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Posted: 10/17/2019 10:22:36 AM EDT

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LoL, do you even Boogaloo, Bro?

Posted: 10/17/2019 10:24:28 AM EDT

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Bugaloo Dance Party

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Posted: 10/17/2019 10:31:36 AM EDT

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Isn’t this one of the functions of GD? Bitch?

The biggest issue is that fact that since people bitch, instead of follow the rules (like if a Mod takes action and the member believes it wasn't warranted, bring in Site Staff for review) they just add fuel to the fire and bitch.

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Posted: 10/17/2019 10:31:56 AM EDT

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How did a thread about stamping out what makes GD work turn into a Civil rights discussion...

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Do you think blacks are 100% free now because they hid?

They're free because white people made them free.

Im really talking civil rights post WWII.

Would the Civil Rights Movement have succeeded without the support of whites?

No, but it also would not have succeeded without black people saying "I'm tired of this shit, and I'm gonna put a stop to it by peacefully sitting at the lunch counter, peacefully sitting in the front of the bus, etc."

How did a thread about stamping out what makes GD work turn into a Civil rights discussion...

We are talking about this site's stance that they will enforce any law on this site, by any jurisdiction, no matter how insane.

Civil rights, in our case black gun ownership, must be fought for publicly. Not in hiding. And civil disobedience and the exposure of civil disobedience is an important tool in that process.

Look at the marijuana movement.

Posted: 10/17/2019 10:33:03 AM EDT

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Fuck no.... I ain't resigning as a Mod. I already did and resigned a lot IRL by becoming a investigator and riding a desk instead of a marked unit and having a Puerto Rican wife (she is the best boss ever) and now a newborn daughter. All I have left is being a Mod and wasting site resources.

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This is a very nice resignation letter.

Fuck no.... I ain't resigning as a Mod. I already did and resigned a lot IRL by becoming a investigator and riding a desk instead of a marked unit and having a Puerto Rican wife (she is the best boss ever) and now a newborn daughter. All I have left is being a Mod and wasting site resources.

We suffer because you have no social life or sleep.

Posted: 10/17/2019 10:40:39 AM EDT

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This is a very nice resignation letter.

Fuck no.... I ain't resigning as a Mod. I already did and resigned a lot IRL by becoming a investigator and riding a desk instead of a marked unit and having a Puerto Rican wife (she is the best boss ever) and now a newborn daughter. All I have left is being a Mod and wasting site resources.

We suffer because you have no social life or sleep.

Posted: 10/17/2019 11:09:30 AM EDT

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Or maybe you should learn to treat people civilly without name calling.
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People shouldn't have to tolerate being verbally abused because they post their opinion on a website

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Agreed. If you can't disagree with someone without getting insulting then you have zero social skills.

Posted: 10/17/2019 11:12:13 AM EDT

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If I could do it all over again, I would have made my account name "General Discussion."

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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:23:34 PM EDT

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None ofnus are immune from it.

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Fo.

Posted: 10/17/2019 1:32:21 PM EDT

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They're free because white people made them free.

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and it cost them dearly

Posted: 10/17/2019 1:32:52 PM EDT

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I honestly believe that tempers are high here for a number of reasons. Politics, the changing in user age demographics, the constant assault on the 2nd Amendment, the paranoia of Social Media and how it is being used in Red Flag Laws, the change in Ownership due to a topic that is being kept in Team GD, and a whole bunch of other shit.

I can honestly say that my limited experience as a Mod here really has shown me how hard it is to make everyone happy. It is impossible. TBS and the rest of the Site Staff has really wanted to clean up GD and the website as a whole. But it can't be a heavy handed approach. It is a fine balancing act. The problem is, differing opinions are just that.

What some think the problem is of trolling in reality is someone else having a differing opinion. When some here think this is a Pro Trump site gets all pissy when someone else have a criticism of the President they accuse others of being Never Trumpers. The same can be said with the Pro/Anti LE discussions. I'm for legit criticism of cops when they fuck up. Just as I am about the military and government as a whole. But we draw sides and just beat each other to death over stupid shit.

