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The use of narcan to resuscitate an illicit drug user ought to carry a 6-month jail sentence and a $10,000 fine.
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The use of narcan to resuscitate an illicit drug user ought to carry a 6-month jail sentence and a $10,000 fine. View Quote I'm sure requiring emergency medical personnel to make snap judgement (on pain of jail and massive fine) about which dying patients deserve emergency care will have no adverse consequences at all. Conservatism! Ideas so awesome they have to be mandatory! Just like liberalism! |
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What happens when a first responder accidentaly ingests some on scene? Banning things is never the answer. View Quote If He Dies He Dies |
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They need to make Narcan Unavailable. If a druggie dies, so what. I have a druggie brother, if he dies, so what. He already ruined his life to the point that he should die, cus he is a fucking POS of Society now. May a Thousand Fucks be upon him, and hope he OD's again without Narcan around.
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Now, if only the state would put this guy away for life or
at the very least make sure he never drives again BUT instead he'll be out in no time and driving, no problem. |
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I had to google what a narcan was
Tragic Piece of shit should be roasted in a Brazen bull. |
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Yay, more laws! I'm sure requiring emergency medical personnel to make snap judgement (on pain of jail and massive fine) about which dying patients deserve emergency care will have no adverse consequences at all. Conservatism! Ideas so awesome they have to be mandatory! Just like liberalism! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The use of narcan to resuscitate an illicit drug user ought to carry a 6-month jail sentence and a $10,000 fine. I'm sure requiring emergency medical personnel to make snap judgement (on pain of jail and massive fine) about which dying patients deserve emergency care will have no adverse consequences at all. Conservatism! Ideas so awesome they have to be mandatory! Just like liberalism! |
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He doesn't. He'll only care about where he's going to get his next dose of heroin hoping it'll get him back in the Nexxus. Yeah, I used a Star Trek-ism. Only thing that comes close to describing where they think it'll take them. My brother was a heroin addict.
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I understood you and concur. He had a choice to use or not use; he chose poorly.
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Quoted: Really? Blame the drug? I'm sure some people got shot and killed somewhere today. Lets blame the guns instead of the dumbasses View Quote Ending the use of narcan for ODs is more like ending heroic measures to save people who shoot themselves playing Russian roulette. Nobody is saying that revolvers should be outlawed to stop the idiots from killing themselves. |
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His point is the opioids didn't magic themselves into the drug users body.
If someone dies from an inteltional massive dose of a drug, I have little sympathy. |
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Yay, more laws! I'm sure requiring emergency medical personnel to make snap judgement (on pain of jail and massive fine) about which dying patients deserve emergency care will have no adverse consequences at all. Conservatism! Ideas so awesome they have to be mandatory! Just like liberalism! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The use of narcan to resuscitate an illicit drug user ought to carry a 6-month jail sentence and a $10,000 fine. I'm sure requiring emergency medical personnel to make snap judgement (on pain of jail and massive fine) about which dying patients deserve emergency care will have no adverse consequences at all. Conservatism! Ideas so awesome they have to be mandatory! Just like liberalism! If someone doesn't have the $5,000 in their wallet to cover the EMT call, ambulance ride and hospital visit, they should not be administered narcan for an overdose on the basis of high risk the services will never be paid for. |
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no my point was it was completely the dumbasses fault and not the drugs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Narcan should only be legal for use in botched anesthesia and accidental exposure (for instance a police officer gets exposed to fentanyl while working an arrest)
It should be illegal to administer narcan to illegal drug use OD's. Stupid should hurt. |
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Junkies like that should get life in prison. When my daughters were 4, 9, and 11 they were staying with my ex wife at her aunts house(she absconded with them). Anyway, there was a teenage cousin living there and her junkie boyfriend would leave used needles in the yard where the kids would play. Luckily he OD’d so I didn’t have to kill him when I heard about it.
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How is what he did any different than any other DUI? Oh snap it is not. So stop blaming what they are using unless you' want GD full of "Budweiser killed another one" "Johnny Black turned the streets red" threads. Drugs are drugs ETA: I do not drink, and I gave up Skoal a while back. Clean living bitches View Quote Nice try though. |
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Another piece of shit druggie shit stain exercising his freedom to use and acting responsibly, while costing society nothing.........oh wait, this is a real world story and not a fairy tale.
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Quoted: He didn't say ban opioids because the driver crashed. That would have made your analogy somewhat, well, analogous. As it stands, your point was no one where to be found. View Quote By saying "no opioid apologists yet" you can draw the conclusion he was saying "the drugs did this" and not just the asshole who went out and got fucked up and did it. Same thing with drunk drivers. |
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No opioid apologists yet? View Quote The people posting that they no longer get the medicine they need for their injured and sometimes dying family members, are they "opiopd apologists"? I keep my Tylenol 3 in the gun safe, because I never knnow when it's going to hop in the car and run over people |
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That's not how any of this works, but that ain't stopping anyone from sharing their ill-formed, illogical, and inconsistent opinions.
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Sad.
I do not miss dealing with shortages and urgent meetings about the opiod problem. As others can attest to. We had units running to calls and finding entire families tripping. Had calls where one of the fam members is Code 4, we revived them only to return a week later for the same stinking thing....darwin club It has gotten beyond ridiculous. |
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I grew up in Vernon. Nice town, too many retards though. I agree, Narcan needs to be banned. Fuck that piece of shit.
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Doctors work to snuff out the life of unborn, innocent babies while EMS/PD work to save wasted fools.
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They need to outlaw narcan. I'm sick of these fucks wasting tax dollars View Quote This was very unfortunate. Saving his life will make him have to live with what he did and let's hope his story will help others sober up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_from_drug_overdose_and_intoxication |
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Driver is from next town from me
I think it’s a preview of legal weed in nj and the car crashes as a result |
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I'd like to see the stats on people that have been given one dose of narcan and never had another issue. I know around me, the cops that I know all say that they are all repeat offenders. I know of one person that has had narcan like four or five times last I heard. Just let the moron die. First time, maybe everyone makes mistakes. But after that that person is making a decision to OD. Why are we wasting time and resources "rescuing" that person again and again. For every one person that changes their life and doesn't do drugs ever again there are 100 that just continue to use and continue to be a drag on society.
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We need a Martin Shkreli type character out there to buy the rights to Narcan and then jack up the price to make it so governments won't give it away for free.
Or...group buy, anyone? |
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No opioid apologists yet? View Quote Oh and btw, according to this, nj has some of the most stringent opioid laws in the nation https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.connerstrong.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/New-Opioid-Law-Signed-in-NJ.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwik3ZfjtMrgAhWmiOAKHbfgCfEQFjADegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw16Ar-wSIxINVDlE6y4D9ra So somehow, even though initial prescriptions are limited to 5 days, this guy managed to get high enough to wipe out 3 people. Oh that's right, he's a junkie and still found a way. Probably involved heroin or illicit fentanyl, but fuck it, let's just call it part of the prescription pills epidemic. That's what the gov does. Anyway, he shouldn't be charged with manslaughter, should be upgraded to murder x 3. The totality of the circumstances show that he probably didn't just take a pain pill for his back and made a run to the store to pick up dinner. He knowingly shot up and decided to go for a drive. Let people be free until they harm someone else, and then throw the book at them. |
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