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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:32:24 PM EDT
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Probably garbage.
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:35:04 PM EDT
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Funny thing is as far as I read they are mostly the result of recycling.
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:36:25 PM EDT
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Mostly fishing takle and lost ocean shipments.
Still, plastic trees were getting silly. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:36:33 PM EDT
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They're all full of shit, most of the man made debris in the oceans is from the fishing industry, the rest of the "shit" is from third world countries. Fuck'em, they lie!!!!
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:36:47 PM EDT
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Funny thing is as far as I read they are mostly the result of recycling. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:37:48 PM EDT
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Some kid knocked on my door recently asking me to sign a petition to ban styrofoam.
"No. Don't like it, don't buy it. Banning that will accomplish absolutely nothing positive." His reaction showed me my opinion wasn't popular and I'll be voting on this soon. 
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:38:27 PM EDT
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Asia's fault... mostly
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:38:58 PM EDT
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Better still tell them to fuck off after telling them this
Just 10 rivers are carrying 90% of the plastic entering the oceans, a study has found. Two of them are in Africa - the Nile and the Niger - while the others are in Asia: the Indus, Ganges, Amur, Mekong, Pearl, Hai he, Yellow and Yangtze. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:40:22 PM EDT
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Yes, there are large patches where boats go through fields of debris.
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:41:25 PM EDT
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I don't know what those garbage islands are made of, but I bet the dorado and yellowtail fishing off of them is phenomenal. If anyone has the coordinates?
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:41:47 PM EDT
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Here's a good article from Nature:
Link A couple points: Over three-quarters of the GPGP mass was carried by debris larger than 5?cm and at least 46% was comprised of fishing nets. Microplastics accounted for 8% of the total mass but 94% of the estimated 1.8 (1.1–3.6) trillion pieces floating in the area. Most available data on quantities and characteristics of buoyant ocean plastic are derived from samples collected with small sea surface trawls initially developed to collect neustonic plankton. Due to their small aperture (0.5–1?m width, 0.15–1?m depth) and limited surface area covered, they could underestimate loads of rarer and larger plastic objects such as bottles, buoys and fishing nets. In an attempt to overcome this misrepresentation, a research team combined net tow data with information from vessel-based visual sighting surveys. They found that while small, millimetre-sized pieces (<4.75?mm) count in trillions at global scale, they only represent a small mass portion (13%) of the total available buoyant material. Nevertheless, vessel-based sightings data yielded high uncertainties due to differences in survey protocols across research groups and difficulties in estimating the mass of sighted objects. 
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:43:28 PM EDT
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I know what they are: A convenient method for extracting vast amounts of guilt-money from either: a:) gullible overly-sensitive idiots who are afraid to stand up to eco-extortion, b:) sheep who are overly-anxious to throw away
What do I win? 
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:43:41 PM EDT
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Went fishing in the ocean this weekend.
Pulled a gallon jug out, used to hold hydraulic fluid. Lots of trash out there, pick it up if you see it. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:45:00 PM EDT
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This pisses me off.
I am a firm believer that man was put on this earth to make plastics. Lots of it. I believe that a future, super species will develop, and depend on, all the discarded plastics mankind has produced. Denying the earth plastic is retarding evolution. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:46:22 PM EDT
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But what will the turtles choke on if there are no plastic bags?
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:47:36 PM EDT
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Sounds like it's still garbage, in patches.
Just because it's not visible from the surface, it doesn't matter/exist? I'd rather it not be there at all, all things being equal. We need it to be healthy. Having said that, our ecotards haven't brought up one good idea because 90% of this shit is probably fishing gear or dumped from Asian countries. Banning the stuff we use the most isn't gonna fix things how they want. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:48:41 PM EDT
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Do-gooders everywhere think they're helping by making a country that produces, on a global scale, next to zero plastic ocean waste eliminate straws, plastic bags, and a bunch of other things that make our lives convenient. The reason is often cited as the "garbage patches" in the oceans. Do you know why there are next to no pictures of these patches? They are defined as having high concentrations of plastics, the vast majority of which are already broken down and suspended below the surface. You might think of floating masses of milk jugs, but that's far from the truth. The vast majority of these patches aren't even visible or even detectable without water sampling. The next time you hear a liberal spout off about this ask if they know what they actually are. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:49:12 PM EDT
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OP have you searched for “ocean garbage patch”? there are photos.
