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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:58:31 AM EDT
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How many remember $99 Glock mags during the ban. But 50 round boxes of 9 was about $4 
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:00:35 AM EDT
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+87 to this idea.
The 94-2004 ban sucked. The Obama panic sucked but only in terms of prices. We are living in a golden age of cheap ammo, lowers, barrels and magazines, and quality and variety are amazing. Stock up. Get your 80%s. Buy privately. If we are unfortunate, we have about 700-odd days before a potential ban hits us, of pretty much everything. Hope I’m wrong. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:01:33 AM EDT
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20 round box in 2013. Need we say more.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/346339/4DB7F0CC-E271-4554-82BB-173553F7AE3A_jpeg-830768.JPG |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:02:15 AM EDT
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what really sucks is when a panic hits and you remember all the cheap shit you saw a year earlier, and are now kicking yourself because you didn't buy when you had the chance Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Op is right. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:04:47 AM EDT
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The restrictions on shipping ammo to Cali have limited the buying some... 
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:23:27 AM EDT
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thanks Captain Obvious. Ammo will never, ever be cheaper |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:57:07 AM EDT
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Thanks for the reminder OP. Just scooped up another 1K rds of M193 for .21 cents per round Where from, if I may ask? |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 4:24:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get over to natchezss. 9mm blazer brass for $169 with a $40 rebate if you get two cases(or something else to get over $300). Plus use active junky to get 2% cash back, so .137 a round shipped. Can’t beat that with a stick. That’s after the vista rebate as well. Can order up to 20 cases for the rebate. @taulce02 
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Posted: 2/3/2019 4:36:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryHawaii sucks. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 6:19:02 AM EDT
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Check this site daily for ammo deals
Gun-deals.com Txl |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 8:01:57 AM EDT
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I really started accumulating ammo back in 1987-88. I'm 65 now and don't think there's ANYWAY to shoot all my stash. I gave one of my 650s' to my son and will NEVER be able to load all my components. I'm buying lower parts kit and other replacement parts. I'm shooting a lot nowadays ,,more than ever actually. If I could just find some CHEAP .460 Rowland.
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Posted: 2/3/2019 8:13:52 AM EDT
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Stock up on ammo, sure, but of course it might be cheaper in the future. People have been saying ammo will never be cheaper for the last two years, and the price keeps going down.
As for guns, grandfathering as a concept is dead. If you're worried about future bans you just need one fighting AR with a suppressor and NV, and a backup, and training so you know what you're doing with it. We're just in different times than the 94 ban. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 8:20:36 AM EDT
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Stock up on ammo, sure, but of course it might be cheaper in the future. People have been saying ammo will never be cheaper for the last two years, and the price keeps going down. As for guns, grandfathering as a concept is dead. If you're worried about future bans you just need one fighting AR with a suppressor and NV, and a backup, and training so you know what you're doing with it. We're just in different times than the 94 ban. I don't think national forfeiture or confiscation will be on the table for a while, but I could very well be wrong. It's downright criminal that the SC isn't stepping in and squashing these state and local things post-haste. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 8:55:17 AM EDT
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I just did an audit and feel ok for the near future.
I really just need to replace what I shoot the most. 9mm, .38, .45s. I should have enough spare 556/223 for competitions this year without dipping below 10k but should get another case of cheap ammo just in case. And I need powder/bullets/primers for .38s. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 8:57:06 AM EDT
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I should probably buy some PMAGS to sell when people start panic buying again. Does anyone remember the days when they sold for $70-100 each?
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Posted: 2/3/2019 8:58:26 AM EDT
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As for guns, grandfathering as a concept is dead. If you're worried about future bans you just need one fighting AR with a suppressor and NV, and a backup, and training so you know what you're doing with it. We're just in different times than the 94 ban. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 9:07:52 AM EDT
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And store it out of sight so you forget how much you have. That always keeps me buying more.
