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Posted: 7/13/2020 12:43:40 AM EDT
[#1]
How does it compare with “The Enemy Below”?
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Posted: 7/13/2020 12:44:55 AM EDT
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How was the CGI? Good enough to make a movie about Taffy 3?
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Posted: 7/13/2020 12:59:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How was the CGI? Good enough to make a movie about Taffy 3? |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 1:35:28 AM EDT
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movie was good, a nice entertainment. really got me thinking of the chaos of trying to protect fat slow merchant ships from a wolf pack especially at night and the impotent range one must have felt at being unable to stop them from sinking the ships you are supposed to protect (the movie does not explore this much at all or any of the characters in it which I think is a sorely missed opportunity), movie is fast paced lots of action, lots of orders and information passed pack and forth but no real dialogue or build up between fights, CGI is astoundingly good and never threw me out of the story. I would place it above Dunkirk and 1917 but well below saving private ryan
all in all it was an enjoyable watch FYI apple tv has it for free you can sign up for their 7 day free trial watch the movie for free then cancel the trial and it wont cost you a dime |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 1:53:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Watching it now it has lots of action but... Uboats didn’t fight “ very rarely” on the surface. The only reason they surfaced was to surrender and not many did that. Periscopes are shown too high out of the water. Torpedoes were worth more to sink shipping, destroyers all in all we not worth wasting an eel on because they were to fast and maneuverable. Conning tower art is fairly accurate. Destroyer has to stop engines to use the listening hydro. Lots of action though. U-boats attacked on the surface often in the early days, at night. Submerged speed was lower than the 10 - 11 knots the convoys could make. Surfaced, the U-boat could make an attack, race ahead of the convoy, submerge, and get back into position to surface and launch another attack. Later radar made that pretty much suicide, and snorkels allowed a sub at periscope depth to operate the diesel engines. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 2:36:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to mention the part where the Uboat captain was sending radio signals to the ships, mocking them and even howling like a wolf. WTF?  During a time when everyone who disagrees with the left is supposed to be a nazi...why wouldn't they make the Kreigsmarine men absolutely awful murderous cunts. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 3:53:09 AM EDT
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A good movie on merchant shipping and
submarines is Western Approaches. Made in 1943 by the British, the cast is made up of actual merchant seaman that had served in the Battle Of the Atlantic it was filmed at sea in color. No cgi, just real sailors and ships. You can watch it on Amazon prime. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 5:33:43 AM EDT
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Was going to post about it yesterday, but search is very limited with the 'free' account' and didn't want to deal with the "dupe police", but based on these responses, I'm glad I didn't
 I really enjoyed it, and plan to recommend it to coworkers/offer to give them a copy 
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Posted: 7/13/2020 7:01:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was going to post about it yesterday, but search is very limited with the 'free' account' and didn't want to deal with the "dupe police", but based on these responses, I'm glad I didn't There’s actually at least 3 other threads about it., 
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Posted: 7/16/2020 3:51:03 PM EDT
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Very good movie. The action scenes were intense. The younger generation will poo poo on the CGI but I thought it looked fantastic. Don't know how else they could film WWII naval battles with dozens of ships in the background. Of course I grew up watching "Sink the Bismarck" and "In Harms Way" where scale models were used for the battle scenes so CGI is going to be worlds better.
It must have been pretty scary being on one of those destroyers with German u-boats all around you waiting to take you out, all while trying to protect dozens of supply ships.   
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Posted: 7/16/2020 3:54:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty good movie, the wife and I watched it last night. Well worth the time, very good film. |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 4:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very good movie. The action scenes were intense. The younger generation will poo poo on the CGI but i thought it looked fantastic. Don't know how else they could film WWII naval battles with dozens of ships in the background. Of course I grew up watching "Sink the Bismarck" and "In Harms Way" where scale models were used for the battle scenes so CGI is going to be worlds better. It must have been pretty scary being on one of those destroyers with German u-boats all around you waiting to take you out, all while trying to protect dozens of supply ships. https://images-1.amonra.co/uploads/2020/07/13/1fc54c5bd863518273f7f8a4a2596211.png https://weliveentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Greyhound-3-1.jpg https://taskandpurpose.com/.image/t_share/MTcwOTI3OTUyMTgyMTI2MTUy/greyhound---official-trailer-hd.jpg From the Midway thread, this place only likes scale models and old gun cam footage on loop.  |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 5:47:11 PM EDT
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It was a good movie, it's not Saving Private Ryan, but it's ok.
Help me out on the Tom Hanks character. He's an older man, obviously because he's the captain, but this is his first run across the Atlantic? He has training missions in the Caribbean. So was he new to the Navy? Drafted from the merchant marine? His gf/fiance, obviously beautiful, but obviously older as well. Single? Widowed? Elisabeth Shue can play a bitch and I kind of felt that was a bitch move on her part not going with him. If she was previously widowed, then ok, but put it in the story. One girl in the whole movie and she turns him down. The story of Cleveland, it's good, it's insightful, but it's completely ruined and overshadowed by the current politics. If I had seen it two years ago, I wouldn't think that way. |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 6:06:48 PM EDT
[#14]
Really should have been longer, with better character development. Overall I still enjoyed it.
