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No legal significance. No deal Brexit on WTO terms remains the default and is set for 23:00hrs on 29/03/2019 If MPs don't want the UK to leave without a deal in a fortnight they must either pass a withdrawal agreement, revoke Article 50 or ask the EU for an extension. The EU could, and would tell the UK to fuck off. Right now we need 312 lamp-posts and 312 decent lengths of rope - just in case. View Quote Side question for you: Has the Queen made any statements of support or opposition to Brexit? or is commenting on votes/laws not something that is traditionally done? |
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No deal means we pay them nothing, leave on WTO, open ourselves to world wide trade with no interference from the EU. Job done on 29th March 2019. It also means a clean break for the EU, who can then get on with whatever they need to do without the uncertainty of the UK dithering constantly causing them issues. Anything else is just a spineless fucking weasel attempt to overturn the democratic decision made to leave and deserves the wrath of th British people. It will be divisive, damaging and dangerous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So if we get out with no deal we don’t have to pay the 39 billion or whatever it is? I think that was tied in or do we still have to pay. I say fuck em It also means a clean break for the EU, who can then get on with whatever they need to do without the uncertainty of the UK dithering constantly causing them issues. Anything else is just a spineless fucking weasel attempt to overturn the democratic decision made to leave and deserves the wrath of th British people. It will be divisive, damaging and dangerous. What are you going to use?? pointy sticks and rocks? |
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Yep...they thought they were free...
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Certainly hope that's how it goes. Side question for you: Has the Queen made any statements of support or opposition to Brexit? or is commenting on votes/laws not something that is traditionally done? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No legal significance. No deal Brexit on WTO terms remains the default and is set for 23:00hrs on 29/03/2019 If MPs don't want the UK to leave without a deal in a fortnight they must either pass a withdrawal agreement, revoke Article 50 or ask the EU for an extension. The EU could, and would tell the UK to fuck off. Right now we need 312 lamp-posts and 312 decent lengths of rope - just in case. Side question for you: Has the Queen made any statements of support or opposition to Brexit? or is commenting on votes/laws not something that is traditionally done? I do find it mildly amusing that 312 MPs chose a meaningless vote to out themselves as being willing to ignore the will of the people in an effort to remove a no deal Brexit, and in doing so demonstrated a willingness to remove the only bargaining chip they had to get a deal. Never under-estimate the sheer stupidity of the political classes. |
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Good luck my British friends. Like us, you need all of the help that you can get.
It's a damned miserable shame the politicians are no longer beholden to the electorate. |
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Serious question. Why are American liberals so opposed to this?
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Serious question. Why are American liberals so opposed to this? View Quote What better world to live in for a liberal than being able to dictate people’s actions without fear of facing a penatly for going too far. Oh, and your budget gets force funded by the member countries. It should also be noted that our favorite dossier compiler Chris Steele was working against Bexit before he started working for Fusion. He was also compiling intel on Marie LePen. |
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Not yet. Doubt she will. I do find it mildly amusing that 312 MPs chose a meaningless vote to out themselves as being willing to ignore the will of the people in an effort to remove a no deal Brexit, and in doing so demonstrated a willingness to remove the only bargaining chip they had to get a deal. Never under-estimate the sheer stupidity of the political classes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No legal significance. No deal Brexit on WTO terms remains the default and is set for 23:00hrs on 29/03/2019 If MPs don't want the UK to leave without a deal in a fortnight they must either pass a withdrawal agreement, revoke Article 50 or ask the EU for an extension. The EU could, and would tell the UK to fuck off. Right now we need 312 lamp-posts and 312 decent lengths of rope - just in case. Side question for you: Has the Queen made any statements of support or opposition to Brexit? or is commenting on votes/laws not something that is traditionally done? I do find it mildly amusing that 312 MPs chose a meaningless vote to out themselves as being willing to ignore the will of the people in an effort to remove a no deal Brexit, and in doing so demonstrated a willingness to remove the only bargaining chip they had to get a deal. Never under-estimate the sheer stupidity of the political classes. |
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Serious question. Why are American liberals so opposed to this? View Quote Without the UK, the EU has lost the 5th biggest economy in the world and it puts a serious hole in the EU's ability to redistribute wealth, lay tariffs on trading partners like the US, and it leaves the EU exposed to an even more spectacular collapse of the EU economy. They also desperately want it to fail in order to discourage other EU nations from pulling the plug and walking away. |
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Good luck my British friends. Like us, you need all of the help that you can get. It's a damned miserable shame the politicians are no longer beholden to the electorate. View Quote Right now, unless they redeem themselves, the political backlash will be brutal. |
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All that border regulation and international shipping issues and trade and all that...
