Posted: 3/1/2004 5:59:23 AM EDT
|
Kidneys hurt like I've been punched. Have to piss about every 30-60 minutes. Started last night. Go to the doc, or is this just something stupid? |
|
Quoted: Kidneys hurt like I've been punched. Have to piss about every 30-60 minutes. Started last night. Go to the doc, or is this just something stupid? Are you on the Atkins or South Beach diet? Both diets are prone to cause kidney stones in those susceptible to them. Your later post about high ketone levels also is an indication of the diets. |
|
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ooookay. Appointment at 1445 today.... Keep us posted, try cranberry juice.. Indeed it is, but it goes through the kidneys first, no?? [:D] If it's kidney stones, cranberry juice would be the absolutely WORST thing he could drink. The majority of stones are caused by calcium oxalate. Cranberry juice is HIGH is oxalic acid and therefore would only worsen the problem (if it is indeed a calcium oxalate stone). Keep us posted |
|
Well doc, what say you about my diagnosis -- as to a infection ? In a otherwise healthy adult male I dismissed renal failure for a number of reasons. Of course I am not a doctor, but I did spend the night at a Holiday Inn Express. [:)] I concur with the cranberry juice advise. |
|
Quoted: Quoted: Kidneys hurt like I've been punched. Have to piss about every 30-60 minutes. Started last night. Go to the doc, or is this just something stupid? Are you on the Atkins or South Beach diet? Both diets are prone to cause kidney stones in those susceptible to them. Your later post about high ketone levels also is an indication of the diets. No, I've been on the see-food diet. |
|
Pyelonephritis? Renal Failure? Whew, you guys have to put those lay-medical books down and go have a beer. Pyelonephritis is a complication of an infection, not a condition unto itself. Since urine is usually sterile, an infectious agent has to be introduced into the environment from the outside. The most common cause of pyelonephritis is poor catheterization technique. (You haven't been sticking stuff up your wing-wang have you? If not, you can usually rule this out). Renal Failure? He wouldn't be able to go to the bathroom at all. Plus his enzyme levels would be through the roof. Pain would be the least of his worries at that point. Not much of an option here either. Has your Dr. requested an IVP? (a contrast x-ray that would help to see if there is a stone present?) Drink PLENTY of WATER (not cola or alcoholic beverages) until a diagnosis is made. |
|
Well as you well know ........... Acute Renal Failure is not a disease but is the final common pathway of different processes. The acute "onset" of renal failure ensures that neither the kidneys nor the body will have time to adapt to the loss of renal function. Anyway it was a thought ? That like I said, I dismissed.[:O] I also concur, as I sip a brewskey. |
|
Quoted: (You haven't been sticking stuff up your wing-wang have you? If not, you can usually rule this out). [red]negative[/red] Has your Dr. requested an IVP? (a contrast x-ray that would help to see if there is a stone present?)[red]negative. And I wouldn't be in a big damn hurry to have it done, either.[/red] Drink PLENTY of WATER (not cola or alcoholic beverages) until a diagnosis is made. Does this help?: I went on a very strenuous hike (shut up, psywar) on Saturday that has kicked my ass. I feel like a hundred dollars. Could that be the cause of the elevated ketones and/or the blood in the u-rine? |
|
Pyelonephritis is a complication of an infection, not a condition unto itself. Since urine is usually sterile, an infectious agent has to be introduced into the environment from the outside. The most common cause of pyelonephritis is poor catheterization technique. I have to wonder if --- sticking it into some nasty pu-tang could cause said infection ?[:)] Again just a thought ? |
|
No need to fear an IVP. They simply inject you with some contrast solution (make sure you tell them before hand if you have a shellfish allergy) and take an x-ray. No probes are going in unnatural places. Unfortunately, I suffer from periodic kidney stones. Try having a bi-lateral (that's BOTH ureters, folks!) obstruction. That's a REALLY bad day. As far as your hike, that wouldn't put blood and elevated ketones into your urine unless you fell down and struck your lower back or you 'beared-down' hard on your bladder while you were trekking. And even then, that shouldn't cause acute ketosis. If your urinalysis comes back absent of indication of an infection, ask for an IVP to rule out stones. |
|
Quoted: I wouldn't doubt that it COULD, but unless you're inferring something about MarianLibrarian's "cookie", I don't see how it could be that in this case.... Roger that, no insult intended. Just thrown into the conversation as to other possible sources of ............infection. |
|
Quoted: Pyelonephritis is a complication of an infection, not a condition unto itself. Since urine is usually sterile, an infectious agent has to be introduced into the environment from the outside. The most common cause of pyelonephritis is poor catheterization technique. I have to wonder if --- sticking it into some nasty pu-tang could cause said infection ?[:)] Again just a thought ? Actually, that too is a possibility. If infection is determined to be the cause, any unprotected partner should also be tested. A lot of women can be asymptomatic for UTI and pass it to their men-folk. |
|
Quoted: Pyelonephritis? Renal Failure? Whew, you guys have to put those lay-medical books down and go have a beer. Pyelonephritis is a complication of an infection, not a condition unto itself. Since urine is usually sterile, an infectious agent has to be introduced into the environment from the outside. The most common cause of pyelonephritis is poor catheterization technique. (You haven't been sticking stuff up your wing-wang have you? If not, you can usually rule this out). You're splitting hairs, doc. Pyelo is an infection of the renal parenchyma and collecting system. But you are correct that in males it is a less likely candidate without having been "instrumented." With the new info on the kick ass hike, blood and ketones in the urine, could this be a manifestation of a mild case of rhabdomyolysis? I've not seen rhabdo present like that, but in ten years of medical practice I've learned to never say never. |
|
My urologist told me that when a man has a kidney infection it is usually due to a problem with the prostate, unless stones are present. Also, I was told that cranberry juice has enough acid to dissolve a small stone or at least take the edges off of a sharp stone. This seems to hold true for me; I only drink it when I have a stone. BTW, I have had 25+ stones. |
|
Sorry, man. Didn't mean to worry you. It was a long shot. On rare occasions, the breakdown of muscle tissue will cause renal problems. I have never rhabdomyolysis produce flank pain, and frankly the only times I've seen the syndrome at all is in alky's who pass out and lay motionless in the floor for a long period of time or in older folks who fall and break a hip and lay motionless in the floor. Do you have a diagnosis yet? |