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Posted: 10/30/2019 9:38:52 PM EDT
I'm neither a NeverTrumper nor a Trump worshiper.

He's done some things that I think are good, like the Tax cuts, reducing a lot of regulation, going after China and making those Euro freeloaders start participating in their own defense. The economy is roaring and he gets to take credit for that.

He's also done some things that I think are horrible. I am mad as hell over his stance on gun control, the bump stock ban and thinking he's an emperor who can change the laws at whim.

He's fallen short on promises. How's the wall coming? How did Repeal and Replace Obamacare go? Why are we seeing illegals coming to America in caravans instead of ending illegal immigration?

Overall, I give him a C+.

But this impeachment shit is pissing me off. These fucking idiot Democrats are one year away from an election. One year! Instead of running on issues and building a platform that the American people want to vote for, what are they doing? They're trotting out a bunch of absolute morons and trying to compensate for their ineptitude by running a secret inquisition, leaking the details to their fellow travelers in the media and hoping that the voters are too dumb to see what's going on.

I'm sick of it. I don't want to hear about it anymore, but it's all I hear about. Even sports, I can't watch the World Series on TV without them booing the President for going to a baseball game.

I'm voting for Trump again. They can kiss my ass. If they impeach him, I'll vote him right back into office. I swear it. One thing that I have in common with Donald Trump, for absolute certainty: Trump's enemies are also my enemies, and the people who are out to get him are out to get me...and you! Don't kid yourself.
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I agree with this.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:40:33 PM EDT
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In the same boat to be honest.
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I'm neither a NeverTrumper nor a Trump worshiper.

He's done some things that I think are good, like the Tax cuts, reducing a lot of regulation, going after China and making those Euro freeloaders start participating in their own defense. The economy is roaring and he gets to take credit for that.

He's also done some things that I think are horrible. I am mad as hell over his stance on gun control, the bump stock ban and thinking he's an emperor who can change the laws at whim.

He's fallen short on promises. How's the wall coming? How did Repeal and Replace Obamacare go? Why are we seeing illegals coming to America in caravans instead of ending illegal immigration?

Overall, I give him a C+

But this impeachment shit is pissing me off. These fucking idiot Democrats are one year away from an election. One year! Instead of running on issues and building a platform that the American people want to vote for, what are they doing? They're trotting out a bunch of absolute morons and trying to compensate for their ineptitude by running a secret inquisition, leaking the details to their fellow travelers in the media and hoping that the voters are too dumb to see what's going on.

I'm sick of it. I don't want to hear about it anymore, but it's all I hear about. Even sports, I can't watch the World Series on TV without them booing the President for going to a baseball game.

I'm voting for Trump again. They can kiss my ass. If they impeach him, I'll vote him right back into office. I swear it. One thing that I have in common with Donald Trump, for absolute certainty: Trump's enemies are also my enemies, and the people who are out to get him are out to get me...and you! Don't kid yourself.
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I believe he needs the Congress critters and the judiciary to go along with him for the issues you say he fell short on . I believe he’s done a hell of a job considering everybody trying to de-rail every single fucking thing he’s trying to accomplish in his first 4 years . I give him an A + !
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Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:44:53 PM EDT
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I think the country is done if Trump loses.

The dems have learned from 1992 and 2008.  Their first legislative acts won't be taxes hikes or "medicare for all" (although those will happen), they will be amnesty for illegals, and a new "voting rights acts" to ensure dem control for decades.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:44:54 PM EDT
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The Democrats hate the people who voted for Trump as much as they hate Trump.

Just remember that.

They can't wait to take over all three branches of Government so they can punish people who dared to vote for him.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:46:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:48:56 PM EDT
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It’s easy, they know there is no way they can defeat him in the election; they are utilizing alternate means. The left hates Trump(us) more than they love their country.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:49:10 PM EDT
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I think the country is done if Trump loses.

The dems have learned from 1992 and 2008.  Their first legislative acts won't be taxes hikes or "medicare for all" (although those will happen), they will be amnesty for illegals, and a new "voting rights acts" to ensure dem control for decades.
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Basically.

