Posted: 1/13/2004 7:14:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: Damn I hope you guys get it. We have a racist black asshat from Omaha that will do anything to us from getting it. Seems that it's his District that causes all the crime... He's a black barber. Lots of credentials... Gov Doyle is a career politician, completely out of touch with the rest of the state... To get this, we're gonna have to ram it down his throat (veto override)... To give you an idea, this guy vetoed a property tax freeze supported by at least 75% of the population... And got on TV feeling real good about himself, then leaned hard on the Dems to join ranks and oppose a veto override... All the sudden, the veto override fails by one vote... He used to be attorney general, so you can draw your own assumptions about non-political leaning material if you wish... This is the 'scary' thing here, this Gov has a near magical ability to produce (D) votes for his side on overrides... (P.S. CCW in WI has a modicum of bi-partisan support. It's mostly a GOP bill, but in a state like this even Democrats can be pro-gun)... |
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To give you an idea, this guy vetoed a property tax freeze supported by at least 75% of the population... And got on TV feeling real good about himself, then leaned hard on the Dems to join ranks and oppose a veto override... All the sudden, the veto override fails by one vote... that's what I'm afraid is going to happen. They just need one guy or so to "take one for the team" and the veto will stand. |
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Quoted: thanks RB, I'm on it. Why target only Kenosha, Sheboygan, Wausau and Stevens Point? Because those are the areas represented by the shaky Democrat votes... The cities of Milwaukee & Madison are the Governor's power-base, most of the rest of the state is a lock... Politics here are so acrimonious that the Republicans have no reason to try and please the governor, so ALL of the GOP State Senators are onboard, and all but two of those in the Assembly... We also have a number of Democrats who at least in the initial vote feared their constituents more than the Governor, and voted for the bill. After all, [b]everyone who campaigned for gun control LOST in the last election (Doyle did not raise guns as a campaign issue, but we knew where he stood.)[/b] The big deal here is that this issue WILL come down to no more than TWO votes. Basically, to whichever side (voters vs the Gov) does the better job putting the 'fear of God' into the swing reps... |
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Dear fellow gunowner: Next week Wednesday, January 21st, the state Senate will vote on the override of Governor Doyle's veto of the Personal Protection Act concealed carry bill. We have the votes to override Doyle's veto. An override requires 22 votes, and we got 24 votes for the bill during the first go-round in the senate. The trick is to keep at least four of the six Democrats who voted for the bill on our side. The way to do this--the only way--is to apply pressure by calling your legislators and by showing up at the capitol for the vote. We need a massive show of force. We need to have hundreds of supporters going to their legislators' offices and sitting in the senate gallery. The NRA believes that a massive show of force will give us the win we need. For many of you, going to the capitol that day would mean using one of your vacation or personal days to get off of work. Is it worth using a day of vacation or personal time to be part of this show of force? The answer to that question depends upon how much you value your freedom. Last week, Ohio became the 46th state to pass a concealed carry law. That leaves Wisconsin as one of just four states that prohibit their citizens from having the means to defend themselves. If that doesn't make your blood boil, what does? This isn't just about carrying a gun when you're out in public. It's about being able to carry a handgun in your jacket when you're out bowhunting in bear country. It's about being able to have a weapon with you when you're out trapping. Nor is this just about guns. Probably half of the people receiving this email carry knives in their pockets. That's illegal under current law. And this isn't just about you. It's about your wives, your daughters, your sisters, your nieces and other women in your life who need the ability to protect themselves. It's about your friends and relatives who have a need to be able to defend themselves but are denied the means to do so under current law. This is about changing a 130 year-old ban on concealed weapons that is so confusing that it makes criminals out of otherwise law-abiding citizens. The vote next Wednesday will make history. Whether history will show the vote as a win or a loss depends very much on your presence at the capitol. Please make every effort possible to be at the capitol by about 10am. Get your friends to go with you. Set up a carpooling effort. Make no mistake, we can win. But not without you. [red]Below are the phone numbers of legislators who need to hear from you and your friends. Call them, and get your friends to call. [/red] We've come too far to lose. Thanks, The Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association [red] SENATOR ROGER BRESKE, from Vilas, Oneida, Lincoln, Langlade, Menominee, Florence, Marinette, Forest counties (800)-334-8773 SENATOR ROBERT WIRCH, from Kenosha county (888)-769-4724 SENATOR JULIE LASSA, from Wood, Portage, Adams counties (608)-266-3123 SENATOR RUSS DECKER, from Price, Rusk, Taylor, Marathon counties (608)-266-2502 SENATOR MARK MEYER, from La Crosse, Trempeleau, Vernon, Crawford, Jackson counties (608)-266-5490 SENATOR JEFF PLALE, from southern Milwaukee county (608)-266-7505 Represenatative Wayne Wood, Janesville (888)_947-0044 Representative Terry Van Akkeren, Sheboygan (608)_266-0656 Representative John Steinbrink, Pleasant Prairie (608)_266-0455 Representative Amy Sue Vruwink, Plover (888) 534-0070 Representative Marlin Schneider, Wisconsin Rapids (888) 529-0072 Representative Gary Sherman, Port Wing (888) 534-0074 Representative Barbara Gronemus, Whitehall (888) 534-0091 And the two Republicans who voted against the bill, but who have indicated they'd vote to override, are: Representative John Townsend, Fond du Lac (888) 529-0052 Representative Luther Olsen, Berlin (608)_266-8077 Remember, we need to keep these people friendly to us, so be polite when you call, and thank them in advance for voting to override.[/red] |
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Dear fellow gunowner: Senator Russ Decker (Price, Rusk, Taylor, Marathon counties) thinks he's found a way to flip-flop on his vote. We have it on good authority that Senator Decker is preparing to tell gunowners that he opposes the concealed carry bill because it will create a statewide list of gunowners. Horsehockey! Under the Wisconsin bill, just as is the case in the other 46 concealed carry states, only those who get permits will be on a list. In other words, those people who apply for permits are choosing to be put on a list of permit holders. Unlike some other states such as Ohio, Wisconsin's bill will not allow those names to be made public. Further, under the Wisconsin bill, there are no questions about whether or not an applicant owns a gun. There may be some people applying for permits who are doing so just to legally carry a knife or a billy club. This is a cynical ploy by Senator Decker to try to pretend to be for the rights of gunowners while simultaneously siding with anti-gun Governor Doyle. He is trying to deny Wisconsin citizens the right to CHOOSE whether or not to have the means to defend themselves. Please call Senator Decker's office at 608-266-2502 and tell his staff that you can see right through this scheme, and that you will not tolerate him flip-flopping on the issue. Thank you, The Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association would it do any good for out of state folks to call that number and give him some shit? |
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Quoted: would it do any good for out of state folks to call that number and give him some shit? It would do some good if the callers were from neighboring states (I'll let someone else post a US map [;)]) pledging to drive to his district to work gunshows, donate money, write letters etc. for any true pro-gun candidate running against him. Unless, of course, he supports us in getting the PPA passed. The legiscritters need to know that part of our legislative strength comes from drawing other RKBA supporters from other district. Strength in numbers. PS On a side note, I wonder about the wisdom of putting this right before the State of the State address. After all, Gov. Doyle is writing that speech and won't want his demmy tools to embarrass him on his big night. |