Sounds exactly like the sort of shit one ought to expect to have to deal with as administrators of a country. |
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All that border regulation and international shipping issues and trade and all that... Sounds exactly like the sort of shit one ought to expect to have to deal with as administrators of a country. View Quote |
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so civil war??? What are you going to use?? pointy sticks and rocks? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So if we get out with no deal we don’t have to pay the 39 billion or whatever it is? I think that was tied in or do we still have to pay. I say fuck em It also means a clean break for the EU, who can then get on with whatever they need to do without the uncertainty of the UK dithering constantly causing them issues. Anything else is just a spineless fucking weasel attempt to overturn the democratic decision made to leave and deserves the wrath of th British people. It will be divisive, damaging and dangerous. What are you going to use?? pointy sticks and rocks? ballot box pen |
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Lawmakers voted by 312 to 308 in favor of a cross-party motion that ruled out a potentially disorderly ‘no-deal’ Brexit under any circumstances. View Quote Throughout this process, the EU has pretty much refused to negotiate. Only in the last few days, when a no-deal Brexit started to look like a real possibility, have they even started to give anything at all. This vote, in my opinion, just completely destroyed any momentum that had been gained and any real chance of achieving a reasonable deal. The EU will be back to telling the UK to fuck off. They have no incentive to deal. The UK just told them they they will either accept whatever shitty fucking deal the EU offers, or will simply back away from Brexit altogether. I'm sure that, in the next vote, they will vote to ask for a delay so they have more time to work out a deal. Which is flat out retarded. Negotiations didn't fail because there wasn't enough time. They failed because the EU believes that, by making it difficult, they can stop Brexit altogether. And it appears that they are right. |
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This seems like a monumentally stupid decision. Throughout this process, the EU has pretty much refused to negotiate. Only in the last few days, when a no-deal Brexit started to look like a real possibility, have they even started to give anything at all. This vote, in my opinion, just completely destroyed any momentum that had been gained and any real chance of achieving a reasonable deal. The EU will be back to telling the UK to fuck off. They have no incentive to deal. The UK just told them they they will either accept whatever shitty fucking deal the EU offers, or will simply back away from Brexit altogether. I'm sure that, in the next vote, they will vote to ask for a delay so they have more time to work out a deal. Which is flat out retarded. Negotiations didn't fail because there wasn't enough time. They failed because the EU believes that, by making it difficult, they can stop Brexit altogether. And it appears that they are right. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lawmakers voted by 312 to 308 in favor of a cross-party motion that ruled out a potentially disorderly ‘no-deal’ Brexit under any circumstances. Throughout this process, the EU has pretty much refused to negotiate. Only in the last few days, when a no-deal Brexit started to look like a real possibility, have they even started to give anything at all. This vote, in my opinion, just completely destroyed any momentum that had been gained and any real chance of achieving a reasonable deal. The EU will be back to telling the UK to fuck off. They have no incentive to deal. The UK just told them they they will either accept whatever shitty fucking deal the EU offers, or will simply back away from Brexit altogether. I'm sure that, in the next vote, they will vote to ask for a delay so they have more time to work out a deal. Which is flat out retarded. Negotiations didn't fail because there wasn't enough time. They failed because the EU believes that, by making it difficult, they can stop Brexit altogether. And it appears that they are right. Imagine walking into a car show room to buy a new car and telling the salesman that whatever happens you will not be leaving the showroom without a new car. It doesn't matter how much you pay, how badly they treat you, or how deeply you are locked in to a really shit sales contract, you will NOT be leaving without a car. As negotiating positions go, it's utter madness. That is effectively what the UK Parliament just tried to do to the UK people. |
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Saint Nigel's phone analysis:
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What a surprise they are expected to ignore the voters and delay the brexit. Our overlords are beginning to see there is no reason to continue letting the little people think they can determine their destiny. My money is on this. Down to the wire last second deal all parties avoid anything of consequence happening, please check back in 2022 Hope I am proved wrong. |
