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Quoted: There are small businesses here (WA/Seattle area) all set to open up today, as covid restrictions are easing up. Many of them were destroyed. A tattoo shop had everything inside smashed. Insurance might cover damages but are they going to cover lost revenue while they rebuild and replace lost items? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: A business is not work dying over. That is what insurance is for. It appears he had to use deadly force to protect himself and that is what you have to do in that situation. I don’t see the point of being out there in the mix. No doubt the media will twist this and make him out to be a racist. There are small businesses here (WA/Seattle area) all set to open up today, as covid restrictions are easing up. Many of them were destroyed. A tattoo shop had everything inside smashed. Insurance might cover damages but are they going to cover lost revenue while they rebuild and replace lost items? Fuck. That. Noise. When a thief takes something from you (and really, what is a looter/rioter anyway, but a violent thief), they aren't merely taking/destroying your material possession(s). They are also taking your time, and your peace of mind. They steal the time it took to earn the money to buy the television. They are stealing the time it took to build/rebuild/restore the classic car. They are stealing the hours put in to building up a business. They are stealing the peace of mind that is simply gone when your home or business is smashed in, burned, ransacked. Hell, why not just let them have their way with your wife and/or daughter while they are at it. After all, you have health insurance to pay to fix the physical damage, and counseling for the mental anguish, right? |
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Quoted: Why do people keep saying this? 99.9% of property insurance have exclusions for acts of God, acts of war (foreign or civil) and civil commotion/rioting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: A business is not work dying over. That is what insurance is for. Why do people keep saying this? 99.9% of property insurance have exclusions for acts of God, acts of war (foreign or civil) and civil commotion/rioting. @mordecai Read my post at 2:12:55 PM. |
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Quoted: It's on I-80 halfway between San Fran and New York. Look for the small town with a two stoplights and you found us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Omaha? Where? What happened? Somewhere in the middle of America It's on I-80 halfway between San Fran and New York. Look for the small town with a two stoplights and you found us. Jesus dude, how about a little security here, don't tell people everything!! |
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Quoted: Allegedly. Allegedly used the n-word, and we know people lie to justify aggravated assault and attempted murder/murder. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is GD now saying it's bad for someone to defend themselves from a horde of insurgents out to do grave bodily harm? The fact an insurgent got shot and the Gov is ok with it should be a fucking warning to all other insurgents,"if you value your lives, go home" Yup. Apparently the fact the bar owner used the n word means he's the bad guy. Allegedly. Allegedly used the n-word, and we know people lie to justify aggravated assault and attempted murder/murder. "Kleine also addressed a number of social media posts which state that Gardner allegedly used racial slurs against Scurlock. Kleine said there is no audio of racist comments, and that witnesses, including Scurlock's friends, did not indicate there were any racial tones in conversations leading up to the shooting." |
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Quoted: Jean Stothert had/has a CCW. I take that to mean that she supports the 2nd and self-defense. The chief of police has always seemed like a good guy. I don't see them throwing this business owner to the wolves and shitting all over the county attorney especially when they showed the public videos of the incident. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There not going to stir things up any more than it already is. Jean Stothert had/has a CCW. I take that to mean that she supports the 2nd and self-defense. The chief of police has always seemed like a good guy. I don't see them throwing this business owner to the wolves and shitting all over the county attorney especially when they showed the public videos of the incident. She carrys a Glock G-26. Her and the polce chief are not going to undermine the county attorney. |
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Quoted: She carrys a Glock G-26. Her and the polce chief are not going to undermine the county attorney. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There not going to stir things up any more than it already is. Jean Stothert had/has a CCW. I take that to mean that she supports the 2nd and self-defense. The chief of police has always seemed like a good guy. I don't see them throwing this business owner to the wolves and shitting all over the county attorney especially when they showed the public videos of the incident. She carrys a Glock G-26. Her and the polce chief are not going to undermine the county attorney. They kind of did. Made the comment that it was his decision alone. Thought that was pretty pathetic and weak. |
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Quoted: They kind of did. Made the comment that it was his decision alone. Thought that was pretty pathetic and weak. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There not going to stir things up any more than it already is. Jean Stothert had/has a CCW. I take that to mean that she supports the 2nd and self-defense. The chief of police has always seemed like a good guy. I don't see them throwing this business owner to the wolves and shitting all over the county attorney especially when they showed the public videos of the incident. She carrys a Glock G-26. Her and the polce chief are not going to undermine the county attorney. They kind of did. Made the comment that it was his decision alone. Thought that was pretty pathetic and weak. What sort of input does the mayor need to have in a question about the law? Her not being involved in the decision is appropriate. |
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Possibly unrelated, possibly using the unrest as cover, there's a guy that apparently has been stalking one of my neighbor's daughter for a year or two. Last night at about 2330 there were a few shots into their house. At about 1630 today they came back and put 7 more shots into the house. I don't live in a super nice, west O neighborhood, but I've been here for 7 years and its the first time I've ever of any real crime outside of little shits going through unlocked cars at night.
