[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Wal-Mart (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/13/2004 6:32:47 PM EDT
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Did you all hear of the violations that wal-mart has been accused of. It was on Channel 7 world news t-night. I mean labor violations, Immigration Violations and Human Rights of their workers. Not small Stuff....Now here lies the problem this is being done to school kids Grand Mothers and Grand Fathers and maybe even a friend in your family like in mine. They have at one time refused to rehire vets when they went to war. They refused to fly the American Flag. What is the deal here? Now I have that e-mail about them with send it along to a friend, but today I stopped ,watched and say how they treat their workers. This Company thinks the BOTTOM LINE is the only thing that counts. Why you ask am I on a box speaking about this, Because until today I didn't really think it was bad and that I get a good deal on ammo[[[[[[SO WHAT..... Well my fellow AR family it is a big stop and learn that this needs to be stopped...If they get away with it and we do not stop shopping there it will get worse at other stores. And someday maybe your Teenager will want a part time job there. WE at AR15 should STOP buying anything and everything from Wally Mart. Our members who I am sure do buy from them should think about it. I do not give a crap how cheap their ammo gets or they are the only place that has that do-hickey to finish my project. I am boycotting them...Now let me tell you why a little more. I walked into a store and asked about something. Then my friend asked about the same thing. Due to his color he was denied even a glance at....What’s this SHIT....I told him lets make a complaint he said no and doesn't want to even per sew it. He says tolerance is the tool to use against these people....Well I say F-that. The tool is BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT Ok I am of the rage, but when a company thinks they are above the law of human dignity they need to be taught a lesson, I hope this makes some sense to you Wally World Lovers........ |
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A city in CA, Lakewood is trying to keep Wal-Mart out. Wal-Mart qualified an initiative on the Mar. ballot that essentially by-passes the city council and planning council by putting a 75 page proposal before the voters, (with all the EIR stuff and plans, etc) and asking the voters of Lakewood to say yay or nay. Pretty ballsy but I do think they will get in one way or another. My mom likes to buy aspirin at Wal-Mart, cause it's cheap. I like to tell her, when you buy the aspirin you're paying their wages, but when you pay your taxes you're paying the subsidized health insurance they receive through Medical or other state and federal programs. While I agree workers can quit if they don't like the wages or conditions, Wal-Mart employees to a great extent are receiving welfare on the health care end of things, so ........enjoy the cheap ammo.!!!! |
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Quoted: i'll boycott everything but their 9mm value packs! I think its much better revenge to just buy the shit that they dont make any money on. Those Valupaks are a loss leader,they hope you will spot a fishing rod or some binoc's that you just gotta have while youre in there buying 9 |
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I work at a Wal-Mart distribution center... every monday we have a general meeting with the whole wearhouse. Every meeting, they give money to local people. Police, Firemen, Schools. The town the wearhouse is in had an elementary school that couldn't afford computers... Wal-Mart gave them 20 brand new ones when they moved in. This week it was $1000 to help the local police department get new radios for all its officers that were still using the old system. Last week it was $1000 worth of $15 Wal-Mart gift cards for the Highway Patrol to give to people they pulled over for wearing their seatbelts and having their kids buckled in. The employees also donated enough to give Chirstmas to two familys in need this year. Bitch all you want, but Wal-Mart still sells guns and ammo, fishing gear, and a lot of other things I buy, while most other stores are reducing the slection or getting rid of the same goods. And Wal-Mart beats their prices, every time. Everyone likes to beat their chest about sending work offshore or buying USA made things (and Wal-Mart sells a lot of USA made products)... while counting the bills in their wallet and wanting more for less. I'm tired of all bitching thats been done about Wal-Mart. If you dont like them, just dont shop there. |
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[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/13/business/13WALM.html?ex=1074574800&en=5030f110b04e18f4&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE[/url] In-House Audit Says Wal-Mart Violated Labor Laws By STEVEN GREENHOUSE Published: January 13, 2004 An internal audit now under court seal warned top executives at Wal-Mart Stores three years ago that employee records at 128 stores pointed to extensive violations of child-labor laws and state regulations requiring time for breaks and meals. The audit of one week's time-clock records for roughly 25,000 employees found 1,371 instances in which minors apparently worked too late at night, worked during school hours or worked too many hours in a day. It also found 60,767 apparent instances of workers not taking breaks, and 15,705 apparent instances of employees working through meal times. Officials at Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, employing 1.2 million people at its 3,500 