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The only thing I take issue with is "the coc is easy to understand."

I used to think that. Now we lock threads Staff is participating in or threads that duplicate posts Staff made in the past.

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All those words yet Sylvan is still banned while the leftist assclown twins roam free.

That's the thing about a martyr. All the words in the dictionary can't be twisted enough to make it right.

First they came for the Sylvans, but I wasn't one...

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You've got 20 years of culture here, and in a blink it was sold to brownells then caved to feels from Amazon.

Yea, so people be upset.

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That stick is planted really deep

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I honestly believe that tempters are high here for a number of reasons. Politics, the changing in user age demographics, the constant assault on the 2nd Amendment, the paranoia of Social Media and how it is being used in Red Flag Laws, the change in Ownership due to a topic that is being kept in Team GD, and a whole bunch of other shit.

I can honestly say that my limited experience as a Mod here really has shown me how hard it is to make everyone happy. It is impossible. TBS and the rest of the Site Staff has really wanted to clean up GD and the website as a whole. But it can't be a heavy handed approach. It is a fine balancing act. The problem is, differing opinions are just that.

What some think the problem is of trolling in reality is someone else having a differing opinion. When some here think this is a Pro Trump site gets all pissy when someone else have a criticism of the President they accuse others of being Never Trumpers. The same can be said with the Pro/Anti LE discussions. I'm for legit criticism of cops when they fuck up. Just as I am about the military and government as a whole. But we draw sides and just beat each other to death over stupid shit.

The biggest issue is that fact that since people bitch, instead of follow the rules (like if a Mod takes action and the member believes it wasn't warranted, bring in Site Staff for review) they just add fuel to the fire and bitch. Seriously, if you feel a Mod did something you don't agree with. Contact the Mod and discuss it or contact Site Staff. They'll review it and if need be smack the Mod and say "No, bad Mod" if it is a legit fuck up on the Mod.

Another issue is that the community shouldn't be and isn't based simply on the most popular members get a pass at shit and for a bit, it kinda happened. And now that the rules are being applied more across the board. Shit is getting warnings for something that originally would have been swept under the rug. But that comes back to people taking shit way to seriously on some stuff.

I can also tell you this.

It honestly is pretty hard to be permanently banned from here and even then, most are allowed to come back. I was banned for stupid shit and allowed to come back after I apologized and agreed to follow the rules, which honestly I try. I don't want to have issues with other members here. Even the ones I don't always agree with. Because guess what.... I do agree with them on other shit.

I firmly believe this is a great place and it still could be in the future. But I think people are taking things way too seriously. (Myself included sometimes, again...  emotional investment in certain topics, stress from daily life, etc. None ofnus are immune from it.)

Look, I ain't perfect. I sure as shit known that. We all have fucked up here. Arfcom is a great community with a great group of folks. We all have our own personal shit to deal with outside of Arfcom. Kids, jobs, debt, family, health, etc....  sometimes, that shit bleeds over here.

The CoC is pretty easy to understand and follow. Additionally, I think we all need to take a deep breath, Members Mods, Staff, etc.... take a deep breath. Arfcom is a hell of a community that has given me some great friends that I've had the pleasure of meeting in person at NRAAM, SHOT, Cola Warrior, the Retro Shoot, and just across daily life.

So let's all chill the fuck out. We all fuck up, we all get heated, we all get emotionally invested in shit, etc....

And yes, I'm a Waste of Site Resources and so is this Thread.

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It's a shake that a desire for people to act like adults is seen as a stick being buried too deep.
I think that too many people don't know how act in a civil manner, and that is reflected in their posting styles

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That is not a community I wish to be part of.

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I have been around the site for a while. I managed to get a perma-ban under my belt (no, we won't go there) - let's just say that it wasn't justified, and it took a while but  it was reversed.
Apart from that, I mostly think the mods have got things right. But they are only human, and sometimes I haven't agreed with some decisions, even when I knew most of the facts. But honestly, that has been rare.

People in general, not just here (and myself included) are much less tolerant than they were. That comes from the general breakdown that we are seeing at all levels in our society.
My own opinion is that it is driven by purposeful intolerance. I have no idea what the ultimate aim is, but I can see where things are going.