The biggest issue is that fact that since people bitch, instead of follow the rules (like if a Mod takes action and the member believes it wasn't warranted, bring in Site Staff for review) they just add fuel to the fire and bitch. Seriously, if you feel a Mod did something you don't agree with. Contact the Mod and discuss it or contact Site Staff. They'll review it and if need be smack the Mod and say "No, bad Mod" if it is a legit fuck up on the Mod.

Another issue is that the community shouldn't be and isn't based simply on the most popular members get a pass at shit and for a bit, it kinda happened. And now that the rules are being applied more across the board. Shit is getting warnings for something that originally would have been swept under the rug. But that comes back to people taking shit way to seriously on some stuff.

I can also tell you this.

It honestly is pretty hard to be permanently banned from here and even then, most are allowed to come back. I was banned for stupid shit and allowed to come back after I apologized and agreed to follow the rules, which honestly I try. I don't want to have issues with other members here. Even the ones I don't always agree with. Because guess what.... I do agree with them on other shit.

I firmly believe this is a great place and it still could be in the future. But I think people are taking things way too seriously. (Myself included sometimes, again... emotional investment in certain topics, stress from daily life, etc. None ofnus are immune from it.)

Look, I ain't perfect. I sure as shit known that. We all have fucked up here. Arfcom is a great community with a great group of folks. We all have our own personal shit to deal with outside of Arfcom. Kids, jobs, debt, family, health, etc.... sometimes, that shit bleeds over here.

The CoC is pretty easy to understand and follow. Additionally, I think we all need to take a deep breath, Members Mods, Staff, etc.... take a deep breath. Arfcom is a hell of a community that has given me some great friends that I've had the pleasure of meeting in person at NRAAM, SHOT, Cola Warrior, the Retro Shoot, and just across daily life.

So let's all chill the fuck out. We all fuck up, we all get heated, we all get emotionally invested in shit, etc....

And yes, I'm a Waste of Site Resources and so is this Thread.

Edit, to fix a typo and waste even more site resources.

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Sorry your girl lost.

Posted: 10/17/2019 1:33:57 PM EDT

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The people I use the ignore feature on earned that by the nature of their commentary, not because I expect them to agree with me on every issue. And I used to take them off ignore, only to find that they hadn't changed. Do now, they stay there

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I don't have a single person on ignore. Never have, even the blatant trolls

How many do you have?

Posted: 10/17/2019 3:59:36 PM EDT

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Let me get this straight. You think that personal attacks on other members should be allowed?

Way back when I rode my dinosaur to school we used to have a saying, "sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me - unless you manage to shove them up my ass - and I ain't going for that."....or something like that.

I don't really care what anybody calls me - just as long as they call me for vittles.

But did your vagina ever get hurt?

Noop.

Posted: 10/17/2019 4:07:01 PM EDT

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If you want to solve 98%of all problems here simply give the original poster of each thread unrestricted authority to ban a member from posting in his thread and the ability to delete any posts he wants to in the thread.

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That sure sounds like a tactic to squelch opposing viewpoints that the leftists use today, but you forgot the needed button to add a swastika and KKK hood to the posts you disagree with. Perfect if you can't handle anyone taking exception to your thesis.

Anybody posting on any internet website should welcome civil discourse without fear of reprisal by the easily butthurt. But many can't handle anything other than an echo-chamber. Lightweights.

Posted: 10/17/2019 4:45:01 PM EDT

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And yes, this website should allow civil disobedience of laws that violate the 2nd. Especially state laws that are hyper restrictive.

Do you think marijuana is legal because they hid?

Do you think blacks are 100% free now because they hid?

Did the US win its freedom because they hid?

You dont keep the 2nd A alive by continually retreating as new laws are passed.

Hiding is losing.

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We need a black rifle story time, not self censorship, shame and hand wringing.

Posted: 10/17/2019 4:47:16 PM EDT

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I for one think you are doing a great job. WTF is a mod?

Posted: 10/17/2019 5:03:01 PM EDT

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And yes, this website should allow civil disobedience of laws that violate the 2nd. Especially state laws that are hyper restrictive.

Do you think marijuana is legal because they hid?

Do you think blacks are 100% free now because they hid?

Did the US win its freedom because they hid?

You dont keep the 2nd A alive by continually retreating as new laws are passed.