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Posted: 2/3/2019 9:10:18 AM EDT
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Newbies especially, but there are plenty of gun veterans who have little to no ammo on hand. Many of you guys were not old enough to buy guns in 2012/2013, and during the other cluster fuck gun panics, so you have no clue what that bullshit is like. I can promise you it sucks when you head to the gun shop / Walmart / online and you cant find a box of .22LR to save your life. The same goes when the cheapest ar-15 you can find is $1500 bucks, and 30 rd p-mags are $50.00. Every store is flush with cheap easy to find ammo, cheap mags and cheap guns, and gun parts. you better be stocking up, and I don't just mean on guns, guns need ammo and spare parts. Get off your ass and start buying ammo. The 2020 election is not far away and you want to be sitting pretty when that bastard gets here. start stocking up. ( yes, be active as well and politic, contribute to progun orgs etc, but none of that will help you in a tard driven panic. ) Well said indeed! |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 9:13:14 AM EDT
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I hope people heed this advice. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 9:13:41 AM EDT
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My UPS guy hated me back in the day when 70k rounds of ammunition showed up at the door in one delivery.
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Posted: 2/3/2019 9:24:06 AM EDT
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I was just explaining this to a number of friends yesterday. I figure there process will last maybe another month or two at most.
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Posted: 2/3/2019 9:38:55 AM EDT
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Lived through every ban and panic since I turned 18 in 1982. OP is correct.
How many crazy things that Cali starts also spread to the rest of the country? Remember when you could buy a good gas can in America? Not anymore all because of CARB. They will follow California when it comes to shipping ammo,then expand to the tax section. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 9:46:02 AM EDT
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Stock up on ammo, sure, but of course it might be cheaper in the future. People have been saying ammo will never be cheaper for the last two years, and the price keeps going down. As for guns, grandfathering as a concept is dead. If you're worried about future bans you just need one fighting AR with a suppressor and NV, and a backup, and training so you know what you're doing with it. We're just in different times than the 94 ban. I've been playing the firearms game for many years now, have had the opportunity to build up a large ammo fort, gone through firearms buying streaks collecting all the latest and greatest, lived through the legal games our 'masters' play and have come to the conclusion that quality is everything. For the newer folks, get the highest quality AR you can afford and stay away from running down the 'tacti-cool' rabbit hole; make ammo, and as @whoanelly posted, the training to use your weapons effectively the first priority; OP is right, the time is now... |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 9:47:09 AM EDT
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I've been here since 2001, I've seen it happen a couple of times now.
You're not wrong, buy as much as you can during these times. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 9:58:49 AM EDT
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I got into guns in 2011. Your warning is well received.
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Posted: 2/3/2019 10:13:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what really sucks is when a panic hits and you remember all the cheap shit you saw a year earlier, and are now kicking yourself because you didn't buy when you had the chance |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 10:23:48 AM EDT
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Where can I get a box for that cheap? Hawaii sucks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Where can I get a box for that cheap? Hawaii sucks. 
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Posted: 2/3/2019 10:28:24 AM EDT
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Exactly this. That grandfathering written in to the '94 ban won't happen the next time. Quality over quantity in your firearms; I've got another 4 AR range toys slated for removal from the collection, those funds will be rolled in to more ammo, magazines, and spare parts. My two primary 'social' AR's have exact duplicate backup's, the same for my primary carry handguns. Ammo, magazines, and spare parts are your bottleneck, focus on them; I'd rather one AR with a backup and a metric ton of ammo than a safe full of AR's that I can't feed for the long term. I've been playing the firearms game for many years now, have had the opportunity to build up a large ammo fort, gone through firearms buying streaks collecting all the latest and greatest, lived through the legal games our 'masters' play and have come to the conclusion that quality is everything. For the newer folks, get the highest quality AR you can afford and stay away from running down the 'tacti-cool' rabbit hole; make ammo, and as @whoanelly posted, the training to use your weapons effectively the first priority; OP is right, the time is now... