Forgotten Weapons: HK G11

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Posted: 12/25/2018 3:41:36 PM EDT

A Christmas present from Ian.

Kraut Space Magic: the H&K G11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGKcvM2Hh4g

Posted: 12/25/2018 3:47:42 PM EDT

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Just got done watching it.

Fascinating.

There are very few truly unique weapons in the world, and as far as I know that one completely erased the drawing board before they started.

Posted: 12/25/2018 3:51:20 PM EDT

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I shot the ever-lovin' hell out of that rifle in CoD: Black Ops I.

Posted: 12/25/2018 3:53:07 PM EDT

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Fascinating.

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The 3 round burst mechanism is pretty slick.

Posted: 12/25/2018 3:54:36 PM EDT

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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

It's finally here!

I must get a suitable companion drink.

Posted: 12/25/2018 3:55:41 PM EDT

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As someone in the comments said, it looks sci-fi on the outside, and steampunk on the inside.

Between this and Garand Thumb dropping a video review of the Hi Point C9 today, it's a good gun YouTube Christmas.

Posted: 12/25/2018 3:56:37 PM EDT

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When he pulled off the back I actually let out a "HA!"

Posted: 12/25/2018 4:01:02 PM EDT

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As someone in the comments said, it looks sci-fi on the outside, and steampunk on the inside.

Between this and Garand Thumb dropping a video review of the Hi Point C9 today, it's a good gun YouTube Christmas.

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InRange's subgun vid too

(Of to watch high point vid)

Posted: 12/25/2018 4:17:11 PM EDT

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Yep. It was a beast

It looks like a watch maker would be needed to repair it rather than a gunsmith

Posted: 12/25/2018 4:23:00 PM EDT

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Yep. It was a beast

It looks like a watch maker would be needed to repair it rather than a gunsmith

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Can you imagine if something like this was widely issued?

An armorers course would probably take a fortnight.

Loading and firing.

H&K G11/HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoTU-X0qbnQ

Posted: 12/25/2018 4:23:39 PM EDT

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It looks like a watch maker would be needed to repair it rather than a gunsmith

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Apparently, not even J. B. Dix could keep it going.

Posted: 12/25/2018 4:24:55 PM EDT

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I remember reading a Clive Cussler book when I was younger where the G11 was prominently featured. I've been fascinated with them ever since.

Posted: 12/25/2018 4:25:18 PM EDT

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I was super pissed when I got that gun and the three round burst didn't work the way it does on the real gun.

Posted: 12/25/2018 4:28:48 PM EDT

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Really cool video and a great idea for a rifle.

I can only imagine how that complicated mechanism would work after being dropped in the mud, or how that flimsy wind up charging handle would hold up after being issued to a platoon of Marines for a week or so.

Still a really interesting gun. I’m not so sure how it would’ve fared in the real world though.

Posted: 12/25/2018 4:29:24 PM EDT

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As an armorer, i'm gonna have nightmares over those internals

Posted: 12/25/2018 4:30:03 PM EDT

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"I can only imagine how that complicated mechanism would work after being dropped in the mud, or how that flimsy wind up charging handle would hold up after being issued to a platoon of Marines for a week or so."

Yeah, that flappy thing doesn't look like it would last long.

Posted: 12/25/2018 5:05:09 PM EDT

[#16]

Does the ammo for it even exist anymore?

Posted: 12/25/2018 5:14:12 PM EDT

[#17]

was awesome in fallout 2!

Posted: 12/25/2018 5:57:54 PM EDT

[#18]

Both videos were fantastic! Thanks for posting them.

In the late 70s through the 80s Guns and Ammo magazine would run articles on it that always kept me fascinated. Or was great to see Ian's video and the see it firing.

Posted: 12/25/2018 6:03:31 PM EDT

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What are you, 12? I was shooting the G11 in Delta Force: Land Warrior

Posted: 12/25/2018 6:05:29 PM EDT

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Doubt it.

I would like a single round for collector purposes. Wouldn't even know where to look.

Old Western Scrounger?

Posted: 12/25/2018 6:08:04 PM EDT

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Doubt it.

I would like a single round for collector purposes. Wouldn't even know where to look.

Old Western Scrounger?

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Does the ammo for it even exist anymore?

Doubt it.

I would like a single round for collector purposes. Wouldn't even know where to look.

Old Western Scrounger?

It's pricey

Also, ammo-one.com

Posted: 12/25/2018 6:09:04 PM EDT

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It's pricey

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Eep.

I'll pay $30 or so, but not that much.

Posted: 12/25/2018 6:27:12 PM EDT

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I just got to that part and said WTF out loud

Posted: 12/25/2018 7:06:48 PM EDT

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at the demonstration action being engraved "Jim's Toy" on the barrel blank, around 23:30.

Kharn

Posted: 12/25/2018 7:15:40 PM EDT

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Really cool video and a great idea for a rifle.

I can only imagine how that complicated mechanism would work after being dropped in the mud, or how that flimsy wind up charging handle would hold up after being issued to a platoon of Marines for a week or so.