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You're asking someone to sacrifice their investment for your cause. They simply don't have to. You're not entitled to someone else's property. Why would you put up with this anyway, if the cause is so important? Make your own site and do whatever you want. I think you know what would happen though, and that's why you want to use someone else's site instead.

Posted: 10/17/2019 5:20:02 PM EDT

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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:33:12 PM EDT

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This is a good place has helped me alot.

Posted: 10/17/2019 5:42:12 PM EDT

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Now that you've asked, it occurs to me that we have no female Mods, as far as I know.

This one has passed over this past year:

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Posted: 10/17/2019 6:35:36 PM EDT

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I don't envy your job. Being a mod for a gun forum is extremely difficult because gun nuts like us tend to be very opinionated individualists. Our strong adherence to the 2A is what bound us together. Whereas being a mod on forums such as DU must be easy. As those people like to be lead and told what to do. Thus much docile to deal with, at least to their kind. So hang in there. Don't let it get to your head. You are still my favorite JBT.

Posted: 10/17/2019 6:37:34 PM EDT

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“Not much”

Posted: 10/17/2019 7:53:06 PM EDT

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You're asking someone to sacrifice their investment for your cause. They simply don't have to. You're not entitled to someone else's property. Why would you put up with this anyway, if the cause is so important? Make your own site and do whatever you want. I think you know what would happen though, and that's why you want to use someone else's site instead.

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https://www.erowid.org/

And yes, this website should allow civil disobedience of laws that violate the 2nd. Especially state laws that are hyper restrictive.

Do you think marijuana is legal because they hid?

Do you think blacks are 100% free now because they hid?

Did the US win its freedom because they hid?

You dont keep the 2nd A alive by continually retreating as new laws are passed.

Hiding is losing.

You're asking someone to sacrifice their investment for your cause. They simply don't have to. You're not entitled to someone else's property. Why would you put up with this anyway, if the cause is so important? Make your own site and do whatever you want. I think you know what would happen though, and that's why you want to use someone else's site instead.

No, I'm asking them to just do what they would say they would do.

"They see the importance, now more than ever, for having a free, unfiltered forum of pro-Constitutional voices and ideas to be heard. Put simply, they share in our vision for the future of AR15.com."

Posted: 10/17/2019 8:29:10 PM EDT

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No, I'm asking them to just do what they would say they would do.

"They see the importance, now more than ever, for having a free, unfiltered forum of pro-Constitutional voices and ideas to be heard. Put simply, they share in our vision for the future of AR15.com."

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I don't think they ever promised suicide. But, hold your breath I guess.

Posted: 10/17/2019 8:33:53 PM EDT

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I don't think they ever promised suicide. But, hold your breath I guess.

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No, I'm asking them to just do what they would say they would do.

"They see the importance, now more than ever, for having a free, unfiltered forum of pro-Constitutional voices and ideas to be heard. Put simply, they share in our vision for the future of AR15.com."

I don't think they ever promised suicide. But, hold your breath I guess.

That’s the catch 22 isn’t it?

If you ban civil disobedience against unjust/unconstitutional gun laws the site will not have a purpose for existing as semi autos will be banned. By refusing to fight back they will guarantee their own demise. Sounds almost like suicide.

There will be a serious attempt at the Federal level against the 2nd Amendment in the next decade once the dems have congress and the White House. Being good little boys isn’t going to save us.

The site staff should be thinking hard about their CoC policy. Which as of right now is as Sherrick described:

“.....they will enforce any law on this site, by any jurisdiction, no matter how insane.“

Time to go make my 30 round magazine necklace.

Posted: 10/17/2019 8:46:11 PM EDT

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I for one think you are doing a great job. WTF is a mod?

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A pain in the ass.

Posted: 10/17/2019 9:09:14 PM EDT

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The site staff should be thinking hard about their CoC policy.

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What is there to think about? You can't have a site without hosting. Serving content that causes your host to turn you off means you're done. No more web site. I'm a professional nerd but still, this can't be that hard for a layman to understand. If everyone refuses to connect your computer to the internet, then you don't have a site anymore. An internet connection is a service with terms and conditions like any other. You have to play by the rules or they turn you off.