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:50:00 PM EDT
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Funny thing is as far as I read they are mostly the result of recycling. America has almost zero contribution to these trash islands |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 3:59:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:00:45 PM EDT
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The size of Rhode Island. When trying to shock people into thinking something is catastrophic, it's always the size of Rhode Island.
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:05:19 PM EDT
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The garbage patches are consist mostly of plastic particulate that float at or near the ocean surface.
The problem is animals all the way from plankton up the food web consume the plastic micro-particles and get sick and die with their bellies full of plastic instead of actual food. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:09:17 PM EDT
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The size of Rhode Island. When trying to shock people into thinking something is catastrophic, it's always the size of Rhode Island. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:12:38 PM EDT
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Great Pacific Garbage Patch (300 miles long)
I mean, the oceans are filthy. I've seen swaths of sewage and debris in the middle of nowhere. We've been shit stewards of the Earth even if there are no massive islands of plastic populated by naked bag ladies in plastic tree hula skirts with breasts that point down we should work to clean up our act. In this case, literally, for the chilluns. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:17:18 PM EDT
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Great Pacific Garbage Patch (300 miles long) https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fscottsnowden%2Ffiles%2F2019%2F05%2FGreatPacificGarbagePatch.jpg I mean, the oceans are filthy. I've seen swaths of sewage and debris in the middle of nowhere. We've been shit stewards of the Earth even if there are no massive islands of plastic populated by naked bag ladies in plastic tree hula skirts with breasts that point down we should work to clean up our act. In this case, literally, for the chilluns. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:17:53 PM EDT
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Great Pacific Garbage Patch (300 miles long) https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fscottsnowden%2Ffiles%2F2019%2F05%2FGreatPacificGarbagePatch.jpg I mean, the oceans are filthy. I've seen swaths of sewage and debris in the middle of nowhere. We've been shit stewards of the Earth even if there are no massive islands of plastic populated by naked bag ladies in plastic tree hula skirts with breasts that point down we should work to clean up our act. In this case, literally, for the chilluns. Once those countries carry the bulk of the load, then we can focus in the tiny single digit trash producing countries. Deal? |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:22:06 PM EDT
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OP have you searched for “ocean garbage patch”? there are photos. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:23:06 PM EDT
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Everything came from the earth, we've just arranged the elements into different forms. I can't say I'm worried about this or much else
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:24:52 PM EDT
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This pisses me off. I am a firm believer that man was put on this earth to make plastics. Lots of it. I believe that a future, super species will develop, and depend on, all the discarded plastics mankind has produced. Denying the earth plastic is retarding evolution.  George Carlin: The Universe Wanted Plastic |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:33:40 PM EDT
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So just one healthy nuke ought to fix it then Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The size of Rhode Island. When trying to shock people into thinking something is catastrophic, it's always the size of Rhode Island. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:35:47 PM EDT
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Funny how the pictures are never satellite pictures and always exaggerated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP have you searched for "ocean garbage patch"? there are photos. not a tree hugger by any means. I just don't like seeing this type of shit all over the place from someones snack or drink, that took them 10 seconds to consume and now we'll see it for years after..... |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:36:12 PM EDT
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Funny how the pictures are never satellite pictures and always exaggerated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP have you searched for “ocean garbage patch”? there are photos. I am no hippie; but we do need to be good stewards of the planet. This is all humans, not just us in the US. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:36:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:45:32 PM EDT
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This pisses me off. I am a firm believer that man was put on this earth to make plastics. Lots of it. I believe that a future, super species will develop, and depend on, all the discarded plastics mankind has produced. Denying the earth plastic is retarding evolution. 
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:52:16 PM EDT
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Out of Texas, there is tons of trash in the water. A significant portion of it is plastics. Go to any decent rip, and its easy to see the plastics, garbage, and trash assembled by the currents.