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Quoted: Exactly. Imagine walking into a car show room to buy a new car and telling the salesman that whatever happens you will not be leaving the showroom without a new car. It doesn't matter how much you pay, how badly they treat you, or how deeply you are locked in to a really shit sales contract, you will NOT be leaving without a car. As negotiating positions go, it's utter madness. That is effectively what the UK Parliament just tried to do to the UK people. View Quote |
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Quoted: Exactly. Imagine walking into a car show room to buy a new car and telling the salesman that whatever happens you will not be leaving the showroom without a new car. It doesn't matter how much you pay, how badly they treat you, or how deeply you are locked in to a really shit sales contract, you will NOT be leaving without a car. As negotiating positions go, it's utter madness. That is effectively what the UK Parliament just tried to do to the UK people. View Quote The voters are the ones that demanded two years ago - we will not be leaving without a car. Having made that demand, the political leaders are now left to clean up the mess. A mess brought on by all those people voting leave in the stupid plebiscite. So, now they fall back on excuses like deep state or the swamp, or any of the rest of that rot. |
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Because it goes against their utopian new world order, and pulls the UK out of one of the biggest post democratic socialist experiments ever conceived. Without the UK, the EU has lost the 5th biggest economy in the world and it puts a serious hole in the EU's ability to redistribute wealth, lay tariffs on trading partners like the US, and it leaves the EU exposed to an even more spectacular collapse of the EU economy. They also desperately want it to fail in order to discourage other EU nations from pulling the plug and walking away. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Serious question. Why are American liberals so opposed to this? Without the UK, the EU has lost the 5th biggest economy in the world and it puts a serious hole in the EU's ability to redistribute wealth, lay tariffs on trading partners like the US, and it leaves the EU exposed to an even more spectacular collapse of the EU economy. They also desperately want it to fail in order to discourage other EU nations from pulling the plug and walking away. |
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As always, thanks for the breakdown Agent.
I was disappointed to read that Jeremy Clarkson said some really rotten shit about Brits who chose to leave. And, took a swipe at Trump and his supporters at the same time. |
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They are beholden to the electorate. Right now, unless they redeem themselves, the political backlash will be brutal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good luck my British friends. Like us, you need all of the help that you can get. It's a damned miserable shame the politicians are no longer beholden to the electorate. Right now, unless they redeem themselves, the political backlash will be brutal. I’m not optimistic that any of these clowns (on both sides of the pond) will do what they are told. Ours just run nilly-Willy all over the place. I’ve turned into a cynic |
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Quoted: No, that was the Brexit vote. The voters are the ones that demanded two years ago - we will not be leaving without a car. Having made that demand, the political leaders are now left to clean up the mess. A mess brought on by all those people voting leave in the stupid plebiscite. So, now they fall back on excuses like deep state or the swamp, or any of the rest of that rot. View Quote |
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No, that was the Brexit vote. The voters are the ones that demanded two years ago - we will not be leaving without a car. Having made that demand, the political leaders are now left to clean up the mess. A mess brought on by all those people voting leave in the stupid plebiscite. So, now they fall back on excuses like deep state or the swamp, or any of the rest of that rot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Exactly. Imagine walking into a car show room to buy a new car and telling the salesman that whatever happens you will not be leaving the showroom without a new car. It doesn't matter how much you pay, how badly they treat you, or how deeply you are locked in to a really shit sales contract, you will NOT be leaving without a car. As negotiating positions go, it's utter madness. That is effectively what the UK Parliament just tried to do to the UK people. The voters are the ones that demanded two years ago - we will not be leaving without a car. Having made that demand, the political leaders are now left to clean up the mess. A mess brought on by all those people voting leave in the stupid plebiscite. So, now they fall back on excuses like deep state or the swamp, or any of the rest of that rot. |
