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Link Posted: 9/28/2019 7:08:11 PM EDT
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they need 20 Repubs in the Senate to join every Dem/Ind to convict...

20 is not a huge number when you figure Never Trumpers,  weak GOPe, open border Chamber of Commerce lackeys,  and those that can be blackmailed or otherwise compromised...

Yea...it is not an insurmountable number...
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Two thirds for impeachment.
they need 20 Repubs in the Senate to join every Dem/Ind to convict...

20 is not a huge number when you figure Never Trumpers,  weak GOPe, open border Chamber of Commerce lackeys,  and those that can be blackmailed or otherwise compromised...

Yea...it is not an insurmountable number...
They're not even likely to get all the democrats in the Senate, they might get one or two Rs to cross over, but not more than that.
Link Posted: 9/28/2019 7:31:40 PM EDT
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They're not even likely to get all the democrats in the Senate, they might get one or two Rs to cross over, but not more than that.
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Two thirds for impeachment.
they need 20 Repubs in the Senate to join every Dem/Ind to convict...

20 is not a huge number when you figure Never Trumpers,  weak GOPe, open border Chamber of Commerce lackeys,  and those that can be blackmailed or otherwise compromised...

Yea...it is not an insurmountable number...
They're not even likely to get all the democrats in the Senate, they might get one or two Rs to cross over, but not more than that.
C'mon Josh.
We will have none of your understanding of reality in this thread.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:07:17 AM EDT
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democrat voters are.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 4:51:38 PM EDT
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You people who believe in this stuff give us too much credit.
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Deep state is fucking deep, cunning and devious.
You people who believe in this stuff give us too much credit.
I’m a federal employee and I absolutely believe there is a counter-Trump operation going on.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 4:56:08 PM EDT
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Dan Bongino (14:30)

Link Posted: 9/30/2019 1:41:27 AM EDT
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Whistleblower form secretly changes, CIA may have known
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 2:00:12 AM EDT
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Poor N_T's, their story is blowng up faster that it can be told...there's not going to be any story left before long except for FAIL.......FAIL...........FAIL...sucks to be N_T......
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 8:14:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2019 8:38:00 AM EDT
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Trump needs to stay of twitter, keep Rudy off TV, and let them Dems hang themselves.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 8:58:46 AM EDT
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Shit, I’m a farmer in ILL & I can see it!
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 9:13:00 AM EDT
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The speaker of the house was aware of the content of an executive discussion how?
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 9:18:37 AM EDT
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The CIA knew that's how.

1.  change WB rules so you can have an anonymous agent make a claim to something he/she was not a first person to.
2.  find 'something' Eastern Block conversation to make claim about
3.  make false claim
4.  leak to Dem house and to media
5.  make stink.
6.  TOTALLY UNDERESTIMATE THAT TRUMP RELEASES DOC
7.  Hold hearing were you make up a story in opening arguments and then claim it's a parody
8.  Perma pickled speaker of the House fucks up and admits it on TV (quickly corrects herself)
9.  Repeat over and over again until it dies over and over again.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 9:21:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2019 9:27:35 AM EDT
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The CIA knew that's how.

1.  change WB rules so you can have an anonymous agent make a claim to something he/she was not a first person to.
2.  find 'something' Eastern Block conversation to make claim about
3.  make false claim
4.  leak to Dem house and to media
5.  make stink.
6.  TOTALLY UNDERESTIMATE THAT TRUMP RELEASES DOC
7.  Hold hearing were you make up a story in opening arguments and then claim it's a parody
8.  Perma pickled speaker of the House fucks up and admits it on TV (quickly corrects herself)
9.  Repeat over and over again until it dies over and over again.
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Link Posted: 9/30/2019 9:46:50 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2019 9:55:23 AM EDT
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The CIA knew that's how.

1.  change WB rules so you can have an anonymous agent make a claim to something he/she was not a first person to.
2.  find 'something' Eastern Block conversation to make claim about
3.  make false claim
4.  leak to Dem house and to media
5.  make stink.
6.  TOTALLY UNDERESTIMATE THAT TRUMP RELEASES DOC
7.  Hold hearing were you make up a story in opening arguments and then claim it's a parody
8.  Perma pickled speaker of the House fucks up and admits it on TV (quickly corrects herself)
9.  Repeat over and over again until it dies over and over again.
This is just amazing.  In an effort to "Orange man bad" they are just shooting themselves in their foot.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 9:59:20 AM EDT
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I'll give you #1 and #3, but a cunning actor would have made this look like it was policy longer than 2 seconds before a hearsay complaint was submitted.
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Deep state is fucking deep, cunning and devious.
I'll give you #1 and #3, but a cunning actor would have made this look like it was policy longer than 2 seconds before a hearsay complaint was submitted.
It was written by several lawyers.

