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Posted: 12/9/2003 11:13:22 AM EDT
Forget that screwed up BCS BS, Wanna see a real college football national championship game?

North Dakota State vs. Grand Valley State for the NCAA Divison II National Championship this coming Saturday 12/13 in Florence Alabama, on ESPN @ 4 PM.

Grand Valley State Univ.(Michigan) is the reigning Division II champs and this is the third year in a row they've gone to the championship game. They beat Valdosta last year but lost to North Dakota in 2001.

Darn good ass kicking football!
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 11:16:33 AM EDT
Clemson-Tennesee Peachbowl baby!
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 11:23:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By monkeyman: Forget that screwed up BCS BS, Wanna see a real college football national championship game? North Dakota State vs. Grand Valley State for the NCAA Divison II National Championship this coming Saturday 12/13 in Florence Alabama, on ESPN @ 4 PM. Grand Valley State Univ.(Michigan) is the reigning Division II champs and this is the third year in a row they've gone to the championship game. They beat Valdosta last year but lost to North Dakota in 2001. Darn good ass kicking football!
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These teams had to win playoff games to advance to a true championship game. Each team will have played like 15 games, including the championship. If Division II football can do it, why can't Division I?
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 11:45:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By -Absolut-: Clemson-Tennesee Peachbowl baby!
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I with you there -Absolut-
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 12:20:58 PM EDT
OKLAHOMA VS LSU is the true Championship game. They are truely the two best teams in the Country. USC got the peoples vote because there are so damn many people in LA and Ca to vote for them. USC had a weak schedule and lost 1 game all year. OU and LSU had much tougher schedules and also lost 1 game each all year.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 12:27:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheCommissioner: These teams had to win playoff games to advance to a true championship game. Each team will have played like 15 games, including the championship. If Division II football can do it, why can't Division I?
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$$$, it's all about the Benjamins.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 12:31:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Maynard:
Originally Posted By TheCommissioner: These teams had to win playoff games to advance to a true championship game. Each team will have played like 15 games, including the championship. If Division II football can do it, why can't Division I?
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$$$, it's all about the Benjamins.
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More games, more money. The argument that a play-off season affects studies and class schedules is bullshit. Players at that level are athletes, not student-athletes during football season.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 12:53:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sum-rifle: OU and LSU had much tougher schedules and also lost 1 game each all year.
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OU had a tough schedule? Really? North Texas (37-3) at Alabama (20-13) Fresno State (52-28) UCLA (59-24) at Iowa State (53-7) at Texas (65-13) Missouri (34-13) at Colorado (34-20) Oklahoma State (52-9) Texas A&M (77-0) Baylor (41-3) at Texas Tech (56-25) and of course, Kansas State (7-35) OK, where is the tough part of the schedule? True, the 65-13 drubbing of Texas in Dallas was impressive, but c'mon. They did not play KSU or Nebraska during the regular season, and got to play 3 Big 12, Southern Conference games in a row at home. Hell, even Baylor put points on the board against OU. OU will play Nebraska and KSU the next two years though, once at home and once on the road, and they'll have to do it without Heisman pretender Jason White.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:09:15 PM EDT
OU had a tough schedule? Really?
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That's exactly what I've said all along. They spend most of their season playing cupcake teams and figuring out how to put a positive spin on it. UNT is their traditional season opener. A powerhouse it ain't (sorry, [b]TRG[/b]). A football team, supported by its overly-obsessed fans, or in OU's case, FANATICS, is a Division I school's biggest money maker. Controversy aside, there's no incentive for them to ever actively seek or support any type of playoff. The BCS bullshit has only made things worse.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:41:18 PM EDT
as much as i hate OU...i have to say they deserve to be where theyre at...and when you have the recruiting classes they have...i dont think they're too worried about playing neb. and ksu next year w/out jason white.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:44:55 PM EDT
North Texas is a team that OU gets to play every year, it's pretty much a free win.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:50:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheCommissioner:
Originally Posted By Maynard:
Originally Posted By TheCommissioner: These teams had to win playoff games to advance to a true championship game. Each team will have played like 15 games, including the championship. If Division II football can do it, why can't Division I?
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$$$, it's all about the Benjamins.
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More games, more money. The argument that a play-off season affects studies and class schedules is bullshit. Players at that level are athletes, not student-athletes during football season.
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There would be lost revenue in losing the "Name" bowls like the Tostito's Bowl with a transition to a playoff system. Someone has to be making an assload of cash to keep this bullshit system in place when every other NCAA sport, to the best of my knowledge, has a playoff system in place. The only other difference is the Bowls and their sponsors and the $$$ it generates in name placement and sponsorship. As always, follow the $$$. I'm wondering what would happen to the minor bowls if a playoff system is implemented.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:51:02 PM EDT
P.S. DAMN Grand Valley State....i'm an A&M Kingsville fan....bastards [;)]
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:53:34 PM EDT
I'm wondering what would happen to the minor bowls if a playoff system is implemented.
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They would either get shit canned or stay the meaningless exhibition games they are today. The LAS VEGAS bowl for gosh sakes?? It's a joke, the Rebels beat Arkansas in the Vegas bowl a few years ago but nobody really cares anyway.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 4:00:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheCommissioner: More games, more money. The argument that a play-off season affects studies and class schedules is bullshit. Players at that level are athletes, not student-athletes during football season.
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There are an awful lot of players on any team that need to study and get a degree because they know that there is little to no chance in hell that they are going to be playig professional ball.
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