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Quoted: I've always wondered the rational for why another member goes around following another, and picks at his posts like a fucking hen. It's some super passive aggressive weirdness, but if it gives you a reason to get out of the bed.....let me be your motivation View Quote I guess it wasn't. I had no intention of "following" you. I read your post and commented ........... relax. |
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View Quote I didn't know Steve Buscemi had a side job as a news broadcaster. Neat. |
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Jake Gardner is a Marine, a good guy, and a good family man, the old guy in the video is his 67 year old dad- Jake was protecting him more than anything- when he got out of the marines, he bought a bar, and has owned a couple since- he’s level headed and calm, he was truly trying to protect his dad, and his livelihood
My kids have known him since he was a teenager- The evidence was overwhelming in his favor- I know the prosecutors office, which is top notch, the homicide unit, and the political leadership were close to unanimous with the no charge decision They got it right , but he’s being framed in social media as a racist, which is all it takes to make the narrative powerful |
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Quoted: Jake Gardner is a Marine, a good guy, and a good family man, the old guy in the video is his 67 year old dad- Jake was protecting him more than anything- when he got out of the marines, he bought a bar, and has owned a couple since- he’s level headed and calm, he was truly trying to protect his dad, and his livelihood My kids have known him since he was a teenager- The evidence was overwhelming in his favor- I know the prosecutors office, which is top notch, the homicide unit, and the political leadership were close to unanimous with the no charge decision They got it right , but he’s being framed in social media as a racist, which is all it takes to make the narrative powerful View Quote This is where we failed, social media. We get doxxed and employment fucked with, they stalk the fuck out of us on social media if we speak out. I'm not sure how to counter that, because you can't say anything in his defense without it effecting your life. |
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My wife is opd and at the precinct down town she says there is 400 or so down there some had backpacks full of bricks its hard for her to keep me posted but her time to get the fuck out of there keeps getting pushed later and later. Im getting slightly more then nervous about it.
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Quoted: It was intended to be an amusing comment on verbosity. I guess it wasn't. View Quote I was watching Omaha Scanner when it happened. You see 5 or 6 police officer take off running up the street. Then hear someone was shot. Now what struck me as interesting is the fire department and rescue arrive, pretty quick given the situation. You could see a small crowd gathering by the rescue. All the sudden this woman dressed in black with a red bandana around her neck starts yelling.. "a person of color was shot.... 5 bullets...5 fucking bullets" The crowd suddenly about doubled and then started pressing toward the rescue squad that was just starting to load him up. That chick wasn't even there, she appeared from nowhere and incited the crowd. Go to 1:15:34 and start watching from there. Inciter shows up and starts shouting about shooting a person of color at 1:23:00 Omaha Scanner face Book Attached File |
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Quoted: I agree. Me personally, I wouldn’t make a stand over a business store front. That is just me. On other hand, I would make a stand over my house and for my neighbors too. Just my thought on the matter View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You can leave your house when things go bad. Either it's just things or it's a place you are legally allowed to be and you shouldn't have to retreat. I agree. Me personally, I wouldn’t make a stand over a business store front. That is just me. On other hand, I would make a stand over my house and for my neighbors too. Just my thought on the matter I don't know any of the people involved. But i do know a few owners of businesses in the old market very well. It is possible that some small business owners (with a second mortgage) their business may be their "home" as well. |
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Quoted: This is where we failed, social media. We get doxxed and employment fucked with, they stalk the fuck out of us on social media if we speak out. I'm not sure how to counter that, because you can't say anything in his defense without it effecting your life. View Quote Yup, a no win situation it seems But I’m so old, I don’t care what anyone says about me ?? |
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Quoted: My wife is opd and at the precinct down town she says there is 400 or so down there some had backpacks full of bricks its hard for her to keep me posted but her time to get the fuck out of there keeps getting pushed later and later. Im getting slightly more then nervous about it. View Quote I hope for your wife and all to have a safe and uneventful shift Cooler heads must prevail at some point |