I mean, who writes a whistleblower report like some amicus brief?
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 10:00:49 AM EDT
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Also, Schiff sent a staffer to Ukraine to help get this going and get some support from their team there.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 10:08:24 AM EDT
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Indeed he did.  I'd still like to know exactly what went on with Shifty Schiff and the happenings at the Standard Hotel.

And let's not forget his pal Ed Buck...

Link Posted: 9/30/2019 10:08:48 AM EDT
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So sick of this fucking deep state bullshit.

They are traitors and should be dealt with as such.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 10:10:19 AM EDT
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alteady cashing in
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 10:13:51 AM EDT
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The retard can give the nuclear launch codes to the Russians, and people here will still defend him.
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SYGL, DU is THAT WAY -->>>
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 11:31:12 AM EDT
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The speaker of the house was aware of the content of an executive discussion how?
She claimed that Trump called her to explain the context of the call.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 11:37:17 AM EDT
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Video at date link.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 11:41:16 AM EDT
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Video at date link.
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Because they’re still spying on our president and leaking to house democrats and media.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 11:42:58 AM EDT
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Because they’re still spying on our president and leaking to house democrats and media.
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And that is the correct answer, the IC never stopped...

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Link Posted: 9/30/2019 1:07:39 PM EDT
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I’m a federal employee and I absolutely believe there is a counter-Trump operation going on.
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Deep state is fucking deep, cunning and devious.
You people who believe in this stuff give us too much credit.
I’m a federal employee and I absolutely believe there is a counter-Trump operation going on.
You picked up on that all the way from the post office, eh?

I keed, I keed.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 1:54:38 PM EDT
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You picked up on that all the way from the post office, eh?

I keed, I keed.
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Deep state is fucking deep, cunning and devious.
You people who believe in this stuff give us too much credit.
I’m a federal employee and I absolutely believe there is a counter-Trump operation going on.
You picked up on that all the way from the post office, eh?

I keed, I keed.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 3:40:41 PM EDT
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This is just amazing.  In an effort to "Orange man bad" they are just shooting themselves in their foot.
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They’ve chosen kamikaze retaliation...
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 4:57:31 PM EDT
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Their aim appears to be drifting slowly to parts higher on the body.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 5:08:09 PM EDT
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democrat voters are.
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It really is like they think we are ignorant savages who won't pick up on their genius.
democrat voters are.
LOL
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 5:21:08 PM EDT
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And that is the correct answer, the IC never stopped...

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Holy Shit. That is amazing
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 6:14:06 PM EDT
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Holy Shit. That is amazing
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Laws are for thee, not for me...
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 7:28:58 PM EDT
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Deep state is fucking deep, cunning and devious.
You people who believe in this stuff give us too much credit.
I’m a federal employee and I absolutely believe there is a counter-Trump operation going on.
You picked up on that all the way from the post office, eh?

I keed, I keed.
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Totally in jest, honestly.

I couldn't pass it up, it was just hanging right in the strike zone...
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 8:39:48 PM EDT
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Indeed he did.  I'd still like to know exactly what went on with Shifty Schiff and the happenings at the Standard Hotel.

And let's not forget his pal Ed Buck...

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Also, Schiff sent a staffer to Ukraine to help get this going and get some support from their team there.
Indeed he did.  I'd still like to know exactly what went on with Shifty Schiff and the happenings at the Standard Hotel.

And let's not forget his pal Ed Buck...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFt61zjWoAAOebI.jpg:large
My name is Ed Buck and I like to fuck...

...od'd (ruffied) minorities in the butt with my pal Adam Schiff.

I heard this from a person that had knowledge from a source that knows some people with reliable information.  Shit needs to be investigated!  Literally, investigate the shit.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 8:46:26 PM EDT
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SYGL, DU is THAT WAY -->>>
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The retard can give the nuclear launch codes to the Russians, and people here will still defend him.
SYGL, DU is THAT WAY -->>>
Under_Score
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 8:47:00 PM EDT
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Guy from the federalist was on Lou Dobs tonight.  Hr claimed the IC put out a statement today acknowledging the change of the form. Also said the whistleblower used the prior version of the form and claimed to have first hand knowledge of the event.

