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Link Posted: 10/16/2019 3:44:15 PM EDT
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Dose Mach diamonds, man!
Link Posted: 10/16/2019 6:33:56 PM EDT
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Beautiful Sight!
Thanks!
Link Posted: 10/16/2019 7:38:22 PM EDT
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official render:

Link Posted: 10/17/2019 4:44:42 PM EDT
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Yeah, the official production model is gonna be a sexy beast for sure.
Link Posted: 10/17/2019 4:46:02 PM EDT
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37 Raptor engines?

Link Posted: 10/17/2019 7:06:46 PM EDT
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Yeah, the official production model is gonna be a sexy beast for sure.
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They need to quit making such big changes, cause the non-official model builders are getting tired of trying to keep up with them.  
Link Posted: 10/17/2019 8:50:16 PM EDT
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37 Raptor engines?

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One huge raptor engine would be more impressive.
Link Posted: 10/18/2019 12:35:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/18/2019 7:19:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:

Then you'd be a fan of Sea Dragon.

Fuck efficiency, Kerosene and LOX is good enough. Build it like a battleship and just keep adding fuel until it flies.
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You can't grab Kerosene out of the Moon or Mars though.
Link Posted: 10/18/2019 7:23:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:
Then you'd be a fan of Sea Dragon.

Fuck efficiency, Kerosene and LOX is good enough. Build it like a battleship and just keep adding fuel until it flies.
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb:

One huge raptor engine would be more impressive.
Then you'd be a fan of Sea Dragon.

Fuck efficiency, Kerosene and LOX is good enough. Build it like a battleship and just keep adding fuel until it flies.
Single engine wouldn't be able to throttle down enough to return and land.
Link Posted: 10/18/2019 8:15:03 PM EDT
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I don’t know WTF that’s all about, but I grok their naming conventions.
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:
In other new space news, Firefly is progressing well into the Reaver engine testing campaign.  They have 4 engines on the test stand and are working towards static firing a complete first stage.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86377/4517994B-9A16-4141-8C21-815443BE6D99_jpeg-1109788.JPG
I don’t know WTF that’s all about, but I grok their naming conventions.
Fuckin' rocks.
Link Posted: 10/18/2019 8:17:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigPony:

You can't grab Kerosene out of the Moon or Mars though.
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well... not easily... but the component parts exist in both places.  So long as the necessary elements are there, chemistry can be done to assemble them.

The question is not... Can we?  but what is the most Cost Effective thing to do?
Link Posted: 10/18/2019 9:46:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:
Then you'd be a fan of Sea Dragon.

Fuck efficiency, Kerosene and LOX is good enough. Build it like a battleship and just keep adding fuel until it flies.
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb:

One huge raptor engine would be more impressive.
Then you'd be a fan of Sea Dragon.

Fuck efficiency, Kerosene and LOX is good enough. Build it like a battleship and just keep adding fuel until it flies.
That's what I'm talkin' bout

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Link Posted: 10/18/2019 9:57:25 PM EDT
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SpaceX’s fourth Starship prototype has begun to take shape in Florida

"SpaceX’s Florida Starship team appears to have taken the first step towards assembling Starship Mk4, the fourth full-scale prototype of the next-generation spaceship.

Although SpaceX’s Boca Chica, Texas Starship campus is undeniably in the lead with their first prototype, Starship Mk1, it appears that the company’s Florida campus is far ahead of Texas with their second Starship prototype."
Link Posted: 10/19/2019 9:42:16 PM EDT
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https://www.krgv.com/videos/cameron-co-addresses-boca-chica-eminent-domain-concerns/

Cameron Co. Addresses Boca Chica Eminent Domain Concerns

NEAR BROWNSVILLE - The possibility of eminent domain is still on the minds of Boca Chica homeowners near the SpaceX facility.

As CHANNEL 5 NEWS reported, some homeowners who live right next to SpaceX and Stargate have not accepted the appraised offer for their home.

We spoke with Cameron County Judge Eddie Trevino Jr. Over the who tells us there are no plans to take properties away by SpaceX or the Cameron County Space Port Development Corporation.

We reported earlier, the Cameron County Space Port Authority does have eminent domain authority.

Trevino adds SpaceX has not reached out to them either.

The new deadline whether or not to accept the buyout offer  is next Friday, Oct. 25.

