Posted: 2/6/2004 9:01:56 PM EDT
| i'm connected to a college network that blocks P2P file sharing and even has a content filter. anyone know if it can be bypassed? it doesn't appear to be using a proxy (the proxy box is not checked in the LAN Settings menu). |
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Quoted: Yes, but why would I tell you? There's a reason the firewall is in place. You just don't understand. When you're in college, you actually know more than anyone else. They just don't get it, and are stupid poo-poo heads for not realizing that. Up the man! [img]http://img.infoplease.com/images/blackpower.jpg[/img] |
| WTF?! i ask i simple question 'cause i dont know shit about networks or firewalls or even what the word proxy means. i'm just restricted for downloading some things based on content (not sure what content exactly is being blocked, i can't even download the damn afgan video), and am asking if there's anyway around it. if i knew the answer, i wouldn't ask. if there's a reason why this shouldn't be done, tell me what it is so i'll quit trying and won't potentially harm anything. WTF?! |
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use anonymizer.com or another proxy. that's the easiest. Or, get help from on offsite friend with no help, use XP's remote desktop to operate from the remote site. Once you get the content you need, repackage it to get through the firewall (winzip) and get it in to your own computer. |
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Quoted: WTF?! i ask i simple question 'cause i dont know shit about networks or firewalls or even what the word proxy means. i'm just restricted for downloading some things based on content (not sure what content exactly is being blocked, i can't even download the damn afgan video), and am asking if there's anyway around it. if i knew the answer, i wouldn't ask. if there's a reason why this shouldn't be done, tell me what it is so i'll quit trying and won't potentially harm anything. WTF?! Couple of things come to mind. First off they haven't blocked AR15.com so it doesn't sound like draconian measures. They could be blocking downloads to protect the network from viri, then it could also be that they have decided on a cap on bandwidth usage. Any number of things. Now since some on arfcom have decided that outsourcing to india and other countries is a good thing, you need to call one of those india help lines. |
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Go talk to the CS/EE or IT majors. They might have a clue and they may have done it for the school. In any case, a firewall at a college is probably going to be a bitch to get around since every student is going to be trying to get around it. Do you get it free? and is it supposed to be for school purposes? And Ma Danby the Information Sciences lady around here reminded me to remind you that you don't want to do anything to lose your privileges. (To which I add - That means do it from somebody else's machine when they don't know you are breaking the rules.) |
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yes there's ways around, no im not telling you. its people like you that bring networks to their knees. "im different, only other people would abuse the network, i just want my P2P to work" you arent different, its becasue of people like you that institutions have to block port 1473 etc anyway. the RIAA and other industry groups are targeting the colleges who's users swap copywrited materiel. if youre a student at said college: get a job, get a house, and get broadband. then do what the hell you want. meanwhile quit crying about it while someone else is paying your bills. |
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Ok... You are not dealing with a traditional proxy. You are most likely dealing with an output-filtering firewall and possibly a transparent proxy. There is only ONE way around this, and that is to set up a SOCKS proxy on the outside, operating on an open port. The issue is that when running said proxy, you will be limited to the connection speed on which the proxy box is running, and it will likely have to be YOUR box (as the only open ports are going to be under 1024 (i.e. ports 21, 23, 25, 80 (ftp, telnet, e-mail, web)). So this means you're gonna need a broadband internet connection on the outside where you can set up a box... Unless you work in IS for a small company where your boss won't mind a personal server being setup, this means you gotta pay for broadband... P.S. For all you "he'll kill the network" people out there, said solution will not permit that much bandwidth use by nature of the limited bandwith mr student will be able to afford for his proxy... P.S. P.S. I graduated a little over a year ago, BS in MIS. Said solution WILL require a working knowledge of UNIX and TCP/IP networking... Basically, doing this sort of stuff is 'computer guy only' territory... |
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Do you have a login banner or warning of any type when you get on your school network? If so, I definitely wouldn't mess w/the controls that are in place. I'm actually happy to see a college that has some filtering in place. College/Univ LANS are usually hotbeds of virii propagation as well as having loads of trojans/worms/zombies installed on students' machines. Chat, "game" downloads and P2P are major contributors to the information security mess inherent in online computing these days. P2P is prob. blocked because of bandwidth concerns. If you were sharing the Paris Hilton video a month ago, for example, your box would have been hammered from the web. Your school and by extension, your tuition would be paying for a bunch of strangers to come into your network. |