stores in the United States, insisted that the audit was meaningless, since what looked like violations could simply reflect employees' failure to punch in and out for breaks and meals they took. "Our view is that the audit really means nothing when you understand Wal-Mart's timekeeping system," said Mona Williams, Wal-Mart's vice president for communications. She said Wal-Mart did nothing in response to the audit, saying it always strives to comply with the law. But missed breaks and lunches have become a major issue in more than 40 lawsuits charging Wal-Mart with forcing employees to work without pay through lunch and rest breaks, and several lawyers and former employees who have sued Wal-Mart said the audit only bolstered their cases. They said that many employees continued to complain of missing meals and breaks. "Their own analysis confirms that they have a pattern and practice of making their employees work through their breaks and lunch on a regular basis," said James Finberg, a lawyer who has assisted several suits against Wal-Mart. "What this audit shows is against their own company policy and against the law in almost every state in which they operate." Several lawyers who sued Wal-Mart also noted that over the years Wal-Mart had ordered its employees to make sure to clock out when they took lunch and breaks. And John Fraser, who ran the federal Labor Department's wage and hour division during the 1990's, called the sheer volume of apparent violations surprising and troubling. "When you find the frequency of this kind of violation in such a large employer, such a pervasive employer, it has to be a source of great concern," Mr. Fraser said. The audit was conducted in July 2000; a copy was given to The New York Times by a longtime Wal-Mart critic hoping to pressure the company to improve working conditions. Wal-Mart has asked various courts to seal the audit for the last two years — and they have complied — ever since the company gave copies to lawyers who accused it of making employees work off the clock. The audit, written by Bret Shipley, a Wal-Mart auditor, indicated that time-clock records for thousands of workers showed tens of thousands of missed lunches and breaks. Ms. Williams said employees had probably taken their lunches and breaks but just failed to record them. She and other Wal-Mart officials also asserted that time-clock records could have been wrong in indicating that minors had worked illegally during school hours. Schools might have been closed on a given weekday, they noted. "The audit that Shipley pulled together doesn't reflect actual behavior within the facilities," Ms. Williams said. Wal-Mart officials, she said, always tried to comply with the law and repeatedly told employees to take lunches and breaks. Wal-Mart policies state that employees working seven or more hours a day are to receive a meal break and two 15-minute rest breaks. Federal law does not require lunch and meal breaks, but most states do for employees working seven or more hours a day. Several months after the Shipley audit was finished, Wal-Mart stopped requiring employees to clock out and in for 15-minute breaks. Wal-Mart officials said they eliminated this requirement for their employees' convenience, but Frank Azar, a lawyer involved in the off-the-clock suits, said Wal-Mart did this to make sure no paper trail could show that employees were not taking breaks. The audit warned that its findings could hurt the company. "Wal-Mart may face several adverse consequences as a result of staffing and scheduling not being prepared appropriately," it stated. Commissioned to help Wal-Mart executives determine whether employees were taking their meals and breaks, the audit came as the company was facing several lawsuits accusing it of off-the-clock work and failing to give breaks. Ms. Williams said that company auditors more senior than Mr. Shipley had determined that the methodology he used was flawed. "This audit is so flawed and invalid that we did not respond to it in any way internally," she said. But several current and former Wal-Mart employees confirmed in interviews that violations of state law on child labor and breaks were a recurring problem at many understaffed Wal-Mart stores. Leila Najjar said that when she worked for a Wal-Mart in a Denver suburb at age 16 and 17, she sometimes was forced to miss breaks, work past midnight and work more than eight hours a day even though Colorado bars minors from doing that. Time records from a court case showed that her store sometimes forced her to work illegal hours. During the holidays, Ms. Najjar, a recent graduate of the University of Colorado, recalled, "the store closed at 11 and there were nights we had to stay to clean up until 12:30, 12:45. It was a long day, and I was tired the next day at school. And sometimes, I'd have to work 10, 11 hours on a Saturday or Sunday." If the same rate of violations were found throughout the Wal-Mart system, that would translate into tens of thousands of child-labor violations each week at Wal-Mart's 3,500 stores and more than one million violations of company and state regulations on meals and breaks. Company officials said such extrapolations were misleading, noting that many of the seeming time-record problems could be explained by legal behavior. Wal-Mart employees clock in and out by swiping their identity badges, which the time clock reads electronically. Ms. Williams said employees sometimes forgot to swipe when they arrived at work or when they took lunch. Sometimes, she said, workers missed breaks not because management pressured them but, for example, because they wanted to finish early to take a child to the doctor. |