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Posted: 7/16/2020 6:23:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really should have been longer, with better character development. Overall I still enjoyed it. Surface Warfare Stiffy..... It was pretty good with all that ASW and surface action with guns. Now days, the CO is in combat fighting the ship with the TAO and the XO and OOD are on the Bridge was the big difference I noticed. Made me remember, how bad transiting the North Atlantic sucks in the winter. I was on a Spruance class and remember what it's like to be the most capable surface combatant and having to run all over the place like the DD did. |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 6:29:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a good movie, it's not Saving Private Ryan, but it's ok. Help me out on the Tom Hanks character. He's an older man, obviously because he's the captain, but this is his first run across the Atlantic? He has training missions in the Caribbean. So was he new to the Navy? Drafted from the merchant marine? His gf/fiance, obviously beautiful, but obviously older as well. Single? Widowed? Elisabeth Shue can play a bitch and I kind of felt that was a bitch move on her part not going with him. If she was previously widowed, then ok, but put it in the story. One girl in the whole movie and she turns him down. The story of Cleveland, it's good, it's insightful, but it's completely ruined and overshadowed by the current politics. If I had seen it two years ago, I wouldn't think that way. Well, it’s not the first time his age didn’t match the character. I doubt there were any 42 year old Ranger Captains storming Normandy either. |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 6:53:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a good movie, it's not Saving Private Ryan, but it's ok. Help me out on the Tom Hanks character. He's an older man, obviously because he's the captain, but this is his first run across the Atlantic? He has training missions in the Caribbean. So was he new to the Navy? Drafted from the merchant marine? |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 6:53:48 PM EDT
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Those complaining about the U-boat's surface gun tactics, taunting the escorts, etc., are correct, BUT...
Remember, the movie is based on the novel "The Good Shepherd" by C.S. Forester (probably best known for his Horatio Hornblower series of Napoleonic Age naval warfare). Since it's a novel, Forester pulled together multiple unusual to downright rare and possibly even apocryphal events for dramatic effect. In the book, those things happened. |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 7:30:47 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a good movie, it's not Saving Private Ryan, but it's ok. Help me out on the Tom Hanks character. He's an older man, obviously because he's the captain, but this is his first run across the Atlantic? He has training missions in the Caribbean. So was he new to the Navy? Drafted from the merchant marine? His gf/fiance, obviously beautiful, but obviously older as well. Single? Widowed? Elisabeth Shue can play a bitch and I kind of felt that was a bitch move on her part not going with him. If she was previously widowed, then ok, but put it in the story. One girl in the whole movie and she turns him down. The story of Cleveland, it's good, it's insightful, but it's completely ruined and overshadowed by the current politics. If I had seen it two years ago, I wouldn't think that way. Getting promoted in the military between the wars was very political, adn rare duie to the lack of units and slots for command. For example, Patton was a colonel in WWI (probably reserve rank on active duty) but dropped back to being a captain afterwards. The Tom Hanks character ahs been stuck in rank a long time - can't get promoted because he has no command experience, can't get a command because there are so few and he doesn't have command experience. Then war comes, and the military has to put butts in seats - a LOT of seats. |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 8:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those complaining about the U-boat's surface gun tactics, taunting the escorts, etc., are correct, BUT... Remember, the movie is based on the novel "The Good Shepherd" by C.S. Forester (probably best known for his Horatio Hornblower series of Napoleonic Age naval warfare). Since it's a novel, Forester pulled together multiple unusual to downright rare and possibly even apocryphal events for dramatic effect. In the book, those things happened. Seeing how well they did the CGI with this and the filming transitions between the USS Kidd and HMCS Montreal I would *love* for him to do Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors. Either has a ~3 hour movie or an HBO mini-series. Neptunes Inferno would be another great one to do as a mini series. |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 9:09:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neptunes Inferno would be another great one to do as a mini series. |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 8:53:16 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think a movie about us getting our asses kicked would be good for the box office? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Neptunes Inferno would be another great one to do as a mini series. Well, the Chicoms would love it. And that is what Hollywood cares about. |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 9:39:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think a movie about us getting our asses kicked would be good for the box office? Black Hawk Down? |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 10:18:18 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think a movie about us getting our asses kicked would be good for the box office? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Neptunes Inferno would be another great one to do as a mini series.  A Bridge Too Far Zulu Dawn Blackhawk Down Tora Tora Tora All Quiet On The Western Front Johnny Got His Gun Path's of Glory Platoon Downfall Bridges of Toko-Ri That's just off the top of my head. |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 10:21:22 AM EDT
[#25]
Too bad Tom Hanks is in it. Sucks that it's short if what OP said is true.