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stock up on ammo, sure, but of course it might be cheaper in the future. People have been saying ammo will never be cheaper for the last two years, and the price keeps going down. As for guns, grandfathering as a concept is dead. If you're worried about future bans you just need one fighting AR with a suppressor and NV, and a backup, and training so you know what you're doing with it. We're just in different times than the 94 ban. I've been playing the firearms game for many years now, have had the opportunity to build up a large ammo fort, gone through firearms buying streaks collecting all the latest and greatest, lived through the legal games our 'masters' play and have come to the conclusion that quality is everything. For the newer folks, get the highest quality AR you can afford and stay away from running down the 'tacti-cool' rabbit hole; make ammo, and as @whoanelly posted, the training to use your weapons effectively the first priority; OP is right, the time is now... |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 10:37:12 AM EDT
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also, you don't need to blow $1000 bucks at a time, or buy 1000 rounds at a time to get a ammo fort. I built my ammo fort by buying a few boxes of ammo at a time. the trick is when you want to go shooting, stop and buy ammo to shoot, shoot 1/2 of what you buy and stock pile the rest. once you take ammo home, you don't shoot it, you stick it in a ammo can and save it. before you know it you have a pick up truck load of ammo. My score for this month was 3 bricks of 550 bulk .22LR from Walmart. even a little bit adds up quickly though. iv got around 25,000 rounds of .22LR in my fort by doing this. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 10:37:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All of the proposed federal bans have grandfather clauses in them, even the big one. They do ban all high cap mags, and spare parts though, and I'd bet good money a ammo restriction of some kind would come soon after. A ammo tax, limit you can buy per month, o mail order etc. I agree ammo is the weak link. They already have lots of firearm taxes that are unconstitutional , adding a big ammo tax to pay shooting victims is not hard to imagine. Their battle tactics have changed, but the song remains the same... |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 10:41:17 AM EDT
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I'm pretty well stocked up but I could use more powder/primers. I've been complacent and just picking it up at the local shops as I use it. I really need to shore up on 6.5 bullets...
I think no matter what happens leading up to the elections it will be chaotic politically. I see it as one of the most important choices this nation will ever make. Gun panic is sure to result. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 10:44:16 AM EDT
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Who buys ammo locally anymore? Honestly, almost no matter how much ammo you have, once you learn it is out of stock, people are going to want more. It's some kind of psychology. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 10:52:21 AM EDT
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Lots of good advice here. I just talked to my parents yesterday at the range about this. Next year is 2020, they were shocked that yes, it is already here.
I graduated high school right before the 94 ban expired and every run on components and weapons since. In 2015 there was a theatre shooting, background checks in CO were timed on a calendar rather than a watch. I have went 2 years without needing to buy reloading components, but I have. Ask yourself have we seen the last panic? Waking up to "Breaking News" is not the time to start buying, it's the time to go hug your tacbox full of powder and primers... |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:03:17 AM EDT
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Thats pretty good. Where from, if I may ask? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks for the reminder OP. Just scooped up another 1K rds of M193 for .21 cents per round Where from, if I may ask? https://palmettostatearmory.com/american-eagle-5-56mm-fmjbt-ammunition-1000rds-ten-10-magpul-pmag-30-5-56x45mm-magazines.html They also have the same deal on XM855: https://palmettostatearmory.com/1000-rds-american-eagle-5-56mm-fmj-steel-core-ammo-ten-magpul-pmag-30-5-56x45mm-magazines.html |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:05:11 AM EDT
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25k of 22lr are rookie numbers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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also, you don't need to blow $1000 bucks at a time, or buy 1000 rounds at a time to get a ammo fort. I built my ammo fort by buying a few boxes of ammo at a time. the trick is when you want to go shooting, stop and buy ammo to shoot, shoot 1/2 of what you buy and stock pile the rest. once you take ammo home, you don't shoot it, you stick it in a ammo can and save it. before you know it you have a pick up truck load of ammo. My score for this month was 3 bricks of 550 bulk .22LR from Walmart. even a little bit adds up quickly though. iv got around 25,000 rounds of .22LR in my fort by doing this.
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:08:54 AM EDT
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I am already seeing Pmags disappearing from retail in Wa. state and I saw this coming years ago.
