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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:40:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I've worked with Don for many years - he's a Democrat and I will vote for him again when he runs for re-election. He cares about the law and putting bad guys in jail. He is dedicated to the law and that's all you can ask in a county attorney. Respect for Don crosses party lines in the legal community. For God's sake, Stenberg hired him a a Chief Deputy in the AG's office. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:40:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are two kinds of people involved in the riots, 1) Paid rioters and 2) Welfare recipients.  Didn't you just say paid rioters twice?  |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:40:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Could get sporty in Omaha with this news. So far no news reports on it that I could find News conference live at 1:30 https://www.3newsnow.com/news/local-news/douglas-county-attorney-to-hold-press-conference-to-discuss-protester-death Good. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:40:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the guy still in custody? Was there actually an announcement of no charges? Press conference got over. No charges. He was released sometime last night. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:40:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Touche….we all have our kinks Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is the internet and there are a lot of weirdos on the internet. Touche….we all have our kinks Don't start no shit, don't get shot. See? Freedom be scarier than a mug.
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:41:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Press conference got over. No charges. He was released sometime last night. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is the guy still in custody? Was there actually an announcement of no charges? Press conference got over. No charges. He was released sometime last night. Excellent. As it should be. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:42:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Business and house are two different things. My family is in my house and I will defend it to the death protecting my family. I am not taking a risk my being at home and choosing not to be a part of the protests, rioting and violence. Does that answer your question? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you’re cool if they burn down your house? You have insurance right? Business and house are two different things. My family is in my house and I will defend it to the death protecting my family. I am not taking a risk my being at home and choosing not to be a part of the protests, rioting and violence. Does that answer your question? You can leave your house when things go bad. Either it's just things or it's a place you are legally allowed to be and you shouldn't have to retreat. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:42:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent. As it should be. The second video from the bar's security camera pretty much sealed it. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:43:05 PM EDT
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This is how it is supposed to happen. Maybe this will help to show these idiots that you cannot commit a felony against someone without repercussions.
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:45:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can leave your house when things go bad. Either it's just things or it's a place you are legally allowed to be and you shouldn't have to retreat. I agree. Me personally, I wouldn’t make a stand over a business store front. That is just me. On other hand, I would make a stand over my house and for my neighbors too. Just my thought on the matter |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A business is not work dying over. That is what insurance is for. It appears he had to use deadly force to protect himself and that is what you have to do in that situation. I don’t see the point of being out there in the mix. No doubt the media will twist this and make him out to be a racist. How many times does it have to be said that insurance does not cover the looting and destruction that is happening |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:45:57 PM EDT
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Good shoot. Hire more Security for the bar, and your house. Move family away until this cools down.
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:46:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because social media is stirring the pot by claiming he was yelling the "N" word which was not the case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why does that matter? Because social media is stirring the pot by claiming he was yelling the "N" word which was not the case. So what if he was? |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:46:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many times does it have to be said that insurance does not cover the looting and destruction that is happening Where are you getting this information that insurance doesn’t cover it? https://www.propertycasualty360.com/2020/06/01/riots-civil-commotion-and-vandalism-generally-covered-by-insurance/?slreturn=20200501153240  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:46:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are two kinds of people involved in the riots, 1) Paid rioters and 2) Welfare recipients. You said two kinds. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:47:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many times does it have to be said that insurance does not cover the looting and destruction that is happening Except many times it does... |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:47:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lack of mens rea Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Prosecutor just said there was no evidence of bar owner yelling racist comments. People interviewed from the scene by the police stated no racist comments were being thrown out. Why does that matter? Lack of mens rea Yelling racial slurs at people trying to forcibly enter your property is a crime? |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Press conference got over. No charges. He was released sometime last night. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is the guy still in custody? Was there actually an announcement of no charges? Press conference got over. No charges. He was released sometime last night. He was never in custody. He was questioned with attorneys but his being "held in custody" was a statement from the chief of police who said it to appease the social media mob that were spreading the "cold blooded murder" BS. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:49:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yelling racial slurs at people trying to forcibly enter your property is a crime? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Prosecutor just said there was no evidence of bar owner yelling racist comments. People interviewed from the scene by the police stated no racist comments were being thrown out. Why does that matter? Lack of mens rea Yelling racial slurs at people trying to forcibly enter your property is a crime? Could escalate rather rapidly along. 
