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Posted: 7/13/2020 3:54:15 PM EDT
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https://www.foxnews.com/science/cdc-best-estimate-40-percent-covid-19-infections-asymptomatic
Link left cold. As I read it, CDC now says overall covid mortality rate is approx .65%...take it for what it's worth. Edit: page 4, woo hoo! |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 3:57:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For people who have had Corona and recovered, do you think there will need to be additional testing in the future to see if any permanent lung or other organ damage has been done? Keep hearing that this damage is a distinct possibility but I don't know that we have planned for this type of testing yet as we are still at the testing for the disease itself stage. My concern is that after wiping out a vulnerable demographic in our country and solving our Social Security and Medicaid funding issues COVID-19 creates a whole new demographic of folks vulnerable to other stuff. Or, based on the antibody research thus far vulnerable to a future case of COVID-19. While it’s early this thing could be a witches brew of badness. Flu bros up now! |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 4:02:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet 10 to 20 percent of the population will wear masks for the rest of their lives. I'm afraid you're right. Whenever I used to see routine mask wearing in Asia, it creeped me out. They look like a bunch of faceless insects scurrying around. Never dreamed it would happen here. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 4:04:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CDC estimates 20-30M total cases so far, we never get every case tested in these large outbreaks. I predict 70+% get it over the next few years. It's part of cold and flu season now. It will eventually mutate until it is just anothe bad cold. Hopefully the sooner the better |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 4:23:38 PM EDT
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Don't forget many retest and retest to see until they're clear. Lots of duplicate people in those results.
IHME modeling puts our total infected about 26M right now. Nowhere NEAR getting to herd immunity  People will likely lose their antibodies before any chance of reaching herd immunity levels. It's not spreading fast enough. Not sure we have any other way to kill it short of a vaccine. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 4:36:54 PM EDT
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I was chatting with a friend this weekend who is a doctor. He said they started taking untouched swabs and sending them to get tested and were getting false positives back. So that makes me wonder out of the total # of people who have tested positive, how many might be false...and could that mean people who are positive show as negative...who knows but it definitely muddies the waters.
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Posted: 7/13/2020 5:17:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What tests are they running? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They are, dead cells are showing up. My wife is a NP, this one nurse can't go back to work until she has three neg in a row, all a week apart, twice shes had two - and then tests +. This has been going on for 6 weeks and she's tested positive 4 times since her first. What tests are they running? Not sure, They were doing swabs, then moved to antibodies test and she said they are supposed to be getting a machine soon that will test for covid and flu with 15min turnaround. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 5:21:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was chatting with a friend this weekend who is a doctor. He said they started taking untouched swabs and sending them to get tested and were getting false positives back. So that makes me wonder out of the total # of people who have tested positive, how many might be false...and could that mean people who are positive show as negative...who knows but it definitely muddies the waters. I've been assured by GD that this is impossible. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 5:22:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah Cause people are rampantly getting retested.  
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Posted: 7/13/2020 5:31:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I work in a hospital who I know first handed tested the same pt 7 times in 2 weeks That is ridiculous sounding, not sure why |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 5:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many of those "cases" are asymptomatic? Around here they are begging everyone to get tested. In fact they are specifically asking people with no symptoms to get tested. Same in Michigan, mad queen wants her numbers badly. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 5:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to know what percent have been tested Positive tests do not equate to deaths. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 5:59:24 PM EDT
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We need as many people as possible to NOT wear masks and especially to decline vaccine when they start pushing it. Wearing a mask is kneeling. Taking a Gates/ Fauci serum is just plain insanity.
