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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? In Minnesota we must attempt retreat from the threat before responding with reasonable force. If the pawn shop has more than one point of entry, he's probably fucked. If lootie didn't have a gun, knife, hammer, etc., he's probably fucked. In Minnesota, specifically in Minneapolis you're gonna get charged if you kill someone in defense of life or property. The state attorney general is none other than Keith Ellison. This white business owner will get the full attention of the attorney generals office. Pawn shop owner is more than likely gonna do time. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:08:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In Minnesota we must attempt retreat from the threat before responding with reasonable force. If the pawn shop has more than one point of entry, he's probably fucked. If lootie didn't have a gun, knife, hammer, etc., he's probably fucked. In Minnesota, specifically in Minneapolis you're gonna get charged if you kill someone in defense of life or property. The state attorney general is none other than Keith Ellison. This white business owner will get the full attention of the attorney generals office. Pawn shop owner is more than likely gonna do time. Holy shit, and we as people puts laws like this in place. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:10:13 PM EDT
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Only dude that was arrested for a crime that would make you turn your head at was a dude a killing savage trying to ruin his livelihood.
Maybe the whole fucking city does need to be burned if that's who they protect, and who they punish. https://jailroster.hennepin.us/JailRosterOnline/jail-roster/search-results |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:17:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair... the cops abandoned their police station and let rioters burn it down. And the cops didn’t shoot anybody. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A small business owner in his shop that has been abandoned to his own devices by the police defends his livelihood, his property, and his life during an out-of-control riot that's burning down the city around him (a riot that, by the way, was incited by the police publicly murdering a man). HE gets arrested on the spot. The murderer with a badge who publicly executed a man on video was free with a small army of cops protecting him for days.  It's fucking bullshit. To be fair... the cops abandoned their police station and let rioters burn it down. And the cops didn’t shoot anybody. They still get paid and don’t lose anything but what’s in their lockers if the station burns. Pawnshop guy isn’t that lucky, and would insurance have covered it if the place burned? I’m thinking no. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:23:54 PM EDT
[#5]
I don’t get it.
Why in the hell would I risk my own freedom by fending off hoards of savages to protect the inventory of my business? Didn’t this guy have insurance? Shooting one of these animals, and then having to deal with the inevitable shitstorm that would follow.........just to save money for Statefarm? Doesn’t make any sense to me. Am I missing something here ? Is looting and rioting an exclusion insurance companies use to fuck busy owners ? Would the business owners loses be covered ? |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:28:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t get it. Why in the hell would I risk my own freedom by fending off hoards of savages to protect the inventory of my business? Didn’t this guy have insurance? Shooting one of these animals, and then having to deal with the inevitable shitstorm that would follow.........just to save money for Statefarm? Doesn’t make any sense to me. Am I missing something here ? Is looting and rioting an exclusion insurance companies use to fuck busy owners ? Would the business owners loses be covered ? I’m going with this. Stuff can be replaced. And that’s all it is, just stuff. Do I have a problem with the guy shooting someone trying to loot? Nope. Sure don’t. But is it really worth the hassle? Now, my home is a different place. Break in to my house, your ass is getting shot. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:28:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t get it. Why in the hell would I risk my own freedom by fending off hoards of savages to protect the inventory of my business? Didn’t this guy have insurance? Shooting one of these animals, and then having to deal with the inevitable shitstorm that would follow.........just to save money for Statefarm? Doesn’t make any sense to me. Am I missing something here ? Is looting and rioting an exclusion insurance companies use to fuck busy owners ? Would the business owners loses be covered ? Principals, and some men refuse to give an inch to the fucking savages. Why in the hell wouldn't he risk it to protect all that he's worked hard for. It's a beautiful shop. That's a damn good way to make sure evil always wins. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:31:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In Minnesota we must attempt retreat from the threat before responding with reasonable force. If the pawn shop has more than one point of entry, he's probably fucked. If lootie didn't have a gun, knife, hammer, etc., he's probably fucked. In Minnesota, specifically in Minneapolis you're gonna get charged if you kill someone in defense of life or property. The state attorney general is none other than Keith Ellison. This white business owner will get the full attention of the attorney generals office. Pawn shop owner is more than likely gonna do time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? In Minnesota we must attempt retreat from the threat before responding with reasonable force. If the pawn shop has more than one point of entry, he's probably fucked. If lootie didn't have a gun, knife, hammer, etc., he's probably fucked. In Minnesota, specifically in Minneapolis you're gonna get charged if you kill someone in defense of life or property. The state attorney general is none other than Keith Ellison. This white business owner will get the full attention of the attorney generals office. Pawn shop owner is more than likely gonna do time. HOOLEEE CRAP!!! That is total Bullshit!!! 
