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1/8/2004 3:04:22 PM EDT
Ok...this is just too good.

Yes its Canadian Content....but as I have pointed out WE are the UN gun control experiment.

Its in Real Audio..

Flip ahead to 47.25..

Link removed as it has died..


The commentator is Rex Murphy a Canadian Fixture...

Make sure to have you antigun relatives watch as well.
1/8/2004 3:17:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Bump for tomorrow on the office DSL.
1/8/2004 3:44:07 PM EDT
[#2]
I get the impression that Mr Murphy is no friend of firearms, but he makes a great case as to the uselessness of firearms registries.  Go figure, criminals break the law!  Who knew?

1/8/2004 4:15:18 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm having trouble thinking of anyone in the US news media who would have the integrety and balls to say the same type of thing. Maybe John Stossel? Not very many at any rate.

Don in Ohio
1/8/2004 4:26:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Mr. Murphy seems to have a thing against handguns....calling them "wretched".  However in this case I believe that he is refering to those used by cowardly criminals.

The whole gun issue in Canada has really taken on steam this past week with almost every newspaper in the country calling for scraping the registry....but the Feds are still not moving!!!


For all our sakes I hope we can kill this thing....your antigunners will have a very hard time explaining the Canadian Gun Control Failure!
1/8/2004 5:46:58 PM EDT
[#5]
Money quote:

I know it will stagger everyone to hear this, but it doesn't quite work like that. Whether its a rash of gun killings, or just a single gun murder, our platinum priced gun registry, with its billion dollar cost overrun, is not just ORDINARILY useless in case of this kind: IT IS PERFECTLY USELESS! It is useless without qualification. It does nothing.

This may surprise a few anti-gun philosophers, but the knowledge that a fireman has a 12 guage in sasq., or that a hunter has a 30-30 in newfoundland, is INFINITELY irrelevant, it is sublimely without purpose or point, for a gang shooting in downtown Toronto or the butchery of a good samaritan in the Gastoun of Vancouver.

You know why, of course. The very people who shoot other people as a hobby, a passtime or a career, are -- wait for it -- the very people who don't give a flying fig about registering their wretched handguns in the first place. People who shoot people do not join lineups to tell police where the stole, smuggled, or bought their guns in the first place.
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1/8/2004 6:03:11 PM EDT
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For all our sakes I hope we can kill this thing....your antigunners will have a very hard time explaining the Canadian Gun Control Failure!
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I know EXACTLY how VPC, AGS, etc... will play it.  It was failure because it wasn't done right.  Gun registration works when you do it right.  The Canadian Goverment needed to be tougher and not put up will all its [s]Citizens[/s] Subjects resisting the program.  They needed to pour more money into it and make it work, no matter what.  A billion or even two billion, that's worth it if even a single life is saved.

No one has done it right yet, but when they do gun crime will vanish and we'll all live happly ever after.



Mark my words.  This is the spin that will be put on it.
1/8/2004 6:27:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Looks like they have updated to todays news...

Here is the text of his comments in full..thanks to a fellow CGN member.


For the second time in less than a year parts of Toronto resemble a bad gangster movie. Almost every weekend for the last while one or more people are shot.

Some are injured, others killed. At clubs, at dances, on the street. There's usually a crowd present when the fireworks start but there's hardly ever a witness with the guts to come forward afterwards.

Vancouver is not as rife with gun killings or injuries as Toronto, but there was one killing in Vancouver recently even more disgusting than some of the ones here. The young woman killed by a handgun was trying to help some poor character who was being set upon and kicked by a bunch of thugs.

She got shot and killed in the downtown district of gasstown. It seems particularly miserable that the only person with spirit and conscience to interfere with a beating -- a genuine good samaritin -- gets shot and killed. Killed, esentially, for being a decent human being.

If this level of murderous thugery were present in any other country but Canada I suppose the public attitude would have to be one of despair and helplessness. But Canada? Our dear Canada has had, for a number of years now, one of the most thorough and, certainly, one of the most expensive gun registry programs since the very invention of gunpowder.

And, if we are to to oblige the logic that went into setting up a system of registering firearms with a cost only slightly less than the missile defence program, it has to be that when a gun goes off criminally in this country all the police have to do is tap the nearest computer keyboard, pick up the handcuffs on their way out, and nab the felon.

I know it will stagger everyone to hear this, but it doesn't quite happen to work like that. Whether its a rash of gun killings or just a single gun murder our platinum priced gun registry, with its billion dollar cost overrun, is not just ordinarily useless in cases of this kind. It is perfectly useless.

It is useless without qualification. It does nothing.

This may surprise a few anti-gun philosophers but the knowledge that a farmer has a 12 guage in Saskatchewan or a hunter has a 30-30 in Newfoundland is infinitely irrelavent, it is sublimely without purpose or point for a gang shooting in downtown Toronto.

Or the butchery of a good samaritan in the gasstown of Vancouver.

You know why, of course. The very people who shoot other people as a hobby, a passtime, or career are --- wait for it --- the very people who don't give a flying fig about registering their wretched handguns in the first place.

People who shoot people do not join lineups to tell police where they stole, smuggled, or bought their guns in the first place.

So now, Paul Martin, staring down a billion dollars worth of ludicrously expensive wishful thinking is about to look into the gun registry. If he doesn't scrap it alltogether -- admit it was nothing more than wasteful piety from its very conception and close it down we will know he's only playing with the issue.

It is a waste.

He knows its a waste. And a politically correct waste to boot.

Its a billion dollar bag of perfect uselessness.

Lets see him act on that knowledge.

For the National, I'm Rex Murphy.
1/8/2004 6:37:09 PM EDT
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No one has done it right yet, but when they do . . .
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You know, if you talk long enough with a member of the Looney Liberal Left ("LLL"), you'll find that they have the EXACT same viewpoint as to communism.  "The russians just did it wrong," they say.

Frightening.