gross was already rabidly anti-gun - he played Burt Gummer for laughs & shock-value, i.e., how he & most on the "left" view most of us here. FWIW, he still plays the character, or at least has in the past year - there was an on-going weekly series on Sci-Fi as recently as last year and Tremors 4 was released direct-to-video a few months back. He was the only actor in all of them. Edited to add:
www.filmcritic.com/misc/emporium.nsf/95a45e26914c25ff862562bb006a85f2/9cc759a3a24aa1ff88256ace00062813?OpenDocument  Anyway, I love the movie too - please carry on...
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