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:49:10 PM EDT
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In Europe the the rulers used placate the masses by letting pogroms/looting/ ect. slide once in a while.
You founding fathers pretty much said fuck that and set out rules to punish people for crimes. This means you don't get to pogrom and loot anymore but should and should expect violence if you try. I consider the right to defend your property (particularly in times of civil unrest) a matter of natural law. Rulers of you big cities sometimes sound more like the despotic Euro kings of old than Americans. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:51:03 PM EDT
[#10]
White people should riot over this travesty.
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:51:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In Europe the the rulers used placate the masses by letting pogroms/looting/ ect. slide once in a while. You founding fathers pretty much said fuck that and set out rules to punish people for crimes. This means you don't get to pogrom and loot anymore but should and should expect violence if you try. I consider the right to defend your property (particularly in times of civil unrest) a matter of natural law. Rulers of you big cities sometimes sound more like the despotic Euro kings of old than Americans. Damn right! Fucking sad when we have to be told not to be cowards or pussies by Europeans  |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:51:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have Zero problems with that. I wish places would put up signs saying so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You Loot, We Shoot! I have Zero problems with that. I wish places would put up signs saying so. Looters are kindly asked to carry ID so we can notify your next of kin. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 7:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looters are kindly asked to carry ID so we can notify your next of kin. Agreed. Want to loot and be an asshole? Sure go for its a free country. Just make sure you know the rules to the game. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 7:08:37 PM EDT
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If he sees punishment, we should be the ones rioting.
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Posted: 5/29/2020 8:51:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he sees punishment, we should be the ones rioting. White people won't do a fucking thing. "Muh Jerb" |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 8:59:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pawn shop owner arrested, charged with murder. https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/john-rieple/ https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/rieplebooking2_censored1.jpg?resize=1024,585 Throw downs how do they work. Not that I would ever do that of course. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 9:02:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HOOLEEE CRAP!!! That is total Bullshit!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? In Minnesota we must attempt retreat from the threat before responding with reasonable force. If the pawn shop has more than one point of entry, he's probably fucked. If lootie didn't have a gun, knife, hammer, etc., he's probably fucked. In Minnesota, specifically in Minneapolis you're gonna get charged if you kill someone in defense of life or property. The state attorney general is none other than Keith Ellison. This white business owner will get the full attention of the attorney generals office. Pawn shop owner is more than likely gonna do time. HOOLEEE CRAP!!! That is total Bullshit!!! No castle laws in now progressive Minnesota. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 9:02:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be surprised if you couldn't, especially in the confines of a dwelling or place of business. Even CA has a pretty liberal (the good kind) version of what is kosher in times of civil unrest and/or to stop arson. Most states do not have CA's robust self-defense and defense of home laws. I would not assume MN has laws like ours. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 9:07:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were the cops doing CPR with their hands, or their knees?  