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Posted: 7/13/2020 6:00:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We need as many people as possible to NOT wear masks and especially to decline vaccine when they start pushing it. Wearing a mask is kneeling. Taking a Gates/ Fauci serum is just plain insanity. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 6:33:59 PM EDT
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% of covid deaths in Wisconsin 0.014872% 870 deaths out of 5,850,000 people
SHUT IT DOWN !!! WHERE"S YOUR MASK !!! COOOOVID !!! fools
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Posted: 7/13/2020 6:40:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was chatting with a friend this weekend who is a doctor. He said they started taking untouched swabs and sending them to get tested and were getting false positives back. So that makes me wonder out of the total # of people who have tested positive, how many might be false...and could that mean people who are positive show as negative...who knows but it definitely muddies the waters. When I was tested today I was told that 30% of Positive cases come back negative. The Dr. is certain I have Covid based off my symptoms and told me that just in case I come back negative. I have to quarantine for two weeks period. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 7:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For perspective, plain old tuberculosis is a lower respiratory disease that's spread by aerosols. It kills around 1.5M every year, roughly 50% of the world is infected, ~90% of cases are asymptomatic, it's highly resistant to antibiotics, and nobody outside the specialized medical community cares in the slightest. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 7:31:11 PM EDT
[#18]
TWO WEEKS
FLATTEN THE CURVE STAY HOME STAY SAFE |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 7:34:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My concern is that after wiping out a vulnerable demographic in our country and solving our Social Security and Medicaid funding issues COVID-19 creates a whole new demographic of folks vulnerable to other stuff. Or, based on the antibody research thus far vulnerable to a future case of COVID-19. While it’s early this thing could be a witches brew of badness. Flu bros up now! @beitodesstrafe we're up.   George Carlin - Germs, Immune System |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 7:39:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you familiar with the local new in Austin, about the clinic that had tested thousands. ? Some with positive results got scared and went to a hospital. Were all negative... Do you belive they pulled all those positive results or just left them for dramatic effect. ? Honesty curious Are you familiar with the Abbott rapid tests that had a sensitivity of 50%? These were used in hospitals for a couple months before independent testing found that they missed half of all positives. Not everything is a conspiracy. There are always false positives and false negatives with any test. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 7:44:09 PM EDT
[#21]
It’s about the same here approximately 1% infected and the death rate is 2-4% of the positives. On the down side, hospitals are starting to fill.
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Posted: 7/13/2020 7:49:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Deaths are all that matter. Never seen anyone on a vent I guess. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 7:54:05 PM EDT
[#23]
My wife’s coworker just got notified that his test came back positive.
The funny thing is, he never took the test. This also happened to my daughters boyfriend. Sure the numbers are real. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:05:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My concern is that after wiping out a vulnerable demographic in our country and solving our Social Security and Medicaid funding issues COVID-19 creates a whole new demographic of folks vulnerable to other stuff. Or, based on the antibody research thus far vulnerable to a future case of COVID-19. While it’s early this thing could be a witches brew of badness. Flu bros up now! @beitodesstrafe we're up.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:08:05 PM EDT
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I personally know of three separate people who went to get tested, filled out the paperwork, were then told it was a long wait, and decided to leave without testing. All three received notification that they were positive. So take at least those three, and all the others with similar stories, off the positive list.
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:12:14 PM EDT
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MA is one of the worst hit states.
State population: 6.893m Number who have been tested at least once: 0.950m (total tests 1.225m) Number who tested positive: 0.106m So 14% of the population have been tested and 1.5% of the population have tested positive. There have been 8,115 deaths which is 0.12% of the State population and 7.7% of the people who tested positive. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I personally know of three separate people who went to get tested, filled out the paperwork, were then told it was a long wait, and decided to leave without testing. All three received notification that they were positive. So take at least those three, and all the others with similar stories, off the positive list. 
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:13:12 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah Cause people are rampantly getting retested. They are. Every time a chronically ill person goes to the ED with a cough now they get tested with a sars-cov-2 diagnostic PCR. I would say the average chronically ill person gets tested will get tested 3-5 times. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:23:26 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt there will be a working vaccine in the very near future. IF this vaccine company pulls it off (someone correct me, but I don't think this main company has ever produced a working vaccine based off their technique, Moderna) it will be a game changer Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What happened to all the vaccines that were supposedly being produced? For a few weeks I was reading about them every day or two. The last few weeks I don't think I've seen one story on them. I doubt there will be a working vaccine in the very near future. IF this vaccine company pulls it off (someone correct me, but I don't think this main company has ever produced a working vaccine based off their technique, Moderna) it will be a game changer |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:26:46 PM EDT
[#30]
That number is spot on in my county. 120,000 population, 111 positive cases total 0 deaths.
