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Wouldn't shock me. They don't seem to have a grasp on self-defense laws and pointing guns at people.

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yeah, best to just hide inside and hope they just tear some shit up, rather that burn your home down, or come in and do whatever the fuck they want to you and your wife...........................

yeah, simply hiding inside and riding the hope train is a great plan................

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i dont blame them for wanting to defend their home / standing up to the crowd, but id not have done it the way they did it. walking out to sit on the porch and cleaning a rifle with a second loaded rifle leaning against the wall, while the wife shot video of the protestors while calling 911,  would have accomplished the same thing. or having a rifle conceiled under a blanket on your knees as you drink your coffee.

protestor.  " whats under that blanket? "
home owner.. " fuck around and find out"

protestors light a molotov, or try to attack you, and you shoot them with wife getting it all on video, they are kind of fucked. its for this reason im installing a security / camera system soon, so i can have proof of what actually happened on my property, vs what someone else claimed happened. its hard to refute video proof, proving you acted legally to actual threats, its also useful for prosecuting people who threaten you, tresspass, etc..

they might still have charged you, but it would have been a lot harder to prove intent to threaten, sitting and calmly cleaning your rifle, or sipping coffee with a conceiled rifle vs waiving guns around, pointing them at the crowd and screaming threats at them.  they SHOULD have been able to start shooting tresspassers as soon as they ignored warnings to leave, IMHO, as property rights should be absolute in my opinion, and the right to defend them absolute, and someone breaking the law should have no legal recourse or ability to sue... but unfortunately thats not the world we live in today. people video everything, and plenty of bleeding heart, politically motivated government agents are more than willing to ruin your life, even when your in the right legally. what might get you praise in the news in one area, might get you life in prison in another area, optics are always important IMHO, and you had best try to have good optics in your favor if shit goes sideways.  

a 60 year old man running around outraged, waving a gun around, and screaming threats will not get nearly as much compassion in the media / court proceedings as a 60 year old man appearing meek , feeble and disabled, who draws a weapon in fear for his life at the last minute as a horde of angry people decend on him on his own property after asking them to leave for example. or the elderly feable wife shooting them from a window as they attack her unarmed husband.

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fuck those cops who are "being forced to carry out the order by St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner" grow some balls and stand up for the oath you took!

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WTF is with you people?  That doesn't really matter, since the invaders were already IN THEIR HOUSE essentially now does it?

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bUt dErE LiBeRuHlZ...

The Twitter told me so.

You guys have gotta stand by these folks.  You may not love everything about them, but they are the example being made to keep you in line.

Besides, it's not like we don't have a liberal former Democrat in the White House getting your support already.  These people have actually fought back against the leftists; they've done a hell of a lot more to stop them than just about anyone here.

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If we’ve moved into the “sending messages” phase, then circuit attorney Kimberly Gardner should come home to the smoking basement where her house used to stand.

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The victims released a statement specifically stating that they support the communist mob.
Verbatim: "We are Black Lives Matter people".

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i dont blame them for wanting to defend their home / standing up to the crowd, but id not have done it the way they did it. walking out to sit on the porch and cleaning a rifle with a second loaded rifle leaning against the wall, while the wife shot video of the protestors while calling 911,  would have accomplished the same thing. or having a rifle conceiled under a blanket on your knees as you drink your coffee.

protestor.  " whats under that blanket? "
home owner.. " fuck around and find out"

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BLM tards have the right to self defense too.

Just because we believe a group is wrong, does not mean we get to take their rights away. That is exactly what the other side does.