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Quoted: @mordecai Read my post at 2:12:55 PM. View Quote Your and my experience with available insurance coverage is rather divergent then. No agent or underwriter I have ever done business would offer policies or riders for "civil commotion" - it's always been a non-starter, but hey - maybe I'm not doing business with the right insurers. |
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Quoted: Jake Gardner is a Marine, a good guy, and a good family man, the old guy in the video is his 67 year old dad- Jake was protecting him more than anything- when he got out of the marines, he bought a bar, and has owned a couple since- he’s level headed and calm, he was truly trying to protect his dad, and his livelihood My kids have known him since he was a teenager- The evidence was overwhelming in his favor- I know the prosecutors office, which is top notch, the homicide unit, and the political leadership were close to unanimous with the no charge decision They got it right , but he’s being framed in social media as a racist, which is all it takes to make the narrative powerful View Quote PM sent. @402joel |
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Quoted: Your and my experience with available insurance coverage is rather divergent then. No agent or underwriter I have ever done business would offer policies or riders for "civil commotion" - it's always been a non-starter, but hey - maybe I'm not doing business with the right insurers. View Quote @mordecai No idea what you are dealing with. I work in the industry, and generally-speaking, all standard policies provide coverage for "riot and civil commotion". It is a standard peril insured against. |
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https://fox42kptm.com/news/local/building-owner-terminates-lease-of-business-owner-that-killed-black-protester?fbclid=IwAR0rwNTAUjEufnWpPQeBjWxKjmSm0GxnDk4a8h1Oidv0M8jLtT10XJRd02A
OMAHA, Neb. (FOX42 KPTM) — Owners of the commercial property at 1207 Harney Street announced, "The Hive and Gatsby will not reopen in that location." The building owner says he evicted Jake Gardner and terminated the lease for the Hive and the Gatsby Monday. ... View Quote |
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Probably not enforceable but smart move on the landlord's part to keep.his building from being burned to the ground
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Quoted: Probably not enforceable but smart move on the landlord's part to keep.his building from being burned to the ground View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Probably not enforceable but smart move on the landlord's part to keep.his building from being burned to the ground Putting up "I'm on your side" signs have worked poorly in Minneapolis. |
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Quoted: "Kleine also addressed a number of social media posts which state that Gardner allegedly used racial slurs against Scurlock. Kleine said there is no audio of racist comments, and that witnesses, including Scurlock's friends, did not indicate there were any racial tones in conversations leading up to the shooting." View Quote There are a ton of false narratives being pushed on social media in an attempt to further stir up trouble. Watch the videos, guy was attacked by multiple people after letting them know he was armed, there was a tussle, then he shot one of them. |
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Quoted: This is where we failed, social media. We get doxxed and employment fucked with, they stalk the fuck out of us on social media if we speak out. I'm not sure how to counter that, because you can't say anything in his defense without it effecting your life. View Quote Create burner accounts |
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Quoted: How the fuck did that guy get a news anchor job? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: How the fuck did that guy get a news anchor job? I thought the same thing. |
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Quoted: Quoted: How the fuck did that guy get a news anchor job? I thought the same thing. It's "Channel Third". Nobody watches it. |
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Quoted: I was watching Omaha Scanner when it happened. You see 5 or 6 police officer take off running up the street. Then hear someone was shot. Now what struck me as interesting is the fire department and rescue arrive, pretty quick given the situation. You could see a small crowd gathering by the rescue. All the sudden this woman dressed in black with a red bandana around her neck starts yelling.. "a person of color was shot.... 5 bullets...5 fucking bullets" The crowd suddenly about doubled and then started pressing toward the rescue squad that was just starting to load him up. That chick wasn't even there, she appeared from nowhere and incited the crowd. Go to 1:15:34 and start watching from there. Inciter shows up and starts shouting about shooting a person of color at 1:23:00 Omaha Scanner face Book https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/185708/Antifa_jpg-1443053.JPG View Quote here's a good read on ANTIFA: https://www.ammoland.com/2020/06/antifa-osint-profile-violent-leftist-group-part-1/?fbclid=IwAR0HLVi2oH8wQD4bRVenWNZ7vxj0PkHj3QsEcbiQ2OtP0wz6B2yVLq8yhdc#axzz5pQRi3PGJ Looks to me like she's one of the yellows. |