Still a really interesting gun. I’m not so sure how it would’ve fared in the real world though.

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Rifle was well sealed up. Any rifle will fail if mud significantly gets into the action and trigger group.

Posted: 12/25/2018 7:43:26 PM EDT

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I'm not too proud to admit that I'm a 52 year-old, Johnny-come-lately convert to video games.

Posted: 12/25/2018 8:00:45 PM EDT

[#27]

Great video, always wondered exactly how that thing worked. I like the magazine idea, just carry them on the rifle and carry plastic reloads in your pouches....very quick reloading process.

Posted: 12/25/2018 8:22:05 PM EDT

[#28]

Very cool video with its history, and especially the demonstration of how the action works.

The 2nd video of it firing, looks like a significant amount of recoil with the whole mass of the action and barrel reciprocating.

Posted: 12/25/2018 8:40:52 PM EDT

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What are you, 12? I was shooting the G11 in Delta Force: Land Warrior

I'm not too proud to admit that I'm a 52 year-old, Johnny-come-lately convert to video games.

I'll allow it

Posted: 12/25/2018 8:46:44 PM EDT

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Caseless ammo overheats any weapon. brass cases act like a heat sink.

Posted: 12/25/2018 9:03:37 PM EDT

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I shot the ever-lovin' hell out of that rifle in CoD: Black Ops I.

What are you, 12? I was shooting the G11 in Delta Force: Land Warrior

Loved that game

Posted: 12/25/2018 9:04:33 PM EDT

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Very cool video with its history, and especially the demonstration of how the action works.

The 2nd video of it firing, looks like a significant amount of recoil with the whole mass of the action and barrel reciprocating.

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Every video of it firing on burst I’ve seen has the soldier looking like they just shot a turkey load.

Posted: 12/25/2018 9:19:39 PM EDT

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Can you imagine if something like this was widely issued?

An armorers course would probably take a fortnight.

Loading and firing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoTU-X0qbnQ

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Watching that video it shoots and handles about as ugly as its physical appearance would indicate.

Posted: 12/25/2018 9:24:38 PM EDT

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Here's some 3 round burst action on video...note that the recoil looks like what you'd get if you handed a tiny female a 12 gauge loaded with 3" magnums:

Heckler & Koch G11 Assault Rifle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_didDgUjn0

Posted: 12/25/2018 9:32:13 PM EDT

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The recoil from a 3 rd burst, l imagine, would be "stronger" since out has the energy of three rounds.

But the rest of that video looks like people who've never shoot a gun in they're lives.

Posted: 12/25/2018 10:19:46 PM EDT

[#36]

Impressive how close they came to fielding that weapon.

Posted: 12/26/2018 12:16:41 AM EDT

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I didn't realize that either. I thought it was just a prototype.

Posted: 12/26/2018 12:20:05 AM EDT

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They still should.

Posted: 12/26/2018 12:42:51 AM EDT

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They still should.

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Except Germany is broke. A lot of their Leopard tanks aren't runners. A lot of ground aircraft.

Posted: 12/26/2018 12:44:09 AM EDT

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I've got better concepts drawn on scrap paper

Posted: 12/26/2018 12:48:43 AM EDT

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Except Germany is broke. A lot of their Leopard tanks aren't runners. A lot of ground aircraft.

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Someone should make a meme.

What they wanted.

G11s.

A unified and harmonious Germany and Europe.

What they got.

Oh there's a few things that could fill this image. Merkel is the most obvious one. Perhaps a headline about how stabbings in Germany are up 900%

Posted: 12/26/2018 2:44:24 AM EDT

[#42]

German engineering is insane.

Posted: 12/26/2018 2:46:58 AM EDT

[#43]

I enjoyed the video, thanks OP.

Posted: 12/26/2018 2:56:33 AM EDT

[#44]

Caseless ammo is a cool concept. Not sure it could ever overtake the currently used tech, but I would like to see it developed more than it has. Seems like they gave up on it and that was the end.

Posted: 12/26/2018 2:56:42 AM EDT

[#45]

Fascinating design.

Posted: 12/26/2018 3:07:19 AM EDT

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Well, the Germans fielded the G36 for 20+ years before they found out it didn't work, so...

Posted: 12/26/2018 3:10:35 AM EDT

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Wow, great watch.

Always knew "of" the G11

Didnt know exactly how it worked, or that they ordered it adopted by the Bundeswehr

Posted: 12/26/2018 3:13:32 AM EDT

[#48]

I had no idea they were so rube goldberg inside.

I always assumed it ran on electrical power or something which is why it was only ever a prototype.

Posted: 12/26/2018 3:20:10 AM EDT

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I had no idea they were so rube goldberg inside.

I always assumed it ran on electrical power or something which is why it was only ever a prototype.

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I don't know, peacetime weapons are always complex. Ian had a Thompson video that showed the first Thompsons had 33% more parts than it really needed, and that was just for the 1928 drvelopment.

Posted: 12/26/2018 3:50:50 AM EDT

[#50]

Good grief what a convoluted mess that could only be dreamt up by Germans. Never saw one broken down until now.

Neat video.

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