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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:36:34 AM EDT

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Outrageous

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:36:43 AM EDT

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Trump should just ignore it. What are they going to do?

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This

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:37:28 AM EDT

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lol

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:38:06 AM EDT

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Why does any one reporter from any network have guaranteed access to White House briefings?
If CNN wants to send another reporter, fine.
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They already have multiple reporters there and 50 hard passes.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:38:16 AM EDT

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Totally don't care.

Dirtbag democrat press lackeys make excellent pivot points for President Trump.

The media is so obsessed with auto-fellating themselves that they can't report anything anyway. Let them piss and moan about how THEY are the actual story while President Trump does shit.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:38:26 AM EDT

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Acosta got his press pass back at least temporarily
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/16/media/cnn-trump-lawsuit-hearing/index.html

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He wants them to kiss and make up?

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:38:29 AM EDT

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Give him his little pass back but just ignore him at press conferences. He's a troll.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:38:33 AM EDT

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Worcester V Georgia.

"Marshall (Supreme Court Justice) has made his ruling, now let him enforce it!" -President Jackson

Seems appropriate here

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:38:36 AM EDT

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Does this mean that they also cannot deny issuance of a press pass without due process? So anyone can get one?

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Yes.
Just show up, call yourself a reporter and get a day pass. Fill out a bunch of other paperwork to get a hard pass.

Because this touches on the Sherrill case in which someone was denied a pass and when they asked what was the reason, the reason given by the government was was "We don't have to tell you"

Figured that part would set GD on fire.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:38:43 AM EDT

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Exactly, the court has no enforcement power.

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They have US Marshall's and contempt power. If Trump says "fuck the courts I'm king" he's risking being impeached or removed from office as being incompetent.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:38:51 AM EDT

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Stop all pressers until Acosta due process is over. When he's kicked out again - restart

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:39:14 AM EDT

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Give him his little pass back but just ignore him at press conferences. He's a troll.

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Yup

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:39:23 AM EDT

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Due process how? Like he needs to have a hearing before they can throw him out?

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That works for me.

And as we can all see, the wheels of justice turn slowly.

Maybe schedule his hearing in six months or so?

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:40:37 AM EDT

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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:40:45 AM EDT

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Yet a judge has the power to flat out declare Acosta in contempt, without due process, for such behavior if it happened in his court.

Stupid judge. Kinda a rules for thee but not for me situation.

Trump needs to post rules for the press pool. Instant anyone breaks one they are ejected for the day. Happens more than once their permission to be there is reviewed.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:40:55 AM EDT

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No, not how that works. I don't give a fuck what a Communist judge says.

Press passes are a granted privilege, not a right, therefore a just has no say in "due process".

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:40:55 AM EDT

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Make him sit in the back of the bus and never call on him.

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Ignoring him would drive Acosta crazy

Trump could look over the room while choosing the next question and just wink at Acosta

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:41:05 AM EDT

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That works for me.

And as we can all see, the wheels of justice turn slowly.

Maybe schedule his hearing in six months or so?

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He already has his pass back, sitting on it doesn't help Trump. This is bizarre over reaching by the Court.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:41:16 AM EDT

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Being that he's a security threat for assaulting a female, SS can decide when and if he comes back.

Fuck these judges, nothing but political activists for the left.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:42:25 AM EDT

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Well....

Your right is to due process under law. So unless there's a law establishing how to get and lose a White House press pass, there is no due process for him to have a right to.

On the other hand...

Eric Holder claimed that he and Obama sitting in a secure room reviewing classified documents and deciding who gets droned and who doesn't satisfied due process because there was some sort of albeit secret process they were following. May be a good time to throw that one back in the liberals' faces. Using the Obama/Holder Doctrine, Trump may decide on his own, using a secret process, who gets their press pass revoked.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:42:32 AM EDT

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Ignoring him would drive Acosta crazy

Trump could look over the room while choosing the next question and just wink at Acosta

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Yup. So Acosta can sit there quietly or act out and keep getting thrown out by the guards. The judge painted himself into a corner.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:42:36 AM EDT

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He already has his pass back, sitting on it doesn't help Trump. This is bizarre over reaching by the Court.

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That works for me.

And as we can all see, the wheels of justice turn slowly.

Maybe schedule his hearing in six months or so?

He already has his pass back, sitting on it doesn't help Trump. This is bizarre over reaching by the Court.

Decision was based on case law.

But the judge did mention the inappropriate conduct by Acosta.

Now the White House gets to redo the rules on conduct on the press room

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:43:20 AM EDT

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Don't worry, Trump has many more options than CNN.

This is theater.

Politics is a team sport now. No one that doesn't already like/love your team will change side....so few it will be immaterial. Now, as we saw in the election, getting 100% of your team motivated is key. Almost all the theater at the end of the election was to stir up the laziest, least motivated voters...(that was who Ocasio-Cortez got motivated to vote for her)...maybe dead voters too..we know it happens. The caravan was theater.

We're two tribes

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:43:54 AM EDT

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How come im not surprised?

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The judiciary and legal system has long been out of control. If Acosta is entitled to a press pass why am I not? I'm just as much as a journalist as he is. They better build a massive coliseum to fit in all of the reporters that are going to sue for a press pass.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:44:16 AM EDT

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That judge can suck a dick. Trump should say as much.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:44:31 AM EDT

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Arfcom labors under the false assumption that "we have our judges" who wil just be stooges because Trump appointed them. Once you have a job for life you can do what you want

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So true on both accounts.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:44:34 AM EDT

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I was hoping for "my house my rules"..... got "bake the cake"

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:44:42 AM EDT

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Decision was based on case law.