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Personally, Wal-Mart is capitalisim at it's best... No union to tamper with wages, no 90's-style 'we-feel-for-you' management, or attempts to 'personalize' the shopping experience... If only they would install automated checkouts & sell a box of .45 that's as good as their 9mm they'd be the perfect store... Just one company working to be as competative and efficient as possible... The immigration violations bother me, but the Govt will take care of that... If they *really* refused to re-hire veterans that's also illegal, the govt will take care of that... As I see US flags flying in WalMart shopping centers up here, I'd believe the US flag story is a ticket for snopes... |
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John Lehman, who ran several Wal-Mart stores in Kentucky, said he was sure that large-scale violations on child labor, breaks and meals continued at Wal-Mart. In the months after the company distributed the audit internally, he said, store managers like him received no word to try harder to prevent violations. "There was no follow-up to that audit, there was nothing sent out I was aware of saying, `We're bad. We screwed up. This is the remedy we're going to follow to correct the situation,' " said Mr. Lehman, who said he quit in 2001 because he was disgusted with the company's treatment of employees. He now works for a union trying to organize Wal-Mart workers. "Wal-Mart stores are so systematically understaffed that they work minors just like they do adults," he said. "They don't have enough workers to take care of the business. Yes, their prices are low but then the stores are so understaffed that workers often don't have time to take their breaks or lunches." Maria Rocha, who ran the restaurant inside a Wal-Mart in Dallas, said her workload was so great and the restaurant so understaffed that she never took breaks and often missed lunch. "It was just too busy to take a break," said Ms. Rocha, who quit in October. "There were a lot of customers, and the managers would be mad if you took a break." Verette Richardson, a former Wal-Mart cashier in Kansas City, Mo., said it was sometimes so hard to get a break that some cashiers urinated on themselves. Bella Blaubergs, a diabetic who worked at a Wal-Mart in Washington State, said she sometimes nearly fainted from low blood sugar because managers often would not give breaks. As for claims of child-labor violations and stores too understaffed for worker breaks, Ms. Williams said, "In a company that has more than 1 million people in the U.S. alone, I have no doubt that in some individual instances that can happen." |
| WesDesRat: It is nice that Wall-Mart gives to the local schools etc, but it does not excuse or mitigate gross violations of the law. It's not fair to everyone else who abides by those rules.The company is in a heap of trouble and I hope some of the execs at Benton Ark goes to prison and gets a felony rap. Kind of a little like blood money. |
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Quoted: I work at a Wal-Mart distribution center... every monday we have a general meeting with the whole wearhouse. Every meeting, they give money to local people. Police, Firemen, Schools. The town the wearhouse is in had an elementary school that couldn't afford computers... Wal-Mart gave them 20 brand new ones when they moved in. This week it was $1000 to help the local police department get new radios for all its officers that were still using the old system. [red]Last week it was $1000 worth of $15 Wal-Mart gift cards for the Highway Patrol to give to people they pulled over for wearing their seatbelts and having their kids buckled in.[/red] The employees also donated enough to give Chirstmas to two familys in need this year. Bitch all you want, but Wal-Mart still sells guns and ammo, fishing gear, and a lot of other things I buy, while most other stores are reducing the slection or getting rid of the same goods. And Wal-Mart beats their prices, every time. Everyone likes to beat their chest about sending work offshore or buying USA made things (and Wal-Mart sells a lot of USA made products)... while counting the bills in their wallet and wanting more for less. I'm tired of all bitching thats been done about Wal-Mart. If you dont like them, just dont shop there. Not to hijack the thread, but what's THAT all about? |
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Quoted: Quoted: [red]Last week it was $1000 worth of $15 Wal-Mart gift cards for the Highway Patrol to give to people they pulled over for wearing their seatbelts and having their kids buckled in.[/red] Not to hijack the thread, but what's THAT all about? Simple. Your local LEO spots you driving with your kids all in car seats or buckled in properly and are wearing your own seatbelt, he pulls you over to say "Thank you for keeping your kids and yourself safe" and gives you a gift card. |
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maybe at checkpoints? and that part of their giving is just to get more people in the store Quoted: Quoted: I work at a Wal-Mart distribution center... every monday we have a general meeting with the whole wearhouse. Every meeting, they give money to local people. Police, Firemen, Schools. The town the wearhouse is in had an elementary school that couldn't afford computers... Wal-Mart gave them 20 brand new ones when they moved in. This week it was $1000 to help the local police department get new radios for all its officers that were still using the old system. [red]Last week it was $1000 worth of $15 Wal-Mart gift cards for the Highway Patrol to give to people they pulled over for wearing their seatbelts and having their kids buckled in.[/red] The employees also donated enough to give Chirstmas to two familys in need this year. Bitch all you want, but Wal-Mart still sells guns and ammo, fishing gear, and a lot of other things I buy, while most other stores are reducing the slection or getting rid of the same goods. And Wal-Mart beats their prices, every time. Everyone likes to beat their chest about sending work offshore or buying USA made things (and Wal-Mart sells a lot of USA made products)... while counting the bills in their wallet and wanting more for less. I'm tired of all bitching thats been done about Wal-Mart. If you dont like them, just dont shop there. Not to hijack the thread, but what's THAT all about? |