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Quoted: Do you have a login banner or warning of any type when you get on your school network? If so, I definitely wouldn't mess w/the controls that are in place. I'm actually happy to see a college that has some filtering in place. College/Univ LANS are usually hotbeds of virii propagation as well as having loads of trojans/worms/zombies installed on students' machines. Chat, "game" downloads and P2P are major contributors to the information security mess inherent in online computing these days. P2P is prob. blocked because of bandwidth concerns. If you were sharing the Paris Hilton video a month ago, for example, your box would have been hammered from the web. Your school and by extension, your tuition would be paying for a bunch of strangers to come into your network. A point should be made: 'Network Logon' i.e. Windows or Novell is separate from internet access... Logging on to the network authenticates you to fileservers & other computers. Internet access (unless you have to put a L&P in whenever you launch Internet Explorer) is not normally controlled by logon (as I often demonstrated when I was a student by pressing 'escape' at the Novell logon prompt (because the school had a noxiously long login script to map all sorts of drives for applications I didn't use. The number of 'how can that be's I got was, well...). |
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Quoted: yes there's ways around, no im not telling you. its people like you that bring networks to their knees. "im different, only other people would abuse the network, i just want my P2P to work" you arent different, its becasue of people like you that institutions have to block port 1473 etc anyway. the RIAA and other industry groups are targeting the colleges who's users swap copywrited materiel. if youre a student at said college: get a job, get a house, and get broadband. then do what the hell you want. meanwhile quit crying about it while someone else is paying your bills. what's the deal man? why all the hate for college students? you know nothing about me, or what i have to pay for. how would you like it if a higher power was looking over your shoulder every time you browse the net, telling you what sites you can and can't visit and what media you can and can't download. sure it's their network, but who do you think pays them for it. it doesn't come from the pockets of the administration as a gift. and don't tell me you've never downloaded an mp3. sure, i downloaded my fair share back when it was new, but i don't listen to much music anymore and don't give a rat's ass about sharing copyrighted material. i have other, LEGAL reasons that have a need for large (several hundred MB) file sharing. how about next time you find something to base your opinions on besides a broad stereotype. everyone else, thank you for your input, but it appears this requires a level of computer knowledge beyond me. i guess i'll just use friends' computers for what i need. |
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Quoted: how would you like it if a higher power was looking over your shoulder every time you browse the net, telling you what sites you can and can't visit and what media you can and can't download. LOL! Wait til you get a job! It's no different. If you have a genuine "need" there should be a legit way to get it. Unless of course, you're one of the "special needs" students. j/k [;D] Welcome to the best damn "geeks with guns" website around... |
| yeah, the policies really aren't that draconian, but still inconvenient. i am looking for a way to send short films i make friends via the internet. way too big for email, and P2P and AIM direct connect are blocked. plus it's always annoying to be denied access to websites. won't have to live with it for too much longer though. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Do you have a login banner or warning of any type when you get on your school network? If so, I definitely wouldn't mess w/the controls that are in place. I'm actually happy to see a college that has some filtering in place. College/Univ LANS are usually hotbeds of virii propagation as well as having loads of trojans/worms/zombies installed on students' machines. Chat, "game" downloads and P2P are major contributors to the information security mess inherent in online computing these days. P2P is prob. blocked because of bandwidth concerns. If you were sharing the Paris Hilton video a month ago, for example, your box would have been hammered from the web. Your school and by extension, your tuition would be paying for a bunch of strangers to come into your network. A point should be made: 'Network Logon' i.e. Windows or Novell is separate from internet access... Logging on to the network authenticates you to fileservers & other computers. Internet access (unless you have to put a L&P in whenever you launch Internet Explorer) is not normally controlled by logon [red](as I often demonstrated when I was a student by pressing 'escape' at the Novell logon prompt (because the school had a noxiously long login script to map all sorts of drives for applications I didn't use. The number of 'how can that be's I got was, well...)[/red]. Yeah. I know.... but because you escape out of a login doesn't mean the school's login banner isn't there. I doubt if many people read them either. But they are there for a reason. The school's network is the school's property, not the student's. How many people see the warning banners on routers? Do you think hackers care? But they show that the school/company/whoever, has demonstrated to intruders that they are entering "private property". You prob don't read license agreements when you install software either. If you wind up in court, being sued by MicroSunHatOracleIBM they sure as hell will point out the little screen you clicked "I Agree" to. |
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[url]http://www.mirc.com/[/url] Irc may not be blocked so you could use it. There is a learning curve but you shouldnt have too much of a problem figuring out how to do what you want. Edited to add that if you do a google search on setting up a dcc server with irc you will probably be up and running in no time. |
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you aren't getting around the firewall, its part of your gateway.. ALL of your traffic goes through it. So what you have to do is "trick" it. As someone said... find a proxy... as long as your firewall allows you to connect to the proxy, you can browse at the proxys expense |