By the way, ff you really do have an answer for this problem you're sitting on what is effectively an infinite supply of money. Even if you chose to only offer your solution to freedom-oriented organizations, you could make millions of dollars a day. Immunity from deplatforming is practically priceless.

Posted: 10/17/2019 9:14:41 PM EDT

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I don't think they ever promised suicide. But, hold your breath I guess.

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No, I'm asking them to just do what they would say they would do.

"They see the importance, now more than ever, for having a free, unfiltered forum of pro-Constitutional voices and ideas to be heard. Put simply, they share in our vision for the future of AR15.com."

I don't think they ever promised suicide. But, hold your breath I guess.

The didn't promise anything. They made a statement. I just would like them to stand by that statement or rescind it.

The worst types of organizations are ones that say one thing and do another.

Posted: 10/17/2019 9:29:02 PM EDT

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The didn't promise anything. They made a statement. I just would like them to stand by that statement or rescind it.

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I think they probably didn't realize how that statement would be understood. They would have done themselves a favor if they spent some time here first understanding the culture, specifically how so many people here don't see this as a gun forum. Or, they could be amazingly stupid and they really did mean to say their plan was to destroy their business for the sake of a gun forum but it's hard to believe they would have gotten this far if their judgement was that poor. Honestly it's a bit far fetched to believe their intent here was completely screwing themselves and losing their business so they could help total strangers to make a political statement of questionable effectiveness but I admit I'm a cynic. They could at least do something that would help, that would be a lot better for everyone.

Posted: 10/17/2019 9:43:05 PM EDT

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Posted: 10/17/2019 10:40:14 PM EDT

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"I did not have sex with that woman"

"Wait?"

"It depends on what the meaning of"IS" is.

Posted: 10/17/2019 10:42:36 PM EDT

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I think they probably didn't realize how that statement would be understood. They would have done themselves a favor if they spent some time here first understanding the culture, specifically how so many people here don't see this as a gun forum. Or, they could be amazingly stupid and they really did mean to say their plan was to destroy their business for the sake of a gun forum but it's hard to believe they would have gotten this far if their judgement was that poor. Honestly it's a bit far fetched to believe their intent here was completely screwing themselves and losing their business so they could help total strangers to make a political statement of questionable effectiveness but I admit I'm a cynic. They could at least do something that would help, that would be a lot better for everyone.

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The didn't promise anything. They made a statement. I just would like them to stand by that statement or rescind it.

The worst types of organizations are ones that say one thing and do another.

I think they probably didn't realize how that statement would be understood. They would have done themselves a favor if they spent some time here first understanding the culture, specifically how so many people here don't see this as a gun forum. Or, they could be amazingly stupid and they really did mean to say their plan was to destroy their business for the sake of a gun forum but it's hard to believe they would have gotten this far if their judgement was that poor. Honestly it's a bit far fetched to believe their intent here was completely screwing themselves and losing their business so they could help total strangers to make a political statement of questionable effectiveness but I admit I'm a cynic. They could at least do something that would help, that would be a lot better for everyone.

Oh just fucking stop.

They didn't realize how 'unfiltered pro Constitution" would be understood.

yeah, ok

And on top of that. I thought Brownell's didn't have anything to do with the change. Oh wait, nothing's changed.

Pissing down my back and telling me it is raining.

Posted: 10/17/2019 10:44:20 PM EDT

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I respected you more before I saw how you act when given power.

I'm disappointed in you, and in myself for having supported you in the past.

Posted: 10/17/2019 10:49:13 PM EDT

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Posted: 10/17/2019 10:54:51 PM EDT

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Oh just fucking stop.

They didn't realize how 'unfiltered pro Constitution" would be understood.

yeah, ok

And on top of that. I thought Brownell's didn't have anything to do with the change. Oh wait, nothing's changed.

Pissing down my back and telling me it is raining.

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Okay, fine. They thought that surely no one would believe that guests would be allowed to burn the house down. I do understand now that you believe that. I'm convinced. I think we should both be satisfied with that.

Posted: 10/17/2019 11:05:53 PM EDT

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Okay, fine. They thought that surely no one would believe that guests would be allowed to burn the house down. I do understand now that you believe that. I'm convinced. I think we should both be satisfied with that.