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No, that was the Brexit vote. The voters are the ones that demanded two years ago - we will not be leaving without a car. Having made that demand, the political leaders are now left to clean up the mess. A mess brought on by all those people voting leave in the stupid plebiscite. So, now they fall back on excuses like deep state or the swamp, or any of the rest of that rot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Exactly. Imagine walking into a car show room to buy a new car and telling the salesman that whatever happens you will not be leaving the showroom without a new car. It doesn't matter how much you pay, how badly they treat you, or how deeply you are locked in to a really shit sales contract, you will NOT be leaving without a car. As negotiating positions go, it's utter madness. That is effectively what the UK Parliament just tried to do to the UK people. The voters are the ones that demanded two years ago - we will not be leaving without a car. Having made that demand, the political leaders are now left to clean up the mess. A mess brought on by all those people voting leave in the stupid plebiscite. So, now they fall back on excuses like deep state or the swamp, or any of the rest of that rot. I did. The options were to leave the EU or Remain in the EU. It was not “Leave only if we get a deal”. |
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Amendment votes going on currently.
Failed To Load Title Second referendum amendment rejected 85 to 334 MPs have voted against amendment H - the call for a second referendum put forward by Independent Group MP Sarah Wollaston - by 85 to 334 in spite of it being the first time that politicians have been able to vote for a return to the public this year. However, it would have cancelled out both the Benn amendment and the Labour amendment, so was expected to fail. LINK |
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Quoted: Did you fill out a ballot paper? I did. The options were to leave the EU or Remain in the EU. It was not “Leave only if we get a deal”. View Quote Once the vote was taken, then the EU had the leverage in any negotiation. In contrast, the people trying to cut a deal for the UK to improve the situation relative to a hard exit have basically no leverage. The EU knew in advance they had basically three options: stay and piss off some portion of the voters, hard exit, or the deal the EU offered. So, no shit, the deal offered by the EU was far less than ideal. Stevie Wonder could see that coming. |
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Powell amendment loses by 3 votes
The amendment to the Benn amendment has been very narrowly defeated 311-314. Defeat of the Powell amendment could mean a couple of things. Either MPs don't want their efforts to find an alternative way forward locked into a tight time schedule, or they don't support the Benn amendment anyway. We'll find out shortly. LINK |
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Benn amendment defeated by 312 to 314
MPs have voted not to take control of the Brexit process and hold indicative votes on possible ways forward next Wednesday. The government had whipped against. Here's our summary of the Benn amendment from earlier: Labour’s Hilary Benn and Yvette Cooper, and the Conservative Oliver Letwin, have proposed a series of indicative votes that would allow MPs to rank their favoured Brexit options. This would provide the most reliable test so far of what form of Brexit the Commons really wants. Options would almost certainly include: Mrs May’s deal plus a permanent customs union; membership of the single market and customs union; and a second EU referendum. Much will depend on how the voting system works, given that no option is expected to win a majority in the first round. Mr Benn’s amendment would allow the debate on different options to start next Wednesday, March 20. Mrs May could try to pre-empt it by putting her Brexit deal to the vote again on Tuesday. LINK |
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Labour amendment rejected 302 to 318
The amendment would have sought an extension of Article 50 to avoid no-deal on 29 March and to provide parliamentary time to find a majority for a different approach. MPs head for main motion vote MPs are now voting on the government's main, unamended motion. It sets up an extension of the Article 50 process beyond March 29 - either a short one if the deal is passed next week, or a long one if it doesn't. https://www.ft.com/content/5605c7ee-5436-3f3f-9af5-e0d17a57f365 |
