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AR15.COM
3/3/2004 5:08:53 PM EDT
This looks like it could be legit.

This is true & scary that it could happen to anyone.

Check it out on this University of Texas web site:
www.utexas.edu/admin/utpd/atm.html



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Also, this type of scam can be applied to any type of card reader, from grocery store checkouts, to gas pumps. Also, remember to be nice to your waiter/waitress-- they might have a card swiper that stores the numbers of the cards and is easily concealed....
3/3/2004 6:06:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Think they would mind if I steal their camera? If I see one I believe I will. I could use a wireless camera.[;)]


ByteTheBullet  (-:
3/3/2004 6:21:27 PM EDT
[#2]
probably legit
I once read a legit story about some crooks that put a fake entire front to an atm machine at an established atm site. it kept the cards, recorded the pins, and it had a drop for deposits.
3/3/2004 6:39:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Seems a good time to repeat an event that happened late last year in Truckee Ca. Police responded to a suspicious person report and a sharp eyed officer noticed a wireless camera that was attached to the frame of an ATM, even though it was designed to match. Further investigation found a wireless video capture devise in a nearby van. Two  suspects turned out to be part of a russian mafia ring operating out of Vegas. MO was to observe the pin through the camera, follow and burglarize victim to get physical possesion of the card.
3/3/2004 10:59:37 PM EDT
[#4]
That's easy to get around, just have an ATM account that's pretty much tapped out like one of mine is.  I keep the available balance low (buying things???) with no fallback to "overdrafting" protection from a credit card account and then stock it up as necessary.  Electronically transfer the funds in from another account.
3/4/2004 12:07:01 AM EDT
[#5]
HAHAHAHHA I'm so evil! I actually thought of this scam like 5 years ago! I said, man with these ultra small cameras and a magnetic card swiper (available in gadget mags) I could make a fortune. Unfortunatly I was too damn lazy to make it happen. Plus there is that whole going to jail thing..........ah to day dream!
3/4/2004 3:13:49 AM EDT
[#6]
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Seems a good time to repeat an event that happened late last year in Truckee Ca. Police responded to a suspicious person report and a sharp eyed officer noticed a wireless camera that was attached to the frame of an ATM, even though it was designed to match. Further investigation found a wireless video capture devise in a nearby van. Two  suspects turned out to be part of a russian mafia ring operating out of Vegas. MO was to observe the pin through the camera, follow and burglarize victim to get physical possesion of the card.
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I remember something similar to this. They setup a fake machine in a mall and recorded the numbers to the hard drive, and performed "routine maintenance" to download the numbers and pins....
3/4/2004 3:16:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

I remember something similar to this. They setup a fake machine in a mall and recorded the numbers to the hard drive, and performed "routine maintenance" to download the numbers and pins....
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Someone did this in Syracuse NY I think. They just rolled in a fake machine into the bottom of a mall. I guess you stuck a card in, got an error message then they counterfieted the card.
3/4/2004 5:41:05 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
This looks like it could be legit.

This is true & scary that it could happen to anyone.
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Not me, I don't have an ATM card.
3/4/2004 6:30:31 AM EDT
[#9]
people wonder why im paranoid. these times are making life no longer fun. so sad. Ronald
3/4/2004 11:55:09 AM EDT
[#10]
They are also doing this with gas pumps with card readers at stations near major highways.  MO is for someone to pull up to pump on the side away from the attendant, open the pump, and clip in a device that gets the card number and PIN, then come back at a later time to collect it.  The mark never sees anything out of the ordinary, as it uses the pump's actual reader, and doesn't know anything's amiss until they get a call from their card company or get their bill.

Countermeasure is to use the pumps that face the attendant, or at least the pumps closest to the attendant.
3/4/2004 1:45:48 PM EDT
[#11]
Key is: always use a credit card-- so it doesn't affect your own money...