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:33:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That number is spot on in my county. 120,000 population, 111 positive cases total 0 deaths. For comparison with my county: 45,000 population 360 positive cases 7 deaths |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:36:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @ipsilateral_7 serious question, will you take the vaccine from Moderna? @NoHarmNoFal. It fully depends the data, but I’m not thrilled about taking a new designed vaccine that is rushed design with rushed testing. That sounds like the begging to a zombie movie. It may be a moot point, it very well may be mandated by hospitals as condition for employment. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:37:00 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah Cause people are rampantly getting retested. They most definitely are. I know someone who was tested 3 times due to exposure to covid posisitve people on three separate occasions so he could come to work. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:55:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I personally know of three separate people who went to get tested, filled out the paperwork, were then told it was a long wait, and decided to leave without testing. All three received notification that they were positive. So take at least those three, and all the others with similar stories, off the positive list. Its not a lie. I just posted the same thing after it happened to my wife’s coworker. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 8:57:17 PM EDT
[#35]
I wanna know the real death cases
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Posted: 7/13/2020 9:01:55 PM EDT
[#36]
We should be celebrating 100k cases a day, doubling to 200k, etc,.
The more cases we have the closer we are to this shit burning out |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 9:06:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm afraid you're right. Whenever I used to see routine mask wearing in Asia, it creeped me out. They look like a bunch of faceless insects scurrying around. Never dreamed it would happen here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bet 10 to 20 percent of the population will wear masks for the rest of their lives. I'm afraid you're right. Whenever I used to see routine mask wearing in Asia, it creeped me out. They look like a bunch of faceless insects scurrying around. Never dreamed it would happen here. My new mask - and it actually DOES SOMETHING USEFUL:  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 9:11:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/13/2020 9:46:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its not a lie. I just posted the same thing after it happened to my wife’s coworker. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I personally know of three separate people who went to get tested, filled out the paperwork, were then told it was a long wait, and decided to leave without testing. All three received notification that they were positive. So take at least those three, and all the others with similar stories, off the positive list. Its not a lie. I just posted the same thing after it happened to my wife’s coworker. Oh, I'm not doubting you. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:28:49 PM EDT
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a girl I graduated with lost her husband to/with covid-19. he did have asthma though. 35
I have a step-uncle i guess, who has it now in Texas, almost died 2 nights ago, priest gave him his last rites, but then he held on and his oxygen levels improved a bit. has been intubated for a week or so i think. I dont think I have seen him in over 20 years. his wife and daughter both tested positive as well but recovered fine at home. Not sure if uncle has underlying health issues, but is mid 60's then I have one friend who thinks he had it early, tested for antibody and has the antibody. said he was out of commission for about a week thought it was the flu but it tested negative at the time. that is the only anecdotal experience i have |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:32:22 PM EDT
[#41]
The tests only mean something if you think you have it. Just because you test negative today doesn't mean beans tomorrow.
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:32:52 PM EDT
[#42]
. Gov official admitting numbers are Bs |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:36:58 PM EDT
[#43]
Remember when they did the mass test just to find out what percent of the general population had Covid antibodies
and it was way above 1%. Funny I haven't heard of another test like that in a while. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:37:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The tests only mean something if you think you have it. Just because you test negative today doesn't mean beans tomorrow. Testing only means something when you can be treated. Millions of people test positive and they receive no treatment. What's the point? |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:37:50 PM EDT
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My youngest son is in the NG. A jackass came to work on Friday with a fever of 104 degrees. Didn't bother telling anyone until noon. Now my son and another soldier are in quarantine until the test results come back.
 What an unmitigated ass. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:37:50 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many do we expect to get it? 50%? More? @SnoopisTDI If you don’t have a treatment, then to stop an epidemic/pandemic, you need ~ 70% of the population to be immune ie. have effective antibodies against a pathogen. At that percentage, the pathogen can’t be transmitted effectively as it keeps reaching dead ends. There are two ways to produce antibodies: 1) Through infection and recovery 2) A vaccine We don’t have a vaccine, so unless they develop an effective drug, infection is the only path to 70% immunity. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:49:15 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was chatting with a friend this weekend who is a doctor. He said they started taking untouched swabs and sending them to get tested and were getting false positives back. So that makes me wonder out of the total # of people who have tested positive, how many might be false...and could that mean people who are positive show as negative...who knows but it definitely muddies the waters. @Spasm “We’ve traced the source of SARS-CoV-2. It’s coming from inside the test kits!” |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:50:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is ridiculous sounding, not sure why Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I work in a hospital who I know first handed tested the same pt 7 times in 2 weeks That is ridiculous sounding, not sure why More testing = the doctor cares more about the patient. Jurors eat that shit up!
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:52:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Testing only means something when you can be treated. Millions of people test positive and they receive no treatment. What's the point? Depends on the symptoms. Not everyone gets a respirator either. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 10:53:48 PM EDT
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It is just one data point but does not count all the asymptomatic people who had no reason to be tested.
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