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:49:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The second video from the bar's security camera pretty much sealed it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Excellent. As it should be. The second video from the bar's security camera pretty much sealed it. are those videos released? |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:50:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Insurance doesn't cover for riots. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A business is not work dying over. That is what insurance is for. It appears he had to use deadly force to protect himself and that is what you have to do in that situation. I don’t see the point of being out there in the mix. No doubt the media will twist this and make him out to be a racist. Insurance doesn't cover for riots. https://www.iii.org/article/civil-disorders-and-insurance |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:51:55 PM EDT
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Quoted: Could get sporty in Omaha with this news. So far no news reports on it that I could find News conference live at 1:30 https://www.3newsnow.com/news/local-news/douglas-county-attorney-to-hold-press-conference-to-discuss-protester-death Page not found. Wasn't a little bit ago. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:52:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t see why not Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does insurance cover rioters burning down your building? I don’t see why not You should take a look at your policy |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. Me personally, I wouldn’t make a stand over a business store front. That is just me. On other hand, I would make a stand over my house and for my neighbors too. Just my thought on the matter Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can leave your house when things go bad. Either it's just things or it's a place you are legally allowed to be and you shouldn't have to retreat. I agree. Me personally, I wouldn’t make a stand over a business store front. That is just me. On other hand, I would make a stand over my house and for my neighbors too. Just my thought on the matter I won't shit on a guy that's trying to protect his livelihood. While insurance may pay for damages it isn't going to make him completely whole. After the guy has been forced to be closed for two months already, waiting to rebuild could be the last nail in the coffin of his financial investment. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:52:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:53:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Page not found. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could get sporty in Omaha with this news. So far no news reports on it that I could find News conference live at 1:30 https://www.3newsnow.com/news/local-news/douglas-county-attorney-to-hold-press-conference-to-discuss-protester-death Page not found. Its been removed. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:53:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Finally some damn sense
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:53:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good Very |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:53:52 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Page not found. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could get sporty in Omaha with this news. So far no news reports on it that I could find News conference live at 1:30 https://www.3newsnow.com/news/local-news/douglas-county-attorney-to-hold-press-conference-to-discuss-protester-death Page not found. Odd. Click the text next to the alert at the top and it will open up the article. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:53:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I won't shit on a guy that's trying to protect his livelihood. While insurance may pay for damages it isn't going to make him completely whole. After the guy has been forced to be closed for two months already, waiting to rebuild could be the last nail in the coffin of his financial investment. I get it, I certainly do. I am just saying I wouldn’t risk it because he could have been easily killed. I have a family to think about. He may not Both myself and my dad are small business owners The guy was in the right and the outcome is just. You mess with the bull, you get the horns. Just because I wouldn’t have been there personally doesn’t mean I think he was in the wrong. I am just dude on A forum in the internet |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:54:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what if he was? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why does that matter? Because social media is stirring the pot by claiming he was yelling the "N" word which was not the case. So what if he was? You don't have to explain it to me. I get it. It's the other 98% of society that doesn't. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:54:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:55:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its been removed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Could get sporty in Omaha with this news. So far no news reports on it that I could find News conference live at 1:30 https://www.3newsnow.com/news/local-news/douglas-county-attorney-to-hold-press-conference-to-discuss-protester-death Page not found. Its been removed. Rodger that @liljakec. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:56:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prosecutor just said there was no evidence of bar owner yelling racist comments. People interviewed from the scene by the police stated no racist comments were being thrown out. Good thing. If he would of said something mean then he has to take a beating. Its in the Constitution. Honk honk. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:58:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could escalate rather rapidly along. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Prosecutor just said there was no evidence of bar owner yelling racist comments. People interviewed from the scene by the police stated no racist comments were being thrown out. Why does that matter? Lack of mens rea Yelling racial slurs at people trying to forcibly enter your property is a crime? Could escalate rather rapidly along. Are you fucking kidding me? This is what we've become? Don't yell mean things at the guy trying to break into your property, because he might get mad? My. Fucking. God. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:00:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: protester or looter????? Quote HistoryRioter |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:03:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is GD now saying it's bad for someone to defend themselves from a horde of insurgents out to do grave bodily harm?  