I think our new acting DNI was ambushed with this intentionally.

Link to IG statement.   Look for 30 sep statement

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/who-we-are/organizations/icig/icig-news/icig-news

Video in tweet

Link Posted: 9/30/2019 10:30:34 PM EDT
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Guy from the federalist was on Lou Dobs tonight.  Hr claimed the IC put out a statement today acknowledging the change of the form. Also said the whistleblower used the prior version of the form and claimed to have first hand knowledge of the event.

I think our new acting DNI was ambushed with this intentionally.

Link to IG statement.   Look for 30 sep statement

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/who-we-are/organizations/icig/icig-news/icig-news

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Well duh...
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 10:54:52 PM EDT
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Is O_P in hiding?
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 10:57:44 PM EDT
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Against their own ships.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 10:58:44 PM EDT
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 If by hiding you mean banned, yes.
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 11:40:44 PM EDT
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No, he is continuing his nevertrump bullshit in this thread.

Disregard... wrong troll.

ETA then again, they may be one in the same.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 9:09:35 AM EDT
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I notice the absence of less than a handful of people makes for a LOT less animosity in a political thread..
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 9:13:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/1/2019 9:18:24 AM EDT
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See the battle that's really being fought, here.
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Excellent post!
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 9:19:09 AM EDT
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Folks, the people running this are not idiots.

They are interested primarily in preserving their power. As we have seen, the "intelligence community" and various parts of the federal law enforcement bureaucracy are involved in breathtaking malfeasance and abuse of power. And they are involved to great personal benefit. Remember how many DOJ personnel were accepting nice gifts from media figures? Ever noticed how many high level personnel from the DOJ and the "intelligence community" go on to extremely well-paying retirement careers after they've served a ridiculously low number of years in federal employ with a nice cushy retirement and benefits?

Remember Jamie Gorelick, one of the people most directly responsible for making 9/11 possible going on to work for Fannie May where she made more than 20 million dollars promoting housing policies that led directly to the economic crisis in 2008?

That's what is at stake here. And it's way more important than any single election...because the bottom line is that this group of people has a stranglehold on power. Just look at how they've deployed it against Trump. That structure is what is at stake here and with it intact they can do as they please...even against a president who is inclined to clean that shit up.

Remember how they neutered Sessions immediately and essentially ran the DOJ as a complete resistance campaign? It's only now starting to be addressed and it is anyone's guess how effective Barr can be in correcting that. Which is why the same cabal of people has been busily attacking Barr.

The power at stake here is not about the election. It's about the underbelly of Washington DC that makes elections irrelevant. This shit has been developing for decades and it is on the cusp of achieving absolute power in the country. Half the Republican party is effectively tamed or in on it. All the democrats are in on it. Anyone who steps out of line gets shoddy, politically motivated FBI investigations and prosecutions over nothing.

Remember Ted Stevens? Remember how the DOJ made up a bunch of bullshit and got rid of him with fake criminal charges that a federal judge later threw out and censured the prosecutors over? Remember how the people who did that were not fired or disciplined by DOJ in any way?

Congress is not the locus of their power. They kept Donald Trump on a leash  for two years while in the minority in Congress simply through maneuvering and manipulation of "intelligence community" and DOJ powers.

If Donald Trump succeeds at bringing sunlight to this and at actually fighting it, their base of power is gone, the flow of money stops, and some of them might even end up in prison.

That is what this is all about.

The short term electoral fate of the democratic party is irrelevant. The democratic party is merely a useful entity for helping promote and protect this system. Just look at Hillary's campaign. What in her campaign was in any way, shape, or form good for the long term of the Democratic Party? Absolutely nothing. Her campaign was entirely a campaign to promote and protect these cancers on the body politic. They are who she campaigned to and signaled her shared allegiance with. They didn't campaign to blue collar workers in swing states because those people are nothing more than useful dupes they need to fool every couple of years to help advance their power base further.

This is about stopping Trump's ability to damage this power structure that has been carefully constructed over decades.

They are well funded and far better organized than anyone who would like to see their system destroyed. They have agents everywhere and the sort of relentless appetite for power you see parodied in movies.