We can fuss and fight all we want inside the administration or Republican Party but once the term is over, the choice is Democratic Socialism or Trump.

Middle ground in America is rapidly dying.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:50:27 PM EDT
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I never stopped supporting most of his actions he just lost my future vote on guns, plain and simple.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:51:06 PM EDT
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I'm sort of the opposite.

I never even considered not voting against the Democrats. I've been a somewhat reluctant Trump supporter ever since the SC primary.

I'm getting tired of his shit. Not gonna change my vote, but I hate hearing Trump talk with my kids in the room.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:52:11 PM EDT
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Well stated OP.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:52:50 PM EDT
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I'm neither a NeverTrumper nor a Trump worshiper.

He's also done some things that I think are horrible. I am mad as hell over his stance on gun control, the bump stock ban and thinking he's an emperor who can change the laws at whim.

He's fallen short on promises. How's the wall coming? How did Repeal and Replace Obamacare go? Why are we seeing illegals coming to America in caravans instead of ending illegal immigration?
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So you hate him for acting like an emperor to change laws and then hate him because he can’t act like an emperor to change laws. Got it.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:53:50 PM EDT
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He's fallen short on promises. How's the wall coming? How did Repeal and Replace Obamacare go? Why are we seeing illegals coming to America in caravans instead of ending illegal immigration?
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1. The Wall is coming along just fine, 2. don’t blame Trump for Obamacare not being repealed, blame McCain and the rest of the never trump republicans, 3. we are always going to see illegals coming to this country, go back to the first question I answered for you, the Wall will drastically cut back on illegal entries.

Glad to see you have changed your mind about casting your vote for him, considering all he has to face 24/7 from the media, Dems, and Never Trumpers, I’d say he’s done exceptionally well.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:54:17 PM EDT
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It’s a two party system.    You’d have to be a straight up Idiot to not vote against democrats at every opportunity.

Not you, specifically OP.    Anyone who doesn’t understand that it’s a choice between the lesser of two evils; is an Idiot

Politics is an ugly business at best.    There is no limit to the ignorance and hubris of the average never-trumper.    The self proclaimed “one issue voters” are the worst.  
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:55:08 PM EDT
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In the same boat to be honest.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:55:28 PM EDT
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Don’t you love it when a plan comes together.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:57:42 PM EDT
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500 miles of border wall to be built by the end of 2020

President Donald Trump Tours the Progress on the Border Wall in San Diego, CA


Even though it's not the whole wall he wants he has fought tooth and nail to have it put up. What other candidate would have?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 9:57:44 PM EDT
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I'm sort of the opposite.

I never even considered not voting against the Democrats. I've been a somewhat reluctant Trump supporter ever since the SC primary.

I'm getting tired of his shit. Not gonna change my vote, but I hate hearing Trump talk with my kids in the room.
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Specifically what is it you don’t want your kids hearing? Do you want them hearing about how guilty they should be for being an American. He speaks bluntly and truthfully about our country and it’s enemies. Your kids need to hear that from someone if not you.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:01:42 PM EDT
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I would be a bigger fan if he would just shut his mouth.

His 4 years in office have been more beneficial for my investments than any other presidents 8 year run.   I could handle 4 more years of Trump.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:02:10 PM EDT
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I never stopped supporting most of his actions he just lost my future vote on guns, plain and simple.
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Your really going to hate gun legislation after trump loses because of people like you.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:03:19 PM EDT
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The wall is being built and illegal immagration is declining.  Mexico is in fact turning hordes back and tens of thousands in mexico waiting for their asylum cases are turning back.

The gun shit definitely blows.  But whether it be 87d chess or dumb luck with impeachment Trump has taken gun issues off the table.  Could that change, sure. But for now the 2nd is safe.

He's pulling our asses out of never ending wars.  His economy is booming and he gets all the credit.

Sure the swamp is still swamp and stubborn to drain.  And yep the debt is still out of control.