The fact an insurgent got shot and the Gov is ok with it should be a fucking warning to all other insurgents,"if you value your lives, go home" Only if the shootee said a bad racial word. Otherwise it is ok. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you fucking kidding me? This is what we've become? Don't yell mean things at the guy trying to break into your property, because he might get mad? My. Fucking. God. Best practice is to avoid saying things that could negatively impact the jury... |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:05:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are two kinds of people involved in the riots, 1) Paid rioters and 2) Welfare recipients. Fake News sir. Ivy League Lawyers and Trust Fund babies from the burbs. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:06:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prosecutor just said there was no evidence of bar owner yelling racist comments. People interviewed from the scene by the police stated no racist comments were being thrown out. Not that it should matter but good. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am telling you shit is different. Even though I am not in Omaha anymore, it is my hometown. I went to school at North High School, so you may imagine that my social media is a little more diverse than most. I have lifelong friends who are speaking in ways that I find quite disturbing. We went to school together during the Rodney King riots. While little happened in Omaha that day, lots of threats were tossed around in our racially diverse school, one of these people helped to protect us while getting out of school that afternoon. Don is a good man, and a damn good attorney. I think he is doing the best he can in a very tough situation, but this is an explosive situation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ok. My disabled daughter’s work is shutting down and they are bring her to me at the office. Shits got a different feel this afternoon. When I get gone I’m doubling down on my load out. I am telling you shit is different. Even though I am not in Omaha anymore, it is my hometown. I went to school at North High School, so you may imagine that my social media is a little more diverse than most. I have lifelong friends who are speaking in ways that I find quite disturbing. We went to school together during the Rodney King riots. While little happened in Omaha that day, lots of threats were tossed around in our racially diverse school, one of these people helped to protect us while getting out of school that afternoon. Don is a good man, and a damn good attorney. I think he is doing the best he can in a very tough situation, but this is an explosive situation. I went to North in '67 to 69. We had 2 race riots then, scary situations. Omaha has a good record for self defense shootings, especially for business owners, of siding for the attacked. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:06:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So in other words it's almost a guarantee that his bar is getting burned down tonight? That or a bunch of dead cockroaches in the morning. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:08:30 PM EDT
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Rumor has it that the police chief and Mayor will be holding their own press conference at 330-4 to voice their disagreement with the county attorney's decision. That will get things stirred up. Two politicians versus a career prosecutor who has tried more murder cases than anyone else in the state. Insanity.
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:10:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor has it that the police chief and Mayor will be holding their own press conference at 330-4 to voice their disagreement with the county attorney's decision. That will get things stirred up. Two politicians versus a career prosecutor who has tried more murder cases than anyone else in the state. Insanity. He’s gonna get zmaned. They’ll find a way to charge, even if the charge is illegal. They’ll find a way. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:10:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor has it that the police chief and Mayor will be holding their own press conference at 330-4 to voice their disagreement with the county attorney's decision. That will get things stirred up. Two politicians versus a career prosecutor who has tried more murder cases than anyone else in the state. Insanity. Wasn’t it the police who investigated him? What does the mayor have to do with it? He didn’t investigate the case. Insanity indeed |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:13:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Best practice is to avoid saying things that could negatively impact the jury... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are you fucking kidding me? This is what we've become? Don't yell mean things at the guy trying to break into your property, because he might get mad? My. Fucking. God. Best practice is to avoid saying things that could negatively impact the jury... He runs a bar. He's not a stone cold Tier 1 operator that has planned out "best practices" before using his gun in self defense. Jesus. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:13:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor has it that the police chief and Mayor will be holding their own press conference at 330-4 to voice their disagreement with the county attorney's decision. That will get things stirred up. Two politicians versus a career prosecutor who has tried more murder cases than anyone else in the state. Insanity. I'm going with you heard some bad information. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:14:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn’t it the police who investigated him? What does the mayor have to do with it? He didn’t investigate the case. Insanity indeed Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rumor has it that the police chief and Mayor will be holding their own press conference at 330-4 to voice their disagreement with the county attorney's decision. That will get things stirred up. Two politicians versus a career prosecutor who has tried more murder cases than anyone else in the state. Insanity. Wasn’t it the police who investigated him? What does the mayor have to do with it? He didn’t investigate the case. Insanity indeed Yes, homicide, command staff, county attorneys office, mayor's office all looked at the evidence together and that's the decision that was arrived at. Maybe they will come to their senses or there was internal dissension; maybe its just a rumor but if true it will get things hot. Hope it doesn't come to that. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:15:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going with you heard some bad information. Yeah I hope you're right. |
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