I'm not subscribing to Apple TV, I have enough subscriptions already. I'm not risking a virus for a bootleg torrent. Maybe I'll catch it in the $5 big at Walmart. Fuck Tom Hanks and his New World Order dick sucking... 
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Posted: 7/17/2020 10:22:10 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its on several of the online streaming sites for those that dont have apple tv Which ones? Everything I've heard said it was Apple TV exclusive. |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 4:27:31 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How does it compare with "The Enemy Below"? It cannot complete with one of the best, if not the best, WWII submarine movie. The Enemy Below is great. It was so good that Star Trek, the original series, stole the plot and used it in season 1, episode 14, Balance of Terror. Almost the exact same story line except it is in space. |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 4:35:20 PM EDT
[#28]
Decent portrayal of the bridge, the way the conn passed from the OOD to the CO, phone talking, engine and helm orders etc. It’s Greek to most but they had good tutors.
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Posted: 7/17/2020 4:37:40 PM EDT
[#29]
High points for action...low points for on surface battles...avg points for story and actors....overall decent movie...maybe not on 1917 par...but way better than midway or thin red line
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Posted: 7/17/2020 4:40:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it about a bus ride? Momma says "Depth Charges are like a Box of Chocolates... You never know what you're going to get"... @Blade_Runner79 |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 5:24:01 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Momma says "Depth Charges are like a Box of Chocolates... You never know what you're going to get"... @Blade_Runner79 
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Posted: 7/17/2020 5:25:59 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never studied north atlantic u boat strategies but going toe to toe on the surface with destroyer seems dumb if in fact it happened much. That only happened in the movie when the uboat was too damaged to remain submerged |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 5:26:25 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So a bootleg torrent? No. Apple bought the movie and released it on Apple TV+ |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 5:33:18 PM EDT
[#34]
Was too short - felt like I missed 1/3 of the movie somewhere.
Engagements were basically: Oh theres a sub on the surface 500m away during the day again, fire at it, and miss 99.9% of your shots Oh theres a sub, fire a depth charge at it - BOOM! dead There was no real lead up to anything. Hell, I forget which old sub movie it was but they made an entire chase of a single sub last like 90 minutes with a lot of tension. Meanwhile, in Greyhound they had a decent build up and then basically nothing happened, or if it did, it was anticlimatic at best. Also absolutely zero character development of anyone outside maybe a hint of it with the steward/cook that dies. Whole thing felt like it was edited for a specific run time. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 1:35:31 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Getting promoted in the military between the wars was very political, adn rare duie to the lack of units and slots for command. For example, Patton was a colonel in WWI (probably reserve rank on active duty) but dropped back to being a captain afterwards. The Tom Hanks character ahs been stuck in rank a long time - can't get promoted because he has no command experience, can't get a command because there are so few and he doesn't have command experience. Then war comes, and the military has to put butts in seats - a LOT of seats. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It was a good movie, it's not Saving Private Ryan, but it's ok. Help me out on the Tom Hanks character. He's an older man, obviously because he's the captain, but this is his first run across the Atlantic? He has training missions in the Caribbean. So was he new to the Navy? Drafted from the merchant marine? His gf/fiance, obviously beautiful, but obviously older as well. Single? Widowed? Elisabeth Shue can play a bitch and I kind of felt that was a bitch move on her part not going with him. If she was previously widowed, then ok, but put it in the story. One girl in the whole movie and she turns him down. The story of Cleveland, it's good, it's insightful, but it's completely ruined and overshadowed by the current politics. If I had seen it two years ago, I wouldn't think that way. Getting promoted in the military between the wars was very political, adn rare duie to the lack of units and slots for command. For example, Patton was a colonel in WWI (probably reserve rank on active duty) but dropped back to being a captain afterwards. The Tom Hanks character ahs been stuck in rank a long time - can't get promoted because he has no command experience, can't get a command because there are so few and he doesn't have command experience. Then war comes, and the military has to put butts in seats - a LOT of seats. https://dchhaddendum.libsyn.com/ep12-wolf-pack-hunting-with-hanks |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 1:11:26 AM EDT
[#36]
Just finished. It was "meh." On top of that, the apple TV channel on my Roku kept stuttering and freezing the moving. Glad it's a free trial.
This review nails my thoughts on it.  Greyhound - Movie Review |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 9:48:04 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just finished. It was "meh." On top of that, the apple TV channel on my Roku kept stuttering and freezing the moving. Glad it's a free trial. This review nails my thoughts on it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kNJxsi7Ii0I would tend to agree. I think the more familiar you are with the time, and the more interested you are in the period the better off you will be in watching it. The movie relies on the viewer having a lot of context to what's going on (in fact it kind of forces you to have this knowledge). Even with that, it's short and there is practically no character development. If it was longer, and there was even a little more development this would be a much better movie. It spans a two day period but because of the pacing and lack of depth it seems like they do the two day run in about 6 hours. In terms of visuals and effects, I thought it was great. |
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