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Oh just fucking stop.

They didn't realize how 'unfiltered pro Constitution" would be understood.

yeah, ok

And on top of that. I thought Brownell's didn't have anything to do with the change. Oh wait, nothing's changed.

Pissing down my back and telling me it is raining.

Okay, fine. They thought that surely no one would believe that guests would be allowed to burn the house down. I do understand now that you believe that. I'm convinced. I think we should both be satisfied with that.

Hmmm, did it burn down before all this? Because if it did. I sure didn't notice it. Why, after over 20 years is all this stuff all the sudden a danger to the site's existence?

History refutes your argument.

Posted: 10/17/2019 11:11:17 PM EDT

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Hmmm, did it burn down before all this? Because if it did. I sure didn't notice it. Why, after over 20 years is all this stuff all the sudden a danger to the site's existence?

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You don't need to convince me that this is your web site. You'll have to convince the owners.

Posted: 10/17/2019 11:20:43 PM EDT

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Sure as fuck doesn’t look that way.

Posted: 10/17/2019 11:26:00 PM EDT

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Sure as fuck doesn’t look that way.

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I'm not the one trying to make a case that I'm entitled to someone else's property just because I really really want it.

Posted: 10/17/2019 11:47:00 PM EDT

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You don't need to convince me that this is your web site. You'll have to convince the owners.

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Hmmm, did it burn down before all this? Because if it did. I sure didn't notice it. Why, after over 20 years is all this stuff all the sudden a danger to the site's existence?

History refutes your argument.

You don't need to convince me that this is your web site. You'll have to convince the owners.

One. That doesn't make any sense.

Two. What the hell do you think many of us long timers are doing? Bitching because it's fun seeing the site we've enjoyed for decades go downhill?

Posted: 10/17/2019 11:49:43 PM EDT

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One. That doesn't make any sense.

Two. What the hell do you think many of us long timers are doing? Bitching because it's fun seeing the site we've enjoyed for decades go downhill?

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You don't have a solution is my point. You're trying to convince them to destroy their business. Tell me how you plan for them to do what you want and continue to stay in business. You don't have an answer, or you would have plainly stated it by now.

Posted: 10/18/2019 12:20:31 AM EDT

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Posted: 10/18/2019 12:24:30 AM EDT

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I respected you more before I saw how you act when given power.

I'm disappointed in you, and in myself for having supported you in the past.

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Posted: 10/18/2019 6:24:21 AM EDT

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No, I'm asking them to just do what they would say they would do.

"They see the importance, now more than ever, for having a free, unfiltered forum of pro-Constitutional voices and ideas to be heard. Put simply, they share in our vision for the future of AR15.com."

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Posted: 10/18/2019 7:27:47 AM EDT

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You don't have a solution is my point. You're trying to convince them to destroy their business. Tell me how you plan for them to do what you want and continue to stay in business. You don't have an answer, or you would have plainly stated it by now.

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One. That doesn't make any sense.

Two. What the hell do you think many of us long timers are doing? Bitching because it's fun seeing the site we've enjoyed for decades go downhill?

You don't have a solution is my point. You're trying to convince them to destroy their business. Tell me how you plan for them to do what you want and continue to stay in business. You don't have an answer, or you would have plainly stated it by now.

Maybe the solution is to risk being bold and unfiltered in 2nd Amendment advocacy, before guns are so tightly regulated as to render the whole point of owning the forum (selling gun stuff) moot.

Posted: 10/18/2019 7:31:43 AM EDT

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The site Mods all get bitchin' scooters? I was wondering where all those membership $'s went

Posted: 10/18/2019 7:38:51 AM EDT

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Good talk. Can we have Sylvan back now?

Posted: 10/18/2019 8:23:34 AM EDT

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I for one think you are doing a great job. WTF is a mod?

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In the 80s I had a "mods are wankers" pin on my super cool punk rock leather jacket. It would be a big hit around here.

Posted: 10/18/2019 8:32:31 AM EDT

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Maybe the solution is to risk be bold and unfiltered in 2nd Amendment advocacy before guns are so tightly regulated as to render the whole point of owning the forum (selling gun stuff) moot.

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Your solution is to tell someone else to take risks.