But the dems have made it clear, they hate cops, capitalism, nuclear families, Christianity, babies, the constitution. Freedom, and prosperity.  Despite Trump's less than 100% arfcom approval rating he is at the very least 87% better than any other option.

So he gets a b+
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:05:19 PM EDT
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Option #1: Trump loses in 2020.

A) Dems enact amnesty for illegals, and "voter rights bill" ensuring RAT control for decades
B) Dems get two USSC nominations right off the bat, and the court flips to DEM control if one of the conservative judges has to retire
C) RINOs and GOPe re-assert control over the GOP, and nominate a "loser" candidate in 2024, ensuring two terms for the dem

Option #2: Trump wins in 2020.

A) Trump continues to slowly but surely drain the swamp
B) Trump gets 2-4 USSC nominations.  Most likely scenario is a 6-3 conservative court by 2024
C) Half of the all the circuit and district judges will the Trump nominees, and Trump will flip the 9th circuit to GOP-judge control by 2024
D) Trump wins the re-districting/census battles, ensuring conservative control of the House through 2032
E)  RINOs are done, and Trump fully controls the GOP
F)  Many other things, known and unknown, too numerous to list
G) Paves the way for an even more conservative candidate to run and win in 2024

Which of these scenarios is better for the RKBA?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:06:11 PM EDT
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I never stopped supporting most of his actions he just lost my future vote on guns, plain and simple.
Your really going to hate gun legislation after trump loses because of people like you.
I remember when the Heller decision went our way in June of 2008.  I was happy as hell and excited.  Of course, our economy was going south and Obama was rising to the top.  Over the next few years (prior to Sandy Hook) all I could think about was us being some shit economy with lots of guns.  Don't worry, I've got my guns but no job and no money to buy ammo or anything else.

Of course, most of us including myself were OK during those times but the change in the nation was noticable under Obama and then after Sandy Hook the Dems immediate emotional reaction in NY, CT, MD, CO, etc. there went some firearms rights.

What we're seeing now is a fight within and outside of the government for a power base.  Whether you like him or hate him Trump is representing the people left behind by the elitist thought bubbles on the coasts and in the rocky mountain highs of Denver, CO.  They are going to impeach him and they have a scheme to get rid of him even with a R majority in the Senate...and I think the Rs will go along with it.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:09:47 PM EDT
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Even if you think Trump is way less than optimum, how can anyone NOT vote against the screeching leftist harpies that are in charge of the Dem ticket and shaping the Dem platforms??

Jeez, pro open borders, pro reparations, pro debt forgiveness, anti male, anti white, anti gun, anti capitalism, anti military, anti police. The list goes on and on........
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:12:25 PM EDT
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The leaker is a Liberal plant.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html
Can someone make this link hot for me ?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:13:32 PM EDT
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Maybe this latest outrage from Drumpf will change your tune, OP:

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-gives-chewbacca-long-awaited-medal-for-heroic-acts-in-battle-of-yavin
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But that happened a long time ago!
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:16:55 PM EDT
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The choice is simple: communism or Trump.

I’ll take my chances with Trump.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:25:02 PM EDT
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Trump is laughing all the way to Election Day knowing gun owning cucks will still vote for him no matter what he does.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:30:03 PM EDT
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Trump is laughing all the way to Election Day knowing gun owning cucks will still vote for him no matter what he does.
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Is there another realistic option?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:31:34 PM EDT
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Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:34:28 PM EDT
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i don't think most gun owners strongly support gun rights

kinda sucks to be in the minority, but i won't vote
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:34:45 PM EDT
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Trump is laughing all the way to Election Day knowing gun owning cucks will still vote for him no matter what he does.
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At this point, it ain't about him anymore. To be honest.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:35:51 PM EDT
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So you hate him for acting like an emperor to change laws and then hate him because he can’t act like an emperor to change laws. Got it.
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That describes a lot of people here.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:36:10 PM EDT
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You are right where I am.