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Posted: 5/29/2020 9:09:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That seems unreasonable under the circumstances. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pawn shop owner arrested, charged with murder. https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/john-rieple/ https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/rieplebooking2_censored1.jpg?resize=1024,585 That seems unreasonable under the circumstances. +1 Total fucking bullshit. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 9:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be surprised if you couldn't, especially in the confines of a dwelling or place of business. Even CA has a pretty liberal (the good kind) version of what is kosher in times of civil unrest and/or to stop arson. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? I would be surprised if you couldn't, especially in the confines of a dwelling or place of business. Even CA has a pretty liberal (the good kind) version of what is kosher in times of civil unrest and/or to stop arson. We don't have castle doctrine here. Carry classes will tell you that you have a duty to retreat if it is possible. "There's a fucking mob outside burning shit" seems like a good argument that retreat might not have been possible |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perp wasnt bullet proof... Obviously not. I didn't see an orange life preserver on him or nearby while he was getting CPR. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A small business owner in his shop that has been abandoned to his own devices by the police defends his livelihood, his property, and his life during an out-of-control riot that's burning down the city around him (a riot that, by the way, was incited by the police publicly murdering a man). HE gets arrested on the spot. The murderer with a badge who publicly executed a man on video was free with a small army of cops protecting him for days. It's fucking bullshit. Yup. Imagine seeing this and STILL not concluding that cops are the biggest threat to freedom imaginable. Fuck those fucking cunts. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:10:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t get it. Why in the hell would I risk my own freedom by fending off hoards of savages to protect the inventory of my business? Didn’t this guy have insurance? Shooting one of these animals, and then having to deal with the inevitable shitstorm that would follow.........just to save money for Statefarm? Doesn’t make any sense to me. Am I missing something here ? Is looting and rioting an exclusion insurance companies use to fuck busy owners ? Would the business owners loses be covered ? An adjuster in here yesterday said that war & riots are exclusionary... Injustice is now institutionalized. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:11:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pawn shop owner arrested, charged with murder. https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/john-rieple/ https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/rieplebooking2_censored1.jpg?resize=1024,585 Well the police and DA clearly have chosen sides. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:15:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me/shop owner- "what dead guys"? |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:16:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An adjuster in here yesterday said that war & riots are exclusionary... Injustice is now institutionalized. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t get it. Why in the hell would I risk my own freedom by fending off hoards of savages to protect the inventory of my business? Didn’t this guy have insurance? Shooting one of these animals, and then having to deal with the inevitable shitstorm that would follow.........just to save money for Statefarm? Doesn’t make any sense to me. Am I missing something here ? Is looting and rioting an exclusion insurance companies use to fuck busy owners ? Would the business owners loses be covered ? An adjuster in here yesterday said that war & riots are exclusionary... Injustice is now institutionalized. Yup. Cops create this situation by protecting a known piece of shit for YEARS, until he murders someone on video. Then the cops retreat like faggot cowards as a mob burns their police stations, and loots stores. Then when someone legally defends his livelihood, knowing his inventory won't be replaced by insurance, they move as fast as they fucking can to arrest him. They are unbelievably worthless cunts. Literally the most laughable profession on the planet. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:20:10 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit, and we as people puts laws like this in place. No we didn't, idiots that vote for progressives and liberals allowed these laws to be passed for the good of all people. We need a civil war to cleanse this country of these evil lawmakers that make criminals of good people who are trying to do the right thing, all while they pass laws giving the evil people, the law breakers, more freedoms and rights to attack the good people. This incident really shines a light on how messed up that entire state has become, but what do you expect from a state that elects a Muslim immigrant that hates the US and married her own brother to skirt the immigration laws? |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:24:12 PM EDT
[#29]
That’s BS.