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U.K. lawmakers voted in favor of seeking a delayed departure from the EU on Thursday, marking another step in a political crisis that has ripped through the heart of Westminster. Members of Parliament (MPs) voted by 412 to 202 for an extension to "Article 50" — which sets out the EU departure process — beyond its current March 29 deadline. The vote was non-binding, however, and the EU will have to agree to a delay. Brussels has already stated that Britain needs to justify requesting such an extension. The vote completes a dramatic trilogy of events this week which have added yet more confusion into the whole Brexit process. On Tuesday, Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit deal suffered a second humiliating defeat as it was voted down by a majority of 149 votes. Then on Wednesday, U.K. lawmakers rejected the idea of leaving the bloc without a Withdrawal Agreement in place. The main motion on Thursday evening was tabled by May and her government and its passing was a rare piece of good news for her during a difficult week. The exact wording meant that lawmakers approved an extension until June 30 if Parliament approves the government's Brexit deal by March 20. The motion was in danger of being radically altered by a series of amendments, which would have frustrated May's government once again. U.K. politicians narrowly voted against a senior opposition MP's amendment which would have allowed lawmakers to take control of the parliamentary business and potentially hold indicative votes on the Brexit process, undermining May's control of the situation. May has already indicated that she will bring her much-maligned Brexit deal back in front of Parliament next week for another vote. No date has yet been scheduled for the third so-called "meaningful" vote. However, the government motion states it must take place before March 20. With time running out — and a fear that a long delay could mean Brexit is cancelled altogether — pro-Brexit rebels in May's party could change their minds and vote alongside the U.K leader next week — finally passing the deal at the third attempt. LINK ---- MPs vote to delay Brexit by 412 to 202 British MPs have voted to allow the government to seek to delay the Brexit date and extend article 50 - either to the end of June if she can finally pass her deal next week and take it to the EU on its third time of trying, or for a much longer period to allow time to find an alternative approach to Brexit. If the latter, then the government would hold a series of indicative votes to test different ideas with MPs to seek a majority, but it could also mean that the UK might have to take part in the EU elections in May. EU27 now face Brexit delay question Leaving the EU on March 29 is no longer UK government policy. Tonight's result means Theresa May will now seek an extension to the negotiation period known as Article 50. There will be two options, according to tonight's motion. One is a short extension, based on May's existing deal passing when it comes back for a third vote next week. The other is a long extension, that will include UK participation in European elections in May. None of this is automatic. The EU's 27 remaining members all have the chance to veto any extension, although the noises from Brussels and elsewhere suggest this is unlikely. LINK |
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Oliver Cromwell:
Speech dismissing Rump Parliament - 20 April 1653, London, England "It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice. Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government. Ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money. Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse. Gold is your God. Which of you have not bartered your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth? Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defiled this sacred place, and turned the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance. Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God's help, and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do. I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place. Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!" |
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March 12: The U.K.'s Brexit deal with the EU has been rejected by U.K. lawmakers in another landmark defeat for British Prime Minister Theresa May. May's Brexit deal was defeated for the first time back in January but she had hoped last-ditch tweaks to the deal, specifically on the contentious Irish border issue, would help persuade Members of Parliament (MPs) to change their minds. Her deal was rejected by 149 votes after 242 MPs voted for the deal and 392 MPs voted against the deal. Sterling pared earlier losses against the dollar after the decision to trade 0.2 percent lower at $1.3124. The deal's chances were dealt a blow earlier on Tuesday when the government's chief legal advisor said that the risks to the U.K. from the "Irish backstop" remained unchanged despite recent legal assurances from Brussels — although he did say the risks had been reduced by the tweaks. The Irish backstop is a mechanism to avoid restoration of the "hard" border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland that was erased with the 1998 Good Friday peace agreement between London and Dublin. Some U.K. politicians don't like the fact that the backstop, although intended as a last-resort, would mean the U.K. remaining