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This is politically motivated. However my suspicion is
-protesters walk through gate, it's not damaged in the beginning, they're passing by on the sidewalk street. The gate is frequently left unlocked and people who don't own property there frequently walk through. They have no idea who the McCloskeys are
-protesters are walking by, McCloskey's have a history of getting into arguments over the gate area. There's a lawsuit over who owns it-they claim they have gained exclusive control of the gate from their neighbors, they've pulled guns on people over who owns the gate before
-McCloskeys come out and yell that protesters are on "their" property. Protesters yell back "fuck you whitey! And fuck your little dog too" etc
-McCloskeys go back inside and get guns And come back out. Wife walks up and points her "pistol she knows doesn't work [wink wink]" at protesters while arguing continues. Protesters also get onto lawn area that McCloskeys do legally own for sure and threaten them
-protesters wander off out the other end of the private street (not sure if that was gated at time) after they break the gate near McCloskey house (or came back the same way?)

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A truly Tier 1 lawyer is much more than that. I employ six or seven, at last count, for various purposes. My cheapest runs about $215/hr and the most expensive is a federal contract specialist at Latham-Watkins who gets a tidy $1330/hr.

And he's worth it.

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How many of those "protesters" have been charged with trespassing ? I'm just curious

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That is literally not what the home owner said.

“the threats happened probably after we got the guns.”

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According to MO law they could’ve shot every one of the fucking protestors and been 100% justified. When will the State step in?

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How many of those "protesters" have been charged with trespassing ? I'm just curious

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We only.lose every time because people like you put the burden of absolute perfection on our side and let the communists do as they please.

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It seems we have conflicting information

https://fox6now.com/2020/06/29/attorney-armed-protesters-broke-iron-gate-threatened-st-louis-couple-before-they-drew-their-guns/https://fox6now.com/2020/06/29/attorney-armed-protesters-broke-iron-gate-threatened-st-louis-couple-before-they-drew-their-guns/

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No one without training should be allowed to defend themselves, then

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It seems we have conflicting information

https://fox6now.com/2020/06/29/attorney-armed-protesters-broke-iron-gate-threatened-st-louis-couple-before-they-drew-their-guns/https://fox6now.com/2020/06/29/attorney-armed-protesters-broke-iron-gate-threatened-st-louis-couple-before-they-drew-their-guns/

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He's fucking lawyer and he's now changing his story .



"The McCloskeys, he said, were hesitant to come forward with the full story out of fear that they would “disparage the importance of Black Lives Matter.”

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Would you skeptics say the same about black homeowners confronting a Klanbake marching through a black neighborhood on the way to burn down a specific negro's house?  Book, far better they remain unseen indoors, so the mob can operate unopposed against its targets, one by one.

You people are pathetic.  I can see why Sam Adams, Solzhenitsyn, and countless other great men were so disgusted by gutless cowardice, they spoke powerful words that would be preserved for centuries.

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I'm sorry but I'm not throwing in with or supporting people that put a Marxist movement above the truth. I wish them luck and fair equal treatment in the current legal system environment they helped create and support.

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If the DA has any kind of competent investigators they'll have video from various protestors showing the whole event beginning to end.

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I seriously question their support of BLM . It wouldn't surprise me if that statement was made under legal counsel

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You generally cannot point guns at people that are trespassing. This has been a thing since forever.

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Of course not. The people filming wouldn't video their own misdeeds. The only viseo I have seen is from the protesters point of view. The McCloskeys tell a different story.

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He said "probably" but sure, let's assume whatever details we must to justify a prosecution.

Right?

They tried chasing these guys off verbally.  "Escalating" things as you put it.  Well, the mob refused, because they were unarmed, and appeared worrisome enough for the guy to go back & get a gun before re-engaging.

But sure, let's assume he was totally just over-reacting, had tons of better options that made sense.  Anything to justify a prosecution.

Right?

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The only video I've been has loud drummers drowning out most dialogue.  Intentionally so, if you ask me.

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They apparently have a history of engaging with and escalating with perceived trespassers including pointing a gun at a neighbor. This is an established pattern of behavior.

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They apparently have a history of engaging with and escalating with perceived trespassers including pointing a gun at a neighbor. This is an established pattern of behavior.

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If you dont suport that you dont supoort the 2A!

Amirite??! Can I get a whoop whoop!?