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Quoted: No union to tamper with wages, ------------------------ edpmedic - I mean labor violations, Immigration Violations and Human Rights of their workers. Not small Stuff.... As I see US flags flying in WalMart shopping centers up here, I'd believe the US flag story is a ticket for snopes... Yup none of them unions to get in the way and surrounded by Chinese made American flags! The American Dream! |
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Quoted: WesDesRat: It is nice that Wall-Mart gives to the local schools etc, but it does not excuse or mitigate gross violations of the law. It's not fair to everyone else who abides by those rules.The company is in a heap of trouble and I hope some of the execs at Benton Ark goes to prison and gets a felony rap. Kind of a little like blood money. Like someone else said, if they broke the law then they will have to pay for it, and I certainly dont condone any kind of illeagal actions by ANY company... for any reason. This crap about working thru lunches and breaks is just that. If I skip a break I can get in trouble for it... and punching out for lunch is required. The health insurance is just as good as the last major company I worked for: Lowes Home Improvement. If you want to talk about "subsidizing" health care, most state and federal employees get [b]VERY[/b] good health benefits made available to them through YOUR taxes. I'm getting annoyed with all the parrots repeating what they hear over and over... "polly wanna cracker??" |
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Quoted: Quoted: No union to tamper with wages, ------------------------ edpmedic - I mean labor violations, Immigration Violations and Human Rights of their workers. Not small Stuff.... As I see US flags flying in WalMart shopping centers up here, I'd believe the US flag story is a ticket for snopes... Yup none of them unions to get in the way and surrounded by Chinese made American flags! The American Dream! I acknowledged the illegal immigration thing... You've also possibly read my comments on what should be done by the Govt to control that problem (i.e. increasing the pentalties to the point where WalMart & others will not simply write them off as a cost of business)... As for "Human Rights" violations, if you mean the break BS, at least in WI there is no law requiring companies to provide breaks. They require you to be able to take a lunch, but no specification of when. Maybe in some other states there are more regulations, but not here... Most of the places (both in retail and in computer tech) I've worked don't have customary/scheduled breaks, you just take one when/[b]if[/b] your workload allows - so I see no problem there... 'Human rights' violations in my book means discrimination. The way the article bills it seems to come from someone who believes working in a union shop is a 'human right'... You have a 'right' to consideration for employment based on your ability, and to be protected from termination based on certain limited criteria (military service, race/nationality, religeon, etc). Beyond that, [b]there are no 'rights' in business[/b] You do NOT have a 'right' to benefits, PERIOD. You do NOT have a 'right' to multiple breaks throughout the day, PERIOD. You do NOT have a 'right' to a job, EITHER... Anything else is pure socialist BS... |
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Quoted: on what should be [red]done by the Govt to control that problem[/red] (i.e. increasing the pentalties to the point where WalMart & others will not simply write them off as a cost of business)... Anything else is pure socialist BS... Could I get your definition of Socialism please? |
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Quoted: Quoted: on what should be [red]done by the Govt to control that problem[/red] (i.e. increasing the pentalties to the point where WalMart & others will not simply write them off as a cost of business)... Anything else is pure socialist BS... Could I get your definition of Socialism please? Anything involving the direct or indirect redistribution of wealth, including requirement of 'benefits' (scheduled breaks, insurance, minimum wage) for workers... If one does not like not being given regular breaks, quit and work somewhere else. There will be someone else who will gladly do your job to earn a paycheck. Enforcement of immigration laws is not socalist. That statement, in context, referrs to enhancing the penalties for violating immigration laws. |
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Me thinks it's an oddly contradictory attitude to deplore Walmart for the shitty treatment of it's workers, and at the same time cheer the fact that they're non-union. Unrestricted capitalism has consequences, this being one of them. Without a counter, big business has historically been pretty crappy to employees. I'm not weighing in either way, it's just not so black and white - especially if you're one of the mistreated employees. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Anything involving the direct or indirect redistribution of wealth And could I get your definition of Communisim please? Socialisim by force/decree. The difference between 'Socialisim' and 'Communisim' is that with socialsim it is democratically instituted and maintained... |