I also have been buying what I can, when I can do it, and I've been doing this for years now. AR parts and accessories are being targeted as well as ammo. I remember quite well the "frenzy" and watching all this stuff disappear and prices double for common items. I've seen guys run as the doors open, just to grab a box of 5.56" and it is no joke. "buy it cheap and stack it deep" these are good days, buy anything that you can afford and put it away. In a matter of a few weeks, things can and will change. If the door closes tomorrow, there are many people who have done well and should be well stocked with adequate stock for a long haul, even retirement. I wish everyone good luck, go out and start shopping. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:09:50 AM EDT
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Who buys ammo locally anymore? OP, good thread. I’m pretty well covered on most things outside of NV and suppressors but could always use more mags. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:15:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If .22lr was my main caliber I'd have much more of it. 
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:59:48 AM EDT
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OP is right but the army don't pay me enough and my parents are gonna start charging me rent since i have to keep my fort at their place
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:01:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:03:15 PM EDT
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One of the nice things about .22LR is you can stock a huge amount in a smaller footprint. I keep quite a bit of .22 around, 50K+ for my .22 pistols and as a back up supply for my AR conversion units; if it ever were to one day reach the point I've burned through ALL my 5.56 I've still got the conversion units and all that .22 available... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:04:56 PM EDT
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How many remember $99 Glock mags during the ban. But 50 round boxes of 9 was about $4 Oh yeah, I 'member. 
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:05:04 PM EDT
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March 13, 2013. 2 box limit. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/326845/image_jpeg-831108.JPG The reason I took a picture was because this was the best price to be found anywhere. Sent it at that time to some friends to gloat. Most of the time it was 12.99 and unavailable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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20 round box in 2013. Need we say more.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/346339/4DB7F0CC-E271-4554-82BB-173553F7AE3A_jpeg-830768.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/326845/image_jpeg-831108.JPG The reason I took a picture was because this was the best price to be found anywhere. Sent it at that time to some friends to gloat. Most of the time it was 12.99 and unavailable. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:07:44 PM EDT
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I’ve only bought two guns this year. Need to up my game. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:14:15 PM EDT
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Use an address in Arizona Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The restrictions on shipping ammo to Cali have limited the buying some... |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:15:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. I think a single fat 50 ammo can will hold around 7500 rounds of .22 bulk pack. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:16:13 PM EDT
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My UPS guy hated me back in the day when 70k rounds of ammunition showed up at the door in one delivery.  ...
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:51:03 PM EDT
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Op is right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Op is right. There is an entire new generation of gun owners post-2015, plus, amazingly, some post-2004 owners who didn't figure things out yet, who own like 4 AR's, 4 Pmags, 2 off-brand POS 30-rounders, and 327 rounds of Tula. But hey, gotta blow $300 a month on smokes and beer. 
This is the topic which separates people that are serious from "hobbyists". We are in for some major unpleasantness on a national level long before many of us run out of parts and ammo; firearms isn't going to be the issue that sets things off unless the Dems are more retarded than usual, but there may well be a period of no-supply. The thing people need to focus on is maintaining their own capabilities and making sure that immediate family that aren't old enough to arm up yet are taken care of. Quoted:
Who buys ammo locally anymore? |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:59:03 PM EDT
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2 is 1 and 1 is none.
I haven't forgotten that I paid $14 per 100rds of 5.56 back in the 1980`s |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:59:11 PM EDT
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To drive OP's point to home, right now is the golden age of firearms.
Right now we have reached a nexus of technology, innovation, market competition, and relative freedom (unless you had a bump stock). Come to think of it even just imaging a bump stock would been a legal thing 20 years ago would have been a fairy tail. I would be pricing out shelving units first, and then figuring out how to maximize your storage capacity before taking this opportunity of a lifetime to stock up. Ammo, mags and guns... yes those are obvious but don't forget PARTS! Buy spare BCG's and LPK's and make sure you have spring sets for every gun you own. Those small parts are usually cheap and one day may be the difference between a hunk of useless metal and a working firearm. BUY IT CHEAP, STACK IT DEEP. rinse and repeat. |
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