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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:39:47 AM EDT
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The manual says to press and hold the 0 key for 10 seconds before installing the new battery. Did you try that?
https://www.imlss.com/images/pdf/3710-electronic-entry-device-user-operating-instructions.pdf |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 3:05:01 AM EDT
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The manual says to press and hold the 0 key for 10 seconds before installing the new battery. Did you try that? https://www.imlss.com/images/pdf/3710-electronic-entry-device-user-operating-instructions.pdf |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 3:14:11 AM EDT
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I have that safe/lock and I’ve never done that when changing batteries. I wonder what it does or doesn’t do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The manual says to press and hold the 0 key for 10 seconds before installing the new battery. Did you try that? https://www.imlss.com/images/pdf/3710-electronic-entry-device-user-operating-instructions.pdf |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 3:17:14 AM EDT
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Who wants to test it out?
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Posted: 3/3/2020 3:20:52 AM EDT
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Who wants to test it out? If it was one of those Tractor Supply Cannons I would be worried. Two guys I know had to get new locks for theirs. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 5:51:25 AM EDT
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Granite Security Products, Inc.
Winchester Safes 4801 Esco Drive Fort Worth, TX 76140 Telephone: 877-948-6723 (877-9GUNSAFE) or 469-735-4901 |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:45:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here, had it for 8 or 9 years now, never held the 0 key. If there is any doubt, have the door open when replacing the batteries. The lock will still open several times, even with the alarm, so there may be some other issue. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:47:49 AM EDT
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If I wasn't at work I would give it a whirl. If it was one of those Tractor Supply Cannons I would be worried. Two guys I know had to get new locks for theirs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who wants to test it out? If it was one of those Tractor Supply Cannons I would be worried. Two guys I know had to get new locks for theirs. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:48:31 AM EDT
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Same thing happened to me. The locking mechanism went bad. Called them and the guy first emailed me some steps to try. When that didn't work, he told me lock mechanism was bad and it was about $80 to replace. I told him I was recently unemployed (which I was) and he said "no worries, what is your address" and sent it to me free of charge along with the complete programming guide.
Good company to deal with. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:32:16 PM EDT
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If the safe is registered to you Winchester will provide you a backup code. This code cannot be changed by you. If it is not registered to you they will ask for proof of ownership. I had to send them a copy of a notarized letter from local police stating the safe was in my possession and the numbers came back clean. Mine opened up with the backup code. It cost me about $50 for a new keypad. If the internal locking mechanism has completely failed and not the keypad it will turn into a drill job.
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:34:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:36:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here, had it for 8 or 9 years now, never held the 0 key. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:37:25 PM EDT
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If the safe is registered to you Winchester will provide you a backup code. This code cannot be changed by you. If it is not registered to you they will ask for proof of ownership. I had to send them a copy of a notarized letter from local police stating the safe was in my possession and the numbers came back clean. Mine opened up with the backup code. It cost me about $50 for a new keypad. If the internal locking mechanism has completely failed and not the keypad it will turn into a drill job. Easy |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:37:53 PM EDT
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DAY 1
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:17:43 PM EDT
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Thanks for the tips. I will keep trying.
I had the combo written down in a safe place, but it disappeared. The wife said she didn't touch it. Guess it grew wings and flew away. SMH There is only a few numbers it could be. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:38:03 PM EDT
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That keypad is notorious for going bad. I have the same one on my Winchester safe and the one number on the pad is touchy, I need to press it straight in with just my fingernail or it doesn't recognize the press correctly and locks me out.
Here's a big thread about it. http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=277049 |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:41:14 PM EDT
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Take the battery out and let the capacitors fully drain then put the battery back in?
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:57:28 PM EDT
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Thanks for the tips. I will keep trying. I had the combo written down in a safe place, but it disappeared. The wife said she didn't touch it. Guess it grew wings and flew away. SMH There is only a few numbers it could be.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 3:00:13 PM EDT
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Clicked on this thread to see if culprit was an electronic lock. My bias against electronic locks has been once again reinforced.
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Posted: 3/3/2020 3:34:59 PM EDT
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Clicked on this thread to see if culprit was an electronic lock. My bias against electronic locks has been once again reinforced. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 7:30:27 PM EDT
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Mine eventually opened. I immediately replaced the electronic lock with a manual S&G...
They are junk safes with junk electronic locks... |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 7:37:35 PM EDT
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Thanks for the tips. I will keep trying. I had the combo written down in a safe place, but it disappeared. The wife said she didn't touch it. Guess it grew wings and flew away. SMH There is only a few numbers it could be. No way is she ever going to lose that cookbook. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 7:41:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had the combo written down in a safe place, but it disappeared. 
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Posted: 3/3/2020 7:46:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2020 3:09:13 AM EDT
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I wouldn't actually say I don't know the combination, but my attempts have failed me thus far.