The problem isn't the new owners. I don't think I have noticed any real difference, and I don't expect there to be for quite a while. They know enough not to acquire something and destroy it by jumping in with both feet making drastic changes.

The Mods haven't really changed. They are the same fallible humans as always, but they try to be more. Kudos for that.

Membership has changed. There are many more members than there were. Not all come here with good intentions. Not all have any real interest in firearms.

This is not a new phenomenon. I am old enough to have used the Internet before it was the Internet.
I remember the problems when AOL opened it up to the hoards of "idiots" (and a lot of them were). It sorts itself out, but it's never the same place.
As the saying goes: "Resistance is futile". All you can do is go with the flow, and maybe try to direct it a little.

This is an interesting community. There are left-wing loons. There are also right-wing loons, with ideas that would be quite at home with the worst aspects of Islam.
I doubt that anyone will ever control those extremes. All you can hope for is that they are kept in line - and the Mods to (IMHO) a fine job of that most of the time.
Maybe you don't want to bring them into line. Its the extreme variety that you find here that makes this place what it is. But when it extends into abuse, there is no choice.

Just remember the basic rule: You can believe what you want. You can say what you want, but don't let either of those intrude on the rights of others, or their beliefs, and above all, never directly abuse anyone else, no matter how much YOU might think they need it. (They don't).

Keep pushing the envelope, and the rules will grow to contain you.
Soon, you will find all you can really do here will be to post pictures of cats.
Don't want rules? Don't force people into implementing them.

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The multitude of Sylvannified avatars of prolific GD posters show that to be irrelevant.

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It's a shake that a desire for people to act like adults is seen as a stick being buried too deep.
I think that too many people don't know how act in a civil manner, and that is reflected in their posting styles

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Or it's that people have to act in a civilized manner to people all day and really care what some random guy on the internet thinks?

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I don't give a shit about that. I didn't join until after the ban expired when my interest in ARs piqued.  I'm not going back to the old ways now. Me and half the members would peace out.

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I listened to some former NFL players talk about refereeing ruining their game, specifically instant replay.  Sounded exactly like GD.

How is the game better for having reviews of plays?.  It isn't. It's an illusion.   Moderators here should be able to do what they're allowed to do until they quit or are fired.  And Staff can intervene any way that they are allowed to by owners.

Watching MLB you see strikes called ball, balls called strikes...all night long.  Watching the NBA you see traveling, palming the ball and hundreds of judgement calls, charging or blocking?...all night long.

So judgement calls it is.  COC is helpful but can never cover every disruptive or harmful behavior.  I don't see any possibility here that enforcement won't be lax.....or over the top.  There is no winning in GD.

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TBS and the rest of the Site Staff has really wanted to clean up GD and the website as a whole.

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You can have conservative viewpoints on social media. A majority of my friends on social media are pro-2A and constantly posting pictures of their new gun setups, hunting trips, Conservative comments on current political issues, etc..

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You can have conservative viewpoints on social media. A majority of my friends on social media are pro-2A and constantly posting pictures of their new gun setups, hunting trips, Conservative comments on current political issues, etc..

But guess what? They also don't post edgelord 4Chan style shitposting. That's the difference.

If you act like an adult, you'll have no issues on social media. If you act like a 14 year old trolling about throwing people from helicopters or other stupid edgy shit, then yeah, you'll probably get in trouble.

It's really not that hard. Just act like an adult.

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"I am Spartacus"

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Sure sometimes people have a bad day or too much to drink but I really can't say I've seen members really attacking other members in a very personal or extreme way. That has never been tolerated.

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No offense, modding doesn't suit you.  I mean that in a respectful way.

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The juvenile stuff needs to go, for starters.

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For saying stupid shit in the religious subforum when I thought I was in GD.

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You are not using your resources efficiently, reported

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I certainly see it. There are way more insults than are necessary for people who are simply discussing an issue
I don't know if its some peoples default way of communicating with others.
Absolutely they shouldn't be posting while intoxicated; that's never a good idea and can often end up with someone in trouble

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@tc556guy

Here is what you seek.