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Quoted: Me thinks it's an oddly contradictory attitude to deplore Walmart for the shitty treatment of it's workers, and at the same time cheer the fact that they're non-union. Unrestricted capitalism has consequences, this being one of them. Without a counter, big business has historically been pretty crappy to employees. I'm not weighing in either way, it's just not so black and white - especially if you're one of the mistreated employees. I believe the guys are ribbing me for cheering that WW is non-union... I never complained about the treatment of their employees, I said it did not & should not matter so long as it was legal... |
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Quoted: It also found 60,767 apparent instances of workers not taking breaks, and 15,705 apparent instances of employees working through meal times. I find it hard to believe this. I've never been able to find a Walmart employee that wasn't on break. Standard reply when needing assistance: "I'm on my break!" |
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My gut feeling is that the character of the company did a "Jeckyl and Hyde" transformation after Sam died. Remember a few years ago when their advertising focused on American jobs created as a result of Walmart ordering from American companies? Now it's "Sell us this at a cut rate or we'll go to the Chinese." I don't think Sam would tolerate the way things are done now. |
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Let me tell you guys a story about me and Wal*Mart. I was just 26. I had no job, few skills, and a family that was hungry. There was a new Wal*Mart opening up in town, so I applied there. I got a job changing oil at their Wal*Mart tire & lube express. I knew little about cars, so they paid me minimum wage. Within 3 months I learned how to change oil and install tires. I found out shop supivisor nake desent money so I wortked hard to become on....within 9 months I was. Then I found out Auto Center managers make good money. SO I learned all I could about inventory, ordering, alignments, and profit and lost statements. Within 2 years I was in the management traing program. At the start of year 2 I had my first management position running an Auto Center of my own. I made over $10k in bonuses that year and $35+ in salary. Btw, the same week I was hired so was another guy. He also worked in automotive and never really advanced. SO Wal*Mart gave me the opurtunity I needed to make my life better and I will always be thankful for that. Hense I will always shop there SGtar15 |
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Quoted: Let me tell you guys a story about me and Wal*Mart. I was just 26. I had no job, few skills, and a family that was hungry. There was a new Wal*Mart opening up in town, so I applied there. I got a job changing oil at their Wal*Mart tire & lube express. I knew little about cars, so they paid me minimum wage. Within 3 months I learned how to change oil and install tires. I found out shop supivisor nake desent money so I wortked hard to become on....within 9 months I was. Then I found out Auto Center managers make good money. SO I learned all I could about inventory, ordering, alignments, and profit and lost statements. Within 2 years I was in the management traing program. At the start of year 2 I had my first management position running an Auto Center of my own. I made over $10k in bonuses that year and $35+ in salary. Btw, the same week I was hired so was another guy. He also worked in automotive and never really advanced. SO Wal*Mart gave me the opurtunity I needed to make my life better and I will always be thankful for that. Hense I will always shop there SGtar15 Your story is one reason I'm not inclined to bash Wal-Mart without being specific. I'm curious what their health insurance policies are. It seems for full timers and managers it is good. Even for others it is not such a bad deal in some ways. My biggest question is how long do you have to work there to be ELIGIBLE to buy in. I'm hearing months and years, which effectively leaves you shopping for it or insured by the taxpayer. Walmart even states that the jobs are often secondary jobs in families and they feel their workers are being insured by other more responsible companies or the state and local government programs. They are pretty upfront about thinking it's OK. Somehow this seems to be a self fulfilling position for the jobs that turnover at a high rate in this company and some stores turn over their workforce 3 times in a year. People are hired and don't work long enough to acquire health insurance, which is normally offered after about 3 months in many businesses. Unions are unfair the other way. They offer full health benefits for workers at 16 hours (or did). In other words, whether you worked 16 hours or 40 hours you got the same health coverage. Didn't matter if you were single, married or had 4 kids. You and the family were covered. Nice, but unfair. Benefit contributions were not made on hours worked above 40 so overtime was really not so expensive for companies in reality. The way it should have worked was for contributions for health care to be accumulated in an account for the part-timers, whereby they could have purchased health care at their disgression. Health care should have had differing prices for individuals, couples, and families, that's the reality of the market. When unions skewed this reality they screwed their future and now they're paying for it. Companies should have offered stock incentives to their workers too, regardless of whether they were union. A worker invested in the company has extra motivation and loyalty. |