You can see the same thing on many of the relatively "wild" Texas beaches. You can even see the same thing in the bayou just outside my office. Tons of trash washed off the streets and heading downstream to the bay. They are pulling 700 to 900 bags of trash each week just out of that sad little bayou. Round numbers, 60 cubic feet of trash per week. Irrespective of what they might do in India or Africa, we need to be better stewards of our own waters. I'd suggest we should work on the things we can control as the first priority. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 4:59:37 PM EDT
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I've seen garbage patches you people wouldn't believe. Trash on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched Coors bottles glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:00:53 PM EDT
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Bras thrown away by Feminists in the 1970's?
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:07:29 PM EDT
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I thought this was pretty cool.
Doesn't really have anything to do with the thread other than crap in the ocean, but hey.  Sailing through Pumice near VaVa’u |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:10:08 PM EDT
[#39]
I don't like China and India dumping piles of plastic in the ocean.
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:19:22 PM EDT
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I know a lot of it is from California. We have so many dumps at least in the Bay Area that are essentially next to the bay. Wind drags it out and it saves Pelosi money to launder somewhere else.
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:23:23 PM EDT
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But what will the turtles choke on if there are no plastic bags? |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:27:01 PM EDT
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Went fishing in the ocean this weekend. Pulled a gallon jug out, used to hold hydraulic fluid. Lots of trash out there, pick it up if you see it. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:30:51 PM EDT
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 How I learned to stop worrying and love the garbage patch: Miriam Goldstein at TEDxOslo 2013 |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:31:14 PM EDT
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We covered this in my environmental science class last year. There is no giant raft of trash. There is trash, but most of it is from commercial fishing. There is a piece here and there. The bigger problem is the increasing level of microplastics in the water. Micro beads are used in soaps and cosmetics as mild abrasives. It is bad when they enter the food chain.
According to reliable sources, the 9 or 10 worse sources for plastics are rivers in Asia and Africa. If the US were to release zero plastic waste in the oceans, it would reduce the total amount by less than 2%. Not bad for the world's largest economy. The USA is not the bad guy. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:32:32 PM EDT
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Think of all the stuff that used to be made out of wood that is now plastic. Plastics have saved more trees than any material. Most of that stuff floating around is coming from 3rd world countries so lets ban plastics in the western countries.
Its sort of like Co2 emissions and curtailing their output in Western countries while allowing them in the worst polluters like China and India to continue. Those who say they want to fix these problems really don't, they want power and taxes, nothing more. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:35:38 PM EDT
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I want a ocean garbage (morale) patch...
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:36:19 PM EDT
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I think we really need to go back to glass bottles.
And burn all plastic trash. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:36:22 PM EDT
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Just ask for a photograph of the “floating mass of garbage”.
It’s usually a photo from Manila bay or Indonesia somewhere. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:36:31 PM EDT
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This pisses me off. I am a firm believer that man was put on this earth to make plastics. Lots of it. I believe that a future, super species will develop, and depend on, all the discarded plastics mankind has produced. Denying the earth plastic is retarding evolution. Quote HistoryQuoted:
This pisses me off. I am a firm believer that man was put on this earth to make plastics. Lots of it. I believe that a future, super species will develop, and depend on, all the discarded plastics mankind has produced. Denying the earth plastic is retarding evolution. I'm in. Quoted:
Think of all the stuff that used to be made out of wood that is now plastic. Plastics have saved more trees than any material. Most of that stuff floating around is coming from 3rd world countries so lets ban plastics in the western countries.
Its sort of like Co2 emissions and curtailing their output in Western countries while allowing them in the worst polluters like China and India to continue. Those who say they want to fix these problems really don't, they want power and taxes, nothing more. |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 5:39:37 PM EDT
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Sadly, it's this type of attitude that makes countries like India, look like, well......India. not a tree hugger by any means. I just don't like seeing this type of shit all over the place from someones snack or drink, that took them 10 seconds to consume and now we'll see it for years after..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP have you searched for "ocean garbage patch"? there are photos. not a tree hugger by any means. I just don't like seeing this type of shit all over the place from someones snack or drink, that took them 10 seconds to consume and now we'll see it for years after..... |
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