I was never going go vote against Trump because the democrats are batshit crazy...but I am behind the man 100%
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:37:23 PM EDT
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i don't think most gun owners strongly support gun rights

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Socialists thank you.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:44:37 PM EDT
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i don't think most gun owners strongly support gun rights

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Smart, you certainly won't be affected by the tally of those votes

Dumbest shit I ever read
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:46:55 PM EDT
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We have a choice between a turd and shit sandwich.

Turds will takes guns and freedoms away a little bit quicker. I’ll vote for shit sandwich.

Brown smile goes away eventually.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:48:15 PM EDT
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i don't think most gun owners strongly support gun rights

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Dumbest reply ever.
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 10:54:20 PM EDT
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The leaker is a Liberal plant.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html
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https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html
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Incorrect.

The Dems hate the people who voted for Trump.

The Dems see Trump as the symptom, not the disease. We're the disease. The basket of irredeemable deplorables put Trump in power.

Do you think that they want to eliminate the electoral college because of Trump, or because of us?
Do you think that they want to confiscate our guns because of Trump, or because of us?
Do you think that they want to change the demographics of this country because of Trump, or because of us?
Link Posted: 10/30/2019 11:21:12 PM EDT
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The Democrats hate the people who voted for Trump as much as they hate Trump.

Just remember that.

They can't wait to take over all three branches of Government so they can punish people who dared to vote for him.
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Truth. Frightening. Truth.

Our Republic is in grave danger.
Link Posted: 10/31/2019 12:43:40 AM EDT
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+1 on everything!
Link Posted: 10/31/2019 12:50:41 AM EDT
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I like Trump's shit talking. I like the things he's been able to deliver. Overall I like his presidency.

Congress, even when he had both houses, has done nothing to help him.

The alternatives are horrific.

I'll be voting for him again.
Link Posted: 10/31/2019 12:53:08 AM EDT
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The Democrats hate the people who voted for Trump as much as they hate Trump.

Just remember that.

They can't wait to take over all three branches of Government so they can punish people who dared to vote for him.
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Sadly I see this as a college student. I've had conversations with my professors about their political views. They hate conspiracy theories, yet they've falsely (at this time with all known evidence) accused many political rivals, and swear their is proof against these rivals but only come back with accusations. It's entertaining but at the same time kind of scary for the future generations if it continues this way.
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I believe he needs the Congress critters and the judiciary to go along with him for the issues you say he fell short on . I believe he’s done a hell of a job considering everybody trying to de-rail every single fucking thing he’s trying to accomplish in his first 4 years . I give him an A + !
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My opinion too. Except for his 2A weakness. I knock him down to A- for that.
Link Posted: 10/31/2019 7:01:09 AM EDT
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The Democrats hate the people who voted for Trump as much as they hate Trump.

Just remember that.

They can't wait to take over all three branches of Government so they can punish people who dared to vote for him.
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In other words, they hate average American citizens and want to punish us.
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It’s easy, they know there is no way they can defeat him in the election; they are utilizing alternate means. The left hates Trump(us) more than they love their country.
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Trump represents average American citizens, that what the left hates.

Leftists: “The only problem with America is Americans.”
Link Posted: 10/31/2019 7:07:14 AM EDT
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Your really going to hate gun legislation after trump loses because of people like you.
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Exactly. People's shortsightedness is amazing sometimes.
Link Posted: 10/31/2019 7:09:27 AM EDT
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And they don't love this country at all
Link Posted: 10/31/2019 7:20:10 AM EDT
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Sounds like you are an average person.

Now suppose it's worse than you think. Suppose all the congressional Democrats and half the Republicans are corrupt. Blackmailed or willing participants of a system of greed and corruption that has looted America's wealth, sold military secrets to our enemies, gotten our citizens killed, and destroyed our institutions, from private corporations to the criminal justice system.

Don't you see this isn't happenstance; it's their agenda to make us a modern slave state to be ruled by liars, cheats and phonies?

Imagine you are trying to save the country from traitors, criminals, and a society controlled by evil people, while under threat of nuclear attack if we demonstrate any great weakness or serious division.

Would you want the support of whatever portion of the country hasn't drunk the liberal Kool-Aid?

Give Trump the benefit of the doubt. Watch.
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