Impeachment is about stopping Trump and those he has recruited from being able to damage that. Nothing more. If the Democrats lose in 2020 but Trump is unable to make any headway in attacking that structure, it is a win for them. Because there will be other presidents and they will either play ball or get the Trump treatment. Only worse.

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Very good post....well said.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 9:32:10 AM EDT
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Folks, the people running this are not idiots.

They are interested primarily in preserving their power. As we have seen, the "intelligence community" and various parts of the federal law enforcement bureaucracy are involved in breathtaking malfeasance and abuse of power. And they are involved to great personal benefit. Remember how many DOJ personnel were accepting nice gifts from media figures? Ever noticed how many high level personnel from the DOJ and the "intelligence community" go on to extremely well-paying retirement careers after they've served a ridiculously low number of years in federal employ with a nice cushy retirement and benefits?

Remember Jamie Gorelick, one of the people most directly responsible for making 9/11 possible going on to work for Fannie May where she made more than 20 million dollars promoting housing policies that led directly to the economic crisis in 2008?

That's what is at stake here. And it's way more important than any single election...because the bottom line is that this group of people has a stranglehold on power. Just look at how they've deployed it against Trump. That structure is what is at stake here and with it intact they can do as they please...even against a president who is inclined to clean that shit up.

Remember how they neutered Sessions immediately and essentially ran the DOJ as a complete resistance campaign? It's only now starting to be addressed and it is anyone's guess how effective Barr can be in correcting that. Which is why the same cabal of people has been busily attacking Barr.

The power at stake here is not about the election. It's about the underbelly of Washington DC that makes elections irrelevant. This shit has been developing for decades and it is on the cusp of achieving absolute power in the country. Half the Republican party is effectively tamed or in on it. All the democrats are in on it. Anyone who steps out of line gets shoddy, politically motivated FBI investigations and prosecutions over nothing.

Remember Ted Stevens? Remember how the DOJ made up a bunch of bullshit and got rid of him with fake criminal charges that a federal judge later threw out and censured the prosecutors over? Remember how the people who did that were not fired or disciplined by DOJ in any way?

Congress is not the locus of their power. They kept Donald Trump on a leash  for two years while in the minority in Congress simply through maneuvering and manipulation of "intelligence community" and DOJ powers.

If Donald Trump succeeds at bringing sunlight to this and at actually fighting it, their base of power is gone, the flow of money stops, and some of them might even end up in prison.

That is what this is all about.

The short term electoral fate of the democratic party is irrelevant. The democratic party is merely a useful entity for helping promote and protect this system. Just look at Hillary's campaign. What in her campaign was in any way, shape, or form good for the long term of the Democratic Party? Absolutely nothing. Her campaign was entirely a campaign to promote and protect these cancers on the body politic. They are who she campaigned to and signaled her shared allegiance with. They didn't campaign to blue collar workers in swing states because those people are nothing more than useful dupes they need to fool every couple of years to help advance their power base further.

This is about stopping Trump's ability to damage this power structure that has been carefully constructed over decades.

They are well funded and far better organized than anyone who would like to see their system destroyed. They have agents everywhere and the sort of relentless appetite for power you see parodied in movies.

Impeachment is about stopping Trump and those he has recruited from being able to damage that. Nothing more. If the Democrats lose in 2020 but Trump is unable to make any headway in attacking that structure, it is a win for them. Because there will be other presidents and they will either play ball or get the Trump treatment. Only worse.

See the battle that's really being fought, here.
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As usual...…..TOTALLY spot on!!
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 9:38:27 AM EDT
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It really is like they think we are ignorant savages who won't pick up on their genius.
democrat voters are.
LOL
I'm not joking. What are the classic follies of ignorant savages? They trade things worth more than gold for trifles (birth rights of free men for foodstamps and section 8) . They believe the rain god needs innocent blood (abortion, climate change). They prefer to take by force rather than equitable compromises (Bernie Sanders, Marxists, communists). they create retarded social systems then sacrifice themselves meaninglessly rather than abandon the retarded social systems (fractional reserve banking, trillion dollar college debts, feminism,)   etc etc

democrats are literally ignorant savages and they vote for more ignorant savages.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 11:37:28 AM EDT
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More money laundering...

Link Posted: 10/1/2019 11:40:20 AM EDT
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More money laundering...

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"Tax deductible"???

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