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Quoted: My gut feeling is that the character of the company did a "Jeckyl and Hyde" transformation after Sam died. Remember a few years ago when their advertising focused on American jobs created as a result of Walmart ordering from American companies? Now it's "Sell us this at a cut rate or we'll go to the Chinese." I don't think Sam would tolerate the way things are done now. They also made thier return policy less friendly. My favorite is when they tear open a package that was sealed to make sure its in there and then wont take it back becuase its open, while the person infront of you returned a grill that wasnt even cleaned with no hassle. |
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nightstalker, I don't remember much about their medical benefits. If I recall corectly that you had to be full time and you paid something into it. Yes we had a lot of part-time workers, about 1/3 of my crew was, but they wanted it that way. Wal*Mart, like any other company, HATES high employee turn over. Why? Because it cost lots of money to hire and train a new employee. Fact is this. Most of the workers that complain about wal mart are crappy workers and will bitch abouyt any job! I know many people that started out a stockboys, janitors, part-time, and etc and have moven up with the company to make a great living! If you get a stockboy job at Wal Mart and expect, or think you [i]deserve[/i] a great wage where you can feed your family, buy a new house and new car, then you are sadly mistaken! You will have to work HARD and show the bosses that you are worthy of the higher paying jobs! ANd yes, Wal*Mart's main focus is making money...lots of money. Show me one retailer who's goal isn't to make money? What do you guys think capitalism is all about anyways?? Sgtar15 |
| I worked at a distribution center for 3 years while attending college. I am a Veteran, wal-mart prefers to employ ( and re-employ) vets due to most vets having a strong work ethic. They would work your ass off at the center I worked at, they would also pay you for your time. I hated working there, but that being said, they always delt fairly with me, and anyone else who worked there. Maybe some of those who are complaing have a weak work ethic? |
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Well maybe some of you people are right. They do GREAT things for your Community till they don't need you anymore. I think my biggest problem yesterday was with the treatment of my friend. We both knew it was because of his color. Now this person was a manager so if he treated a customer like that how does he treat his employees. I am glad some of you have got ahead because of Wal-Mart. I am sure there are decent people that really love their jobs their. That they have to put up with the crap to feed their families. Maybe the hiring of Illegal aliens is giving a great boost to the people who depend on those cheap prices. I don't know but where is the line drawn....UNION's suck and BIG Business Suck. We are all puppets to them at this point. Keep getting your value packs and put your local FFL out of business. It's not just guns he sells. I to am at blame for buying their stuff. I even at one point traveled up-state when I first heard about their deals. Yesterday was a awaking for me. |
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I was recently in the market for some boots. I went to Wally World and saw $20-$40 boots, and every pair had the "Made In China" tag. I ended up going to the Red Wing store. Although it exceeded my budget a tad, I'm glad I did it. Walmart is becoming the world's biggest outlet for the PLA factories. |
| Wal-Mart is China's 5th largest trading partner, responsible for 1/5 of all exports from China. When you shop at WalMart you are supporting the Chinese gov't and people. This is the same gov't that is working very hard to make sure democrats, not republicans, run this country. I really don't know why anybody would want to shop there. |
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Walmart appeals to a certain class of shopper, one who is looking for rock bottom prices and doesn't care about service or where the products are manufactured. My brother is that way. He could care less if his tools are Chinese, so he buys almost everything at Walmart. I prefer American made goods and good service and I am willing to pay more for it. I've been to Walmart maybe twice and there are two stores close by. Anyway, you get what you pay for. If you don't mind supporting the PLA and don't mind crappy service, shop at Walmart. |
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Quoted: I was recently in the market for some boots. I went to Wally World and saw $20-$40 boots, and every pair had the "Made In China" tag. I ended up going to the Red Wing store. Although it exceeded my budget a tad, I'm glad I did it... last time I went to Red Wing, I saw lots of "made in china" tags. |
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Quoted: last time I went to Red Wing, I saw lots of "made in china" tags. I will not shop at Wal-Mart, if I can avoid it at all. This is just my personal philosophy, and I have my reasons. |
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I don't think what they are accused of is a big deal. They employ about a million people. The audit counts each "incident" and I bet on an annual basis, given one million employees, they have something like 200 million instances of people working a shift at Walmart. GunLvr |