For more information watch the video above. (in link)
Link Posted: 10/19/2019 9:47:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://www.krgv.com/videos/cameron-co-addresses-boca-chica-eminent-domain-concerns/

Cameron Co. Addresses Boca Chica Eminent Domain Concerns

NEAR BROWNSVILLE - The possibility of eminent domain is still on the minds of Boca Chica homeowners near the SpaceX facility.

As CHANNEL 5 NEWS reported, some homeowners who live right next to SpaceX and Stargate have not accepted the appraised offer for their home.

We spoke with Cameron County Judge Eddie Trevino Jr. Over the who tells us there are no plans to take properties away by SpaceX or the Cameron County Space Port Development Corporation.

We reported earlier, the Cameron County Space Port Authority does have eminent domain authority.

Trevino adds SpaceX has not reached out to them either.

The new deadline whether or not to accept the buyout offer  is next Friday, Oct. 25.

For more information watch the video above. (in link)
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If eminent domain isn’t being threatened, why is there a “deadline”?
Link Posted: 10/19/2019 10:08:18 PM EDT
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They are really not going to want to stay there anyways long term. Elon has stated within 10 years they will be launching 3 starships a day from the Boca SpacePort. How could you stand that much noise 3 times a day?

I heard they were offered 3x property value.
Link Posted: 10/19/2019 10:16:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigPony:
They are really not going to want to stay there anyways long term. Elon has stated within 10 years they will be launching 3 starships a day from the Boca SpacePort. How could you stand that much noise 3 times a day?

I heard they were offered 3x property value.
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The first time SpaceX launches a super heavy and all their windows bust out, they'll be running to sell.
Link Posted: 10/19/2019 10:45:11 PM EDT
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meh.

Don't want to leave the "area"?

Take the deal.
Buy land a little further away.
Build another house.

You're still in the area and probably several thousand dollars ahead... without any mortgage to worry about anymore.
Link Posted: 10/19/2019 11:09:30 PM EDT
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The first time SpaceX launches a super heavy and all their windows bust out, they'll be running to sell.
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Originally Posted By BigPony:
They are really not going to want to stay there anyways long term. Elon has stated within 10 years they will be launching 3 starships a day from the Boca SpacePort. How could you stand that much noise 3 times a day?

I heard they were offered 3x property value.
The first time SpaceX launches a super heavy and all their windows bust out, they'll be running to sell.
Or the next time something blows up and a hypers cloud engulfs their homes.
Link Posted: 10/20/2019 10:12:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By webtaz99:
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Indeed. Plus try to sleep through the noise of a launch - or landing lol.
Link Posted: 10/23/2019 12:44:57 AM EDT
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Over the last ten days the SpaceX got me and I swallowed the hook. Been binging videos for a week straight.

Where are we on testing starship or super heavvy? I need progress!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/23/2019 7:51:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/23/2019 7:18:24 PM EDT
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Sunday at the Mars Society Annual Conference, Paul Wooster od SpaceX said Mk1 will be completed and moved to the pad for static tests within a couple weeks, and at the International Astronautical Society (going on right now in DC) The SpaceX President, Gwynne Shotwell, said it will launch within 2 months.

Also of note, as soon as Mk1 heads to the pad, they begin construction of Mk3 in Boca which includes the new single seem stainless construction technique, so we get to watch it all over again ;) Also in Florida, right around the time Mk1 launches, Mk2  moves to the pad for its static testing period at KSC and Mk4 begins construction.  The goal is to "try" earth orbit within 6 months, but certainly within the year. Then in 2022 they will actually launch a production model of Starship to the moon with supplies awaiting the anticipated 2024 manned landing on the moon of Starship, and in 2023 they fly the Japanese businessman and the group he is inviting around the moon and back and if that all goes well they are sending a crew to land on the moon in 2024.

In other spaceX news, more Starlink launches should go up before the end of the year, and Crew Dragon should have it's testing about wrapped up around the end of the year and be ready to launch its first crew to the ISS 1st quarter of 2021.

So very busy times over at SpaceX. Over the next 12 months they are going to have a lot of launches going up.