But the judge did mention the inappropriate conduct by Acosta.

Now the White House gets to redo the rules on conduct on the press room

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What case is that?

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:44:54 AM EDT

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Yup. So Acosta can sit there quietly or act out and keep getting thrown out by the guards. The judge painted himself into a corner.

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Have two mics...

One that can be passed to other media personnel. If one of them should be a plant and turn to give Acosta the mic, turn off the receiver for the mic so Acosta's mic is dead.

He can hold onto it like a toddler with a toy.

Pass the mic again starting on the other side of the room from Acosta.

There are ways to send a message that even a retard will understand.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:44:54 AM EDT

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Did I read it right? This judge is a Trump appointee?

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:45:20 AM EDT

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Ignoring him would drive Acosta crazy

Trump could look over the room while choosing the next question and just wink at Acosta

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How do you ignore someone who stands up during a press conference and yells like a petulant child until someone listens? Acosta isn't going to sit there during a 1 hour long question and answer without being disruptive if not called on.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:45:45 AM EDT

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This is truly breathtaking. Not one single person has any right at all to enter the White House. How in the world is the argument "violating his free speech rights" even something valid? This is absolutely disgusting.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:45:53 AM EDT

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This is absolutely nuts.

If I were Trump I would stop all press conferences in the white house.

This is the judicial branch run amok.

Pat

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:46:03 AM EDT

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So they get to write a new policy that states a "No douchebag" rule.

Make sure the new policy mentions past behavior as part of the criteria, then pull his pass again.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:46:04 AM EDT

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Did I read it right? This judge is a Trump appointee?

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No way!?!?

Next you'll tell me that Rosenstein is a Trump appointee too.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:46:24 AM EDT

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Did I read it right? This judge is a Trump appointee?

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Yes.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:46:43 AM EDT

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How do you ignore someone who stands up during a press conference and yells like a petulant child until someone listens? Acosta isn't going to sit there during a 1 hour long question and answer without being disruptive if not called on.

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Ignoring him would drive Acosta crazy

Trump could look over the room while choosing the next question and just wink at Acosta

How do you ignore someone who stands up during a press conference and yells like a petulant child until someone listens? Acosta isn't going to sit there during a 1 hour long question and answer without being disruptive if not called on.

yeah, that's the plan exactly

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:46:43 AM EDT

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What case is that?

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Decision was based on case law.

But the judge did mention the inappropriate conduct by Acosta.

Now the White House gets to redo the rules on conduct on the press room

What case is that?

Sherrill case as I mentioned above.

Robert Sherrill v. H. Stuart Knight, Director, United States Secret Service, Etal., Appellants, 569 F.2d 124 (D.C. Cir. 1977)

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:46:59 AM EDT

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Acosta is going to crank the "insufferable douchebag" routine up to 11, isn't he?

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:47:18 AM EDT

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If your driver's license can be revoked by the state for reckless driving, as driving on government roads is a privilege....

Reckless driving equating to bad behavior in this case....

How can revoking a single reporter's press pass (a granted privilege) be in contravention to common practices?

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:47:59 AM EDT

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I agree with the judge. All Government action towards an individual or company should require fair and clear due process. It doesn’t matter whether subject is a building permit, press pass or a felony criminal charge.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:48:41 AM EDT

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I thought this was a good judge? Wasn't he supposed to be a ringer or something?

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Yea, ARF loves us some activist judges...as long as it our side doing the activatin'

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:48:49 AM EDT

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Simple. Stop having press conferences. Have a televised statement instead. If the press wants to ask questions they can get on whitehouse.gov like the rest of us peons.

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This is the right answer.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:49:23 AM EDT

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Trump should just ignore it. What are they going to do?

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Do it.

Works just fine for the Lefties, should work for us as well.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:49:24 AM EDT

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How is this a matter of his life, liberty, or property?

They will probably claim it's his liberty, under the 1st amendment, but I see no one stopping him from speaking out, or reporting whatever he likes. Freedoms of speech and the press don't give you a right to a White House press pass.

And, again I'll say it...the big media companies and "recognized" press like people to believe that they alone are "the press" in the context of the first amendment. They're not. Bloggers and small independents are far more in line with the small, individual presses and self-published political agitators and political commentators of the revolutionary era.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:49:41 AM EDT

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Fuck the judge. Press pass is a privilege, not a right. Fuck him to hell.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:49:51 AM EDT

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So by this logic it’s our right to be there as well?

Bet we can’t get past the front gate .....

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:49:58 AM EDT

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If your driver's license can be revoked by the state for reckless driving, as driving on government roads is a privilege....

Reckless driving equating to bad behavior in this case....

How can revoking a single reporter's press pass (a granted privilege) be in contravention to common practices?

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Your drivers license cannot be revoked without due process.

Posted: 11/16/2018 11:50:08 AM EDT

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Acosta is going to crank the "insufferable douchebag" routine up to 11, isn't he?

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I am honestly praying he does. I want him to go overboard and back, and then overboard again. Nothing short of blatant mental derangement, or in this case narcissist with no skins.