I only use a few different ones and none have worked. My Cannon Oxbow with the manual lock is in the living room upstairs and has never failed me. There will be more attempts, but I think this lock might be cooked. There is probably 20K of high end AR's in there. Armalite's and some Sig's and a few others. They deserve better than a $400 safe. That Oxbow weighs 800 lbs. This one is cheaply made. |
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Posted: 3/4/2020 3:17:32 AM EDT
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I wouldn't actually say I don't know the combination, but my attempts have failed me thus far. My Cannon Oxbow with the manual lock is in the living room upstairs and has never failed me. There will be more attempts, but I think this lock is cooked. When I get it open, I am going to fill it full of Tannerite and blow it to the fucking moon. I have always wanted a Liberty or a Fort Knox. These Winchester safes are shit. Lesson learned. There is probably 20K of high end AR's in there. Armalite's and some Sig's and a few others. They deserve better than a $400 safe. But you are right, they do deserve a bit better than a Costco safe. Fort Knox is excellent and worth every penny. |
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Posted: 3/4/2020 3:29:09 AM EDT
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I appreciate all the input and especially like all the digs and GIFs.
I can take a Joke. I know it is probably my fault. I work stupid hours at a factory and that is why I can afford cool guns. Same job for 32 years. I will crack that bastard! |
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Posted: 3/4/2020 3:48:30 AM EDT
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Are you using a alkaline battery for the replacement? When I first got mine from sams club the only 9v batteries I had in the house were the Panasonic heavy duty ones that my wife gets for free from her work. It would beep but not actually move the servo. I reread the manual and it said alkaline only. Went to Albertsons and got a copper top and it worked perfect.
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Posted: 3/5/2020 2:56:29 AM EDT
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Yes, It is an Alkaline Battery, just not a copper top.
I forget every time I go to the store. I am starting to think it is battery related. The beeps seem kind of slow. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 3:21:10 AM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/VFB6h7Y.jpg Drill a hole in the back big enough to slip a jigsaw blade into. Have a dozen decent metal cutting jigsaw blades just in case. Access panel was complete in 10 minutes, from door was open in another 5 min. Gun safes are actually pretty fucking useless. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 3:25:34 AM EDT
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OP if you own basic tools the second you decide that "fuck this I'm opening the sumbitch up".. You'll have the sumbitch open.
I'd exhaust my other options first but welding a plate on the back and replacing the lock isn't actually that bad if you find yourself stumped. Much cheaper than a locksmith. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 3:38:23 AM EDT
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I had the combo written down in a safe place, but it disappeared. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 3:41:46 AM EDT
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No need. I had a similar issue with mine. Drill a hole in the back big enough to slip a jigsaw blade into. Have a dozen decent metal cutting jigsaw blades just in case. Access panel was complete in 10 minutes, from door was open in another 5 min. Gun safes are actually pretty fucking useless.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 5:17:35 AM EDT
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Most gunsafes are a joke.
Just break it open if you don't care about it... Angle grinder, prybar, etc ,etc...  How Easy it is Breaking Into Safe  Breaking Into A Very Popular Chinese Gun Safe 4 Different Ways With A Drill Punch Attack |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 7:07:52 AM EDT
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I appreciate all the input and especially like all the digs and GIFs. I can take a Joke. I know it is probably my fault. I work stupid hours at a factory and that is why I can afford cool guns. Same job for 32 years. I will crack that bastard!  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/7/2020 2:32:54 AM EDT
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Finally Cracked it. Got the Lithium Battery, Jiggled the Handle. Bam!
I think the cheap ass linkage in there had something to do with it. Handle was blocking the solenoid. It couldn't blow the load without the Lithium. I appreciate all the help brothers! 
 [url=https://flic.kr/p/2iBwFYW]
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Posted: 3/7/2020 2:42:51 AM EDT
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Finally Cracked it. Got the Lithium Battery, Jiggled the Handle. Bam! I think the cheap ass linkage in there had something to do with it. Handle was blocking the solenoid. It couldn't blow the load without the Lithium. I appreciate all the help brothers!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49628822818_62faea3d60_z.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iBwFYW] |
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Posted: 3/7/2020 2:48:57 AM EDT
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I appreciate all the input and especially like all the digs and GIFs. I can take a Joke. I know it is probably my fault. I work stupid hours at a factory and that is why I can afford cool guns. Same job for 32 years. I will crack that bastard! |
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Posted: 3/7/2020 3:15:07 AM EDT
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Finally Cracked it. Got the Lithium Battery, Jiggled the Handle. Bam! I think the cheap ass linkage in there had something to do with it. Handle was blocking the solenoid. It couldn't blow the load without the Lithium. I appreciate all the help brothers!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49628822818_62faea3d60_z.jpgInkedimage0 (11)_LI by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/152091480@N03/] Any linkage(s) needs some grease periodically. PM is a thing. Where did you get that "Winchester" safe? Mine has a door that is plate steel (like 1/4" or 3/8"s thick). It looks a lot different. More pics if you can. Mine was from Sam's club maybe 10 years ago. Thanks for the closure on the issue. |
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Posted: 3/7/2020 3:21:48 AM EDT
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Just an FYI, you may not want to post pics using that hosting site as it lists your email address (which is your name). OPSEC and all. Might want to try imgur. It works great to host photos on here.
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Posted: 3/7/2020 3:29:41 AM EDT
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I bought it from Tractor Supply about 10 years ago. Might have been longer.
When I pulled the old battery, It expired in 2014, but still worked. That train layout is gone. Got everything boxed up though. You need some trains? |
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Posted: 3/7/2020 4:17:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just an FYI, you may not want to post pics using that hosting site as it lists your email address (which is your name). OPSEC and all. Might want to try imgur. It works great to host photos on here. |
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