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Quoted: Signs are ineffective against the illiterate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Putting up "I'm on your side" signs have worked poorly in Minneapolis. I would be shocked if they care about press releases any more. |
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Refuse to leave and make them evict you. Courts are still closed |
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Quoted: Probably not enforceable but smart move on the landlord's part to keep.his building from being burned to the ground View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Probably not enforceable but smart move on the landlord's part to keep.his building from being burned to the ground "According to the business owner, Gardner violated the terms of his lease." What part of his lease did he violate? He wasn't even in the building. |
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People around here are losing their minds on social media. They seriously think the guy should have just laid on the ground and let three thugs choke him out and beat him.
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Quoted: People around here are losing their minds on social media. They seriously think the guy should have just laid on the ground and let three thugs choke him out and beat him. View Quote I’ve noticed the media is pushing that angle. They don’t bother to mention that the not woke and now room temp perp, and two other friends, were in the process of felony assault on the victim who was face down and on the ground getting choked out by said soon to be worm food. |
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Quoted: Where are you getting this information that insurance doesn't cover it? https://www.propertycasualty360.com/2020/06/01/riots-civil-commotion-and-vandalism-generally-covered-by-insurance/?slreturn=20200501153240 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/324355/21B34B14-4D3A-41ED-A21E-FF27E3C69000_png-1442575.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How many times does it have to be said that insurance does not cover the looting and destruction that is happening Where are you getting this information that insurance doesn't cover it? https://www.propertycasualty360.com/2020/06/01/riots-civil-commotion-and-vandalism-generally-covered-by-insurance/?slreturn=20200501153240 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/324355/21B34B14-4D3A-41ED-A21E-FF27E3C69000_png-1442575.JPG You might be lucky enough to be covered for 2 million in damages to the building itself, you might find yourself under insured when the reconstruction on a building built in the 1930's ends up costing 9 million. Plus you'll have a $50,000 deductible, and you lost 1.5 million dollars in inventory, equipment and fixtures that was covered under a different policy that excluded riots and looting. Saying "Hurr Durr insurance will pay" after a 2 second google search is a sack of autistic hammers. Business people sink their entire lives into their family business. They probably care more about those than they do their homes, since the business is what provides the home. |
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Quoted: It's on I-80 halfway between San Fran and New York. Look for the small town with a two stoplights and you found us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Omaha? Where? What happened? Somewhere in the middle of America It's on I-80 halfway between San Fran and New York. Look for the small town with a two stoplights and you found us. Omaha lyrics: Counting Crows |
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Quoted: It was intended to be an amusing comment on verbosity. I guess it wasn't. I had no intention of "following" you. I read your post and commented ........... relax. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've always wondered the rational for why another member goes around following another, and picks at his posts like a fucking hen. It's some super passive aggressive weirdness, but if it gives you a reason to get out of the bed.....let me be your motivation I guess it wasn't. I had no intention of "following" you. I read your post and commented ........... relax. |
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Quoted: Your and my experience with available insurance coverage is rather divergent then. No agent or underwriter I have ever done business would offer policies or riders for "civil commotion" - it's always been a non-starter, but hey - maybe I'm not doing business with the right insurers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: @mordecai Read my post at 2:12:55 PM. Your and my experience with available insurance coverage is rather divergent then. No agent or underwriter I have ever done business would offer policies or riders for "civil commotion" - it's always been a non-starter, but hey - maybe I'm not doing business with the right insurers. Most posters are very naive about insurance and have no idea how complex it can be for businesses. They mostly have their own personal policies, which they "think" will cover riots, and they have google. |
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