We are truly entering the golden times of space flight.
Link Posted: 10/23/2019 7:28:27 PM EDT
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Hopefully they will get some starlinks launched soon. Seems like it is going to be a little bit before a starship gets tested but I could be wrong.
Link Posted: 10/23/2019 7:58:03 PM EDT
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Hopefully they will get some starlinks launched soon. Seems like it is going to be a little bit before a starship gets tested but I could be wrong.
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Yeah.. within a couple months before Starship actually launches, but it is going to take them 24 launches to get all their Starlinks up and they will all be done by the end of 2020, so expect them to come frequently lol
Link Posted: 10/24/2019 7:30:48 PM EDT
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SpaceX says Starship Mk1 will test ‘skydiver’ landing before the end of 2019

"A senior SpaceX director says that the Starship Mk1 prototype could lift off for the first time before the end of 2019, a flight debut SpaceX hopes will successfully demonstrate the next-generation spacecraft’s exotic ‘skydiver’ landing method."

Landing animation here
Link Posted: 10/24/2019 10:05:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigPony:
Sunday at the Mars Society Annual Conference, Paul Wooster od SpaceX said Mk1 will be completed and moved to the pad for static tests within a couple weeks, and at the International Astronautical Society (going on right now in DC) The SpaceX President, Gwynne Shotwell, said it will launch within 2 months.

Also of note, as soon as Mk1 heads to the pad, they begin construction of Mk3 in Boca which includes the new single seem stainless construction technique, so we get to watch it all over again ;) Also in Florida, right around the time Mk1 launches, Mk2  moves to the pad for its static testing period at KSC and Mk4 begins construction.  The goal is to "try" earth orbit within 6 months, but certainly within the year. Then in 2022 they will actually launch a production model of Starship to the moon with supplies awaiting the anticipated 2024 manned landing on the moon of Starship, and in 2023 they fly the Japanese businessman and the group he is inviting around the moon and back and if that all goes well they are sending a crew to land on the moon in 2024.

In other spaceX news, more Starlink launches should go up before the end of the year, and Crew Dragon should have it's testing about wrapped up around the end of the year and be ready to launch its first crew to the ISS 1st quarter of 2021.

So very busy times over at SpaceX. Over the next 12 months they are going to have a lot of launches going up.

We are truly entering the golden times of space flight.
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Nothing will ever match the late '50s through the '60s.
Link Posted: 10/24/2019 11:11:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb:

Nothing will ever match the late '50s through the '60s.
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Moon AND Mars within a decade )and personnel staying at the moon) will make the 50's -60's and even into the 70's seem like Cro Magnon times.
Link Posted: 10/24/2019 11:22:09 PM EDT
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Moon AND Mars within a decade )and personnel staying at the moon) will make the 50's -60's and even into the 70's seem like Cro Magnon times.
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb:

Nothing will ever match the late '50s through the '60s.
Moon AND Mars within a decade )and personnel staying at the moon) will make the 50's -60's and even into the 70's seem like Cro Magnon times.


We went from prop powered frontline fighters in 1945 to the moon in 1969, plus the X-15, SR-71, etc etc etc. The boring ass shit we do these days is downright pathetic in comparison. Mars eh? Only 60 years after the first moon landing.
Link Posted: 10/24/2019 11:26:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigPony:
Moon AND Mars within a decade )and personnel staying at the moon) will make the 50's -60's and even into the 70's seem like Cro Magnon times.
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Originally Posted By BigPony:
Originally Posted By wtfboombrb:

Nothing will ever match the late '50s through the '60s.
Moon AND Mars within a decade )and personnel staying at the moon) will make the 50's -60's and even into the 70's seem like Cro Magnon times.
Man walking on extraterrestrial bodies is old news.

The time span between the first orbit around the earth by an unmanned spacecraft to man walking on the moon was only 12 years. We would likely say that isn't possible if it had never happened.
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 1:26:00 AM EDT
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Going to Mars and setting up to have people stay makes everything else pale by comparison.
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 6:55:33 AM EDT
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SpaceX says Starship Mk1 will test ‘skydiver’ landing before the end of 2019

"A senior SpaceX director says that the Starship Mk1 prototype could lift off for the first time before the end of 2019, a flight debut SpaceX hopes will successfully demonstrate the next-generation spacecraft’s exotic ‘skydiver’ landing method."