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:26:36 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t get it. Why in the hell would I risk my own freedom by fending off hoards of savages to protect the inventory of my business? Didn’t this guy have insurance? Shooting one of these animals, and then having to deal with the inevitable shitstorm that would follow.........just to save money for Statefarm? Doesn’t make any sense to me. Am I missing something here ? Is looting and rioting an exclusion insurance companies use to fuck busy owners ? Would the business owners loses be covered ? Things insurance won’t cover likey: Cash, pm’s, etc. so yeah could be the man’s whole life, it it was a looter glad he got shot. You try to take what someone builds, don’t be surprised when they decide you should die. Period. I’ll donate to the owners defense. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:36:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Here's another Minneapolis Police transgression. In Minnesota we don't have open carry - unless - you have a concealed carry permit. On the second night of rioting in Minneapolis, police at the 3rd precinct were arresting open carriers and confiscating guns even if they held a valid Minnesota permit to carry. Many of these open carriers were attempting to deter looters. No laws were broken yet these people are in jail and their weapons are now in the possession of MPD.
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:39:07 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's another Minneapolis Police transgression. In Minnesota we don't have open carry - unless - you have a concealed carry permit. On the second night of rioting in Minneapolis, police at the 3rd precinct were arresting open carriers and confiscating guns even if they held a valid Minnesota permit to carry. Many of these open carriers were attempting to deter looters. No laws were broken yet these people are in jail and their weapons are now in the possession of MPD. It's as if the Police up there want EVERYONE to hate and oppose them. I don't give a fuck about a dead criminal but start coming after my rights and we've got a problem and it's not a math problem. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:40:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its as if the Police up there want EVERYONE to hate them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's another Minneapolis Police transgression. In Minnesota we don't have open carry - unless - you have a concealed carry permit. On the second night of rioting in Minneapolis, police at the 3rd precinct were arresting open carriers and confiscating guns even if they held a valid Minnesota permit to carry. Many of these open carriers were attempting to deter looters. No laws were broken yet these people are in jail and their weapons are now in the possession of MPD. Its as if the Police up there want EVERYONE to hate them. They're all pussies. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:40:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They're all pussies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's another Minneapolis Police transgression. In Minnesota we don't have open carry - unless - you have a concealed carry permit. On the second night of rioting in Minneapolis, police at the 3rd precinct were arresting open carriers and confiscating guns even if they held a valid Minnesota permit to carry. Many of these open carriers were attempting to deter looters. No laws were broken yet these people are in jail and their weapons are now in the possession of MPD. Its as if the Police up there want EVERYONE to hate them. They're all pussies. The cops or those that allowed themselves to be arrested? |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:43:52 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistorySeems like the pawn shop owners actions were consistant with the law. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:46:27 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The cops or those that allowed themselves to be arrested? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's another Minneapolis Police transgression. In Minnesota we don't have open carry - unless - you have a concealed carry permit. On the second night of rioting in Minneapolis, police at the 3rd precinct were arresting open carriers and confiscating guns even if they held a valid Minnesota permit to carry. Many of these open carriers were attempting to deter looters. No laws were broken yet these people are in jail and their weapons are now in the possession of MPD. Its as if the Police up there want EVERYONE to hate them. They're all pussies. The cops or those that allowed themselves to be arrested? The cops. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:51:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Leftist politicians would rather see a good, honest, innocent man die than have to deal with the fallout from a shitbag being killed while looting that innocent man’s property.
Murder charges are despicable in this case. TC |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:52:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair... the cops abandoned their police station and let rioters burn it down. And the cops didn’t shoot anybody. To be fair the cops didn't put their life savings into the station and will still have a job when the new one is built. No comparison. Is the ability to feed your kids worth fighting over? If not, why not? |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 10:57:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m going with this. Stuff can be replaced. And that’s all it is, just stuff. Do I have a problem with the guy shooting someone trying to loot? Nope. Sure don’t. But is it really worth the hassle? Now, my home is a different place. Break in to my house, your ass is getting shot. I'm not an expert, but I remember reading many businesses get coverage denials, or offers of pennies on the dollar. Pretty much sinks a small business owner. Especially following a month or two of mandated closure, no? |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 11:01:39 PM EDT
[#40]
Y'all do realize the people in charge of liberal MN HAD to charge this guy with murder right?