within a EU customs union for an indefinite amount of time and unable to leave unilaterally, effectively meaning it might be tied to the EU for an unspecified duration. LINK March 13: British lawmakers on Wednesday overwhelmingly rejected leaving the European Union without a deal, paving the way for a vote to delay Brexit to seek a way out of Britain’s worst political crisis in generations. Lawmakers voted by 312 to 308 in favor of a cross-party motion that ruled out a potentially disorderly ‘no-deal’ Brexit under any circumstances. It went further than the government’s own planned motion, which noted that parliament did not want to leave without a deal on March 29 and that the default legal position was to leave without a deal unless one was ratified by parliament. While the approved motion has no legal force and ultimately may not prevent a no-deal exit after a possible delay, it carries considerable political force. LINK ---- Both Britain and the EU have ramped up planning for a no-deal Brexit, which would rip up decades of rules for travel and trade between Britain and the bloc. Economists say it could cause huge upheaval, with customs checks causing gridlock at U.K. ports, new tariffs triggering sudden price increases and red tape for everyone from truckers to tourists. The U.K. government announced its plans for the Irish border in the event of a no-deal Brexit, saying it wouldn’t impose new checks, duties or controls on goods coming from EU member Ireland into Northern Ireland. It also said it wouldn’t slap tariffs on 87 percent of goods coming into Britain from the EU — though there would be new levies on imports of some items including meat and cars. The tariffs, intended to be temporary, wouldn’t apply to goods crossing from Ireland to Northern Ireland, raising fears the plan would spark a rise in smuggling. If a no-deal Brexit is ruled out, Parliament will vote Thursday on whether to ask the EU to delay Britain’s departure. The EU — openly exasperated by Britain’s continuing Brexit crisis — warned that the U.K. would need to present a strong reason for any extension. “I am against every extension — whether an extension of one day, one week, even 24 hours — if it’s not based on a clear opinion of the House of Commons for something,” said the European Parliament’s chief Brexit official, Guy Verhofstadt. “Please make up your minds in London, because this uncertainty cannot continue.” The European Parliament, meanwhile, approved measures to ameliorate the immediate hardships of a no-deal Brexit. It backed emergency plans to provide continuity for everything from air, port and road traffic to foreign students to the fishing industry. The U.K. Parliament has twice rejected the withdrawal agreement that May spent two years negotiating with the EU, and the bloc insists there will be no more talks. LINK March 14: U.K. lawmakers voted in favor of seeking a delayed departure from the EU on Thursday, marking another step in a political crisis that has ripped through the heart of Westminster. Members of Parliament (MPs) voted by 412 to 202 for an extension to "Article 50" — which sets out the EU departure process — beyond its current March 29 deadline. The vote was non-binding, however, and the EU will have to agree to a delay. Brussels has already stated that Britain needs to justify requesting such an extension. The vote completes a dramatic trilogy of events this week which have added yet more confusion into the whole Brexit process. On Tuesday, Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit deal suffered a second humiliating defeat as it was voted down by a majority of 149 votes. Then on Wednesday, U.K. lawmakers rejected the idea of leaving the bloc without a Withdrawal Agreement in place. The main motion on Thursday evening was tabled by May and her government and its passing was a rare piece of good news for her during a difficult week. The exact wording meant that lawmakers approved an extension until June 30 if Parliament approves the government's Brexit deal by March 20. The motion was in danger of being radically altered by a series of amendments, which would have frustrated May's government once again. U.K. politicians narrowly voted against a senior opposition MP's amendment which would have allowed lawmakers to take control of the parliamentary business and potentially hold indicative votes on the Brexit process, undermining May's control of the situation. LINK What next? May has already indicated that she will bring her much-maligned Brexit deal back in front of Parliament next week for another vote. No date has yet been scheduled for the third so-called "meaningful" vote. However, the government motion states it must take place before March 20. 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I'm starting to get a little worried that the British voters are going to be screwed over........ View Quote First of many deadlines to be missed. The delays will become garden variety as the years continue to pass by. Nothing of any consequence is happening check back in June for your next delay date. |
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