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That will be a hell of a ride.
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 7:29:57 AM EDT
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Should be moving to the pad around the end of the month for static testing
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 8:16:32 AM EDT
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We went from prop powered frontline fighters in 1945 to the moon in 1969, plus the X-15, SR-71, etc etc etc. The boring ass shit we do these days is downright pathetic in comparison. Mars eh? Only 60 years after the first moon landing.
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I agree with you, but it's still exciting. We need that first mover advantage now more than ever, because China is catching up. We can't have that.
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 1:19:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigPony:

Moon AND Mars within a decade )and personnel staying at the moon) will make the 50's -60's and even into the 70's seem like Cro Magnon times.
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Yeah, and then we will get all that great first hand experience of how living in those places will fuck biology good and hard. (Space station is fun and all, but....)… And we will get to learn how not-great our various recyc systems are. Yumm, last nights piss is this morning's yummy coffee. I'm not even gonna tell you what #2 is gonna be... Its gonna be great ...
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 9:39:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin:

Yeah, and then we will get all that great first hand experience of how living in those places will fuck biology good and hard. (Space station is fun and all, but....)… And we will get to learn how not-great our various recyc systems are. Yumm, last nights piss is this morning's yummy coffee. I'm not even gonna tell you what #2 is gonna be... Its gonna be great ...
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Mars has water. Lots of water. It is in frozen ice, but ice can be melted and made potable. Big difference from ISS

Also, lot of foods can grow in the martian soil they now know and 3d printed meat is a thing.

Not saying it will not be difficult, but it is not as bad in a lot of areas anymore. People who do not pay attention are just unaware.
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 9:49:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin:

Yeah, and then we will get all that great first hand experience of how living in those places will fuck biology good and hard. (Space station is fun and all, but....)… And we will get to learn how not-great our various recyc systems are. Yumm, last nights piss is this morning's yummy coffee. I'm not even gonna tell you what #2 is gonna be... Its gonna be great ...
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Soylent Walnut is people!
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 10:25:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2019 10:28:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
It won't be 60 years from Mars till Jupiter, more like 6.
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:



We went from prop powered frontline fighters in 1945 to the moon in 1969, plus the X-15, SR-71, etc etc etc. The boring ass shit we do these days is downright pathetic in comparison. Mars eh? Only 60 years after the first moon landing.
It won't be 60 years from Mars till Jupiter, more like 6.
WTF would we want with Jupiter? Death, cause that’s all that mess offers. Are you talking about Jupiter’s moons?
Link Posted: 10/25/2019 11:32:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/26/2019 1:14:39 AM EDT
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WTF would we want with Jupiter? Death, cause that’s all that mess offers. Are you talking about Jupiter’s moons?
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Yes. The Moons
Link Posted: 10/26/2019 4:41:52 PM EDT
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Man, I can't keep up with this shit. Bottom line, I live in Orlando...about when can I drive to Titusville to see one of these tests?
Link Posted: 10/26/2019 5:11:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By somaliskinnypirate:
Man, I can't keep up with this shit. Bottom line, I live in Orlando...about when can I drive to Titusville to see one of these tests?
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Probably starting early next year for their Florida prototypes.
Link Posted: 10/26/2019 5:23:40 PM EDT
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Probably starting early next year for their Florida prototypes.
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Works for me. Thanks
Link Posted: 10/26/2019 8:35:04 PM EDT
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Yeah mk1 goes first in Texas somewhere middleish to late Dec. Mk2 in Fla is about 1 month or so behind mk1 so middle January is a good guess for the Fl launch. They are also building mk4 in Fl. and that will be a 2-3 month after for launch.
Link Posted: 10/27/2019 9:37:15 PM EDT
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Soylent Walnut is people!
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nah, that's kibble.
Link Posted: 10/27/2019 9:38:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigPony:

Mars has water. Lots of water. It is in frozen ice, but ice can be melted and made potable. Big difference from ISS

Also, lot of foods can grow in the martian soil they now know and 3d printed meat is a thing.

Not saying it will not be difficult, but it is not as bad in a lot of areas anymore. People who do not pay attention are just unaware.
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Yes and no.

Mars doesn't have "soil", it has dirt, big difference. And no one knows if you can really grow much in it or not. I'm gonna guess you're bringing your own "soil" if you want to grow anything. Not counting our Maaaaatt Deeeaaammmon "documentary"

We will see on the whole water thing, I hope that's right at least.

Plus mars has radiation! Glorious radiation!
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