They can't have whitey killing black rioters. They can't let whitey use violence to defend his property, business, or self. That would set a dangerous precedent. If whitey shot minority looters then their anarcho tyranny would fail. The riots would end if looters were afraid of being shot. The police would be unnecessary if citizens weren't scared of defending themselves. Also, it would bolster the 2and amendment. Better to have stores burned then allow a man to get away with shooting a looter. Because if he does, their control is diminished. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 11:12:07 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Y'all do realize the people in charge of liberal MN HAD to charge this guy with murder right? They can't have whitey killing black rioters. They can't let whitey use violence to defend his property, business, or self. That would set a dangerous precedent. If whitey shot minority looters then their anarcho tyranny would fail. The riots would end if looters were afraid of being shot. The police would be unnecessary if citizens weren't scared of defending themselves. Also, it would bolster the 2and amendment. Better to have stores burned then allow a man to get away with shooting a looter. Because if he does, their control is diminished. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 11:12:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well the police and DA clearly have chosen sides. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pawn shop owner arrested, charged with murder. https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/john-rieple/ https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/rieplebooking2_censored1.jpg?resize=1024,585 Well the police and DA clearly have chosen sides. Looting and arson and murder are fine as long as you're part of the victim class. Defending your livelihood is verbotten. The wrong side is rioting. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 11:14:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The cops or those that allowed themselves to be arrested? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's another Minneapolis Police transgression. In Minnesota we don't have open carry - unless - you have a concealed carry permit. On the second night of rioting in Minneapolis, police at the 3rd precinct were arresting open carriers and confiscating guns even if they held a valid Minnesota permit to carry. Many of these open carriers were attempting to deter looters. No laws were broken yet these people are in jail and their weapons are now in the possession of MPD. Its as if the Police up there want EVERYONE to hate them. They're all pussies. The cops or those that allowed themselves to be arrested? The latter. But this thread is full of people that think defending your property is wrong. Think about that. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 11:58:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like the pawn shop owners actions were consistant with the law. Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like the pawn shop owners actions were consistant with the law. Pretty sure the pawn shop isn't that mans abode. Even if it were he'd still be in jail charged with murder, that just seems to be how it works here. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 12:04:40 AM EDT
[#45]
I did watch the cop pumping out the blood from the bullet shot looter.
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Posted: 5/30/2020 12:11:48 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair... the cops abandoned their police station and let rioters burn it down. And the cops didn’t shoot anybody. How many of the cops were losing their life savings and future pay when the police station burned down? Looters should have moved to the capitol and city hall instead of destroying businesses. Let some politicians watch their cars burn for a change while they shit their pants. ETA - Beat by justsayin |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 12:17:03 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An adjuster in here yesterday said that war & riots are exclusionary... Injustice is now institutionalized. Been that way for years. I don't think my business will be at risk any time soon (pretty rural area) but it would be unrecoverable if that happened and I'd use deadly force to prevent it. Fuck politicians and their "room to destroy" bullshit. I'd be in favor of posting their addresses on Facebook and Twitter if they tacitly ok'd and then stood silently by and watched my business be destroyed. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 1:13:24 AM EDT
[#48]
This is why I keep saying the pawn shop owner is fucked.
 That's the state attorney general (Keith Ellison) all too proud to show off his ANTIFA handbook. White pawn shop owner shot and killed black lootie. How do you think this man views that?!?! |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 2:34:54 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In Minnesota we must attempt retreat from the threat before responding with reasonable force. If the pawn shop has more than one point of entry, he's probably fucked. If lootie didn't have a gun, knife, hammer, etc., he's probably fucked. In Minnesota, specifically in Minneapolis you're gonna get charged if you kill someone in defense of life or property. The state attorney general is none other than Keith Ellison. This white business owner will get the full attention of the attorney generals office. Pawn shop owner is more than likely gonna do time. Upside down clown world. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 3:02:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It could have very easily been self-defense... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can you protect property with deadly force in MN? Arson or threatened/attempted arson against an occupied structure is deadly force. |
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