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Posted: 11/20/2003 1:06:03 AM EDT
OUCH!

I sure wouldn't have wanted to be a first responder to this one.

www.theindychannel.com/news/2647737/detail.html

Authorities: Hunter Accidentally Shot, Killed Himself

POSTED: 9:40 p.m. EST November 18, 2003

WALKERTON, Ind. -- A Starke County man accidentally shot and killed himself while getting out of his truck with a loaded shotgun Tuesday.

Charles Brownlee Sr., 53, of Koontz Lake was leaving his truck when the shotgun he was carrying discharged a deer slug into his head, state conversation officers said.

Brownlee was pronounced dead at the scene of the accident near Walkerton, about 20 miles southwest of South Bend.

Investigators believe Brownlee had pulled off a road to shoot a deer.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:08:37 AM EDT
WTF did he have a loaded shotgun in his vehicle?

Sad
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:12:09 AM EDT
More than likely it "wasnt loaded". That sucks.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:17:05 AM EDT
Well the media got it wrong again.........

Authorities: Hunter Accidentally Shot, Killed Himself

then

Investigators believe Brownlee had pulled off a road to shoot a deer.

Sounds like a poacher to me.

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A Starke County man accidentally shot and killed himself while getting out of his truck with a loaded shotgun Tuesday.

An accident is an unforseen action. What they are describing is negligent.

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Charles Brownlee Sr., 53, of Koontz Lake was leaving his truck when the shotgun he was carrying discharged a deer slug into his head, state conversation officers said.

Into? The word they wanted to use was through.

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Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:19:59 AM EDT
Road hunter.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:36:00 AM EDT

Charles Brownlee Sr., 53, of Koontz Lake was leaving his truck when the shotgun he was carrying discharged a deer slug into his head, state conversation officers said.


Guns don't discharge themselves. Idiot probably had his finger in the trigger guard.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:46:32 AM EDT
I'm just looking my Mossberg 590A1. How the hell do you "accidentally" manage to get the muzzle pointed at your head and your finger on the trigger? I'd have alarm bells screaming in my brain if any longarm ever got near that configuration in my hands.

Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:52:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2003 1:52:42 AM EDT by Demordrah]

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
I'm just looking my Mossberg 590A1. How the hell do you "accidentally" manage to get the muzzle pointed at your head and your finger on the trigger? I'd have alarm bells screaming in my brain if any longarm ever got near that configuration in my hands.

flymeaway.net/images/darwin.gif



Only thing I can figure is that the shotgun was leaning towards him from the passenger side of the truck as he was reaching to take it out, and he grabbed it in an unsafe manner. Any way you slice it, this guy was a tool. That muzzle should never have been even remotely pointing at any part of his body.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 2:46:46 AM EDT
He was rushing to get out of his vehicle to hit the buck.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 2:56:26 AM EDT
Can only speculate, but 2 most likely senarios are:

1. shot-gun was stored behind the seat or in gunrack, apparently with barrel point toward the drivers side and obviously loaded, driver steps out of truck reaches behind seat or up to gun-rack, pulling shotgun out by barrel, trigger hangs on something, boom! dead poacher.

2. (more likely) shot-gun setting barrel up, in passenger seat, stock on floorboard, as driver exits door, he reaches back to grap shot-gun by forend, pulling firearm out after him and crossing non-existant brain material with muzzle, trigger hangs on floorboard material or console material, boom!, instant "GOOD" poacher.

Mike
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 3:21:58 AM EDT
No accident here, just plain STUPIDITY on his behalf.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 3:42:43 AM EDT
Deer - 1.

Poacher - 0.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 3:54:04 AM EDT
Well, at least the next time he does it he will be a little more carefull....
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 4:01:10 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 4:06:24 AM EDT
why do you assume he's a poacher or road hunter?

this could happen to any one of us but only if we acted like a dumb azz.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 4:18:58 AM EDT
Gray hair, or not. Makes no difference in this guys case. That just wasn't a wise thing to do.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 4:38:52 AM EDT
There are dip shits every where.

2 houses have been shot here in northern Michigan this firearm deer season, one passed through a bedroom wall right over a woman.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 4:43:01 AM EDT
Road hunting is allowed in some states.
I had an uncle in PA with disabilities and could hunt from the car.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 4:44:26 AM EDT
Or, was it suicide? Dress up for hunting, pull of road, shoot self in head in awkward position. Family still gets insurance money for accidental death.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 6:43:21 AM EDT
I'll give a STRONG vote for mr_wilson's #1 scene as something very similar happened when I was young(35+ years ago)
My grandfather had his 308 semi in the gun rack of a truck. Drove over an old knocked down tree and jarred the rifle(hook of rack between trigger and gaurd) and sent 2 rounds thru the passenger side of the cab, behind the door. Very dumb,as it was loaded, chambered and safety off. Only good thing was that my grandmother and I were riding on the tailgate.
So, it can happen.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 6:47:39 AM EDT
The old "pull it out by the barrel" move is an excellent and common way to put a quick end to a hunting trip.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 6:48:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 308wood:
why do you assume he's a poacher or road hunter?



Last line of article "Investigators believe Brownlee had pulled off a road to shoot a deer.", might have something to do w/ it.

Mike
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 6:48:17 AM EDT
Stoopid........
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 7:25:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 7:50:06 AM EDT
In CA we would charge the deer with homicide, then make a TV movie, then pass a law against deer loitering.

CW
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 7:59:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 9supercomp:
Road hunting is allowed in some states.
I had an uncle in PA with disabilities and could hunt from the car.



You can roadhunt in KS, but cannot carry a loaded firearm with you, and you cannot shoot from the vehical, unless you are disabled and have special permit.

And I roadhunt sometimes, always along land I have specific permission to hunt on. No this drive randomly arround the state till I see something.

Link Posted: 11/20/2003 9:47:58 AM EDT
And before anyone says that he might have had disabilities that allowed him to hunt from the truck, The article said that he was getting out.

So if you can legaly hunt from the truck, why get out?
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 10:05:11 AM EDT
I heard a story a long time ago about some lady who was IN HER OWN YARD and was shot by a guy who thought she was a deer.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 10:11:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Greenhorn:
I heard a story a long time ago about some lady who was IN HER OWN YARD and was shot by a guy who thought she was a deer.



Was it her husband by chance?
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 10:16:41 AM EDT
ouch!
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 10:16:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Deer - 1.

Poacher - 0.



You beat me to it. Happens every year around here and that is always my first response. I particularly like the one where the guy has a heart attack from "buck fever".
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 10:25:55 AM EDT
DARWIN was right!
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 10:35:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2003 3:24:23 PM EDT by sum-rifle]
I would at least look at suicide as possible.
If he was hunting, during deer season and had tags and it is legal to road hunt and hunt from a vehicle the reason to get out is simple if the deer was on the other side of the road.
Say your West bound and right handed, what if the deer was on the North side of the road?
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 10:55:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Valkyrie:
WTF did he have a loaded shotgun in his vehicle?

Sad



Don't ya know? They're ALL loaded!
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 11:18:42 AM EDT
Pretty common actually, they pick it up by the barrel and pull it out of the vehicle. Knew of one guy that put a 7mm magnum round thru his gut a few years back.

Did have one gangbanger shoot himself in the chest with an SKS the same way, pulling it out of the trunk to shoot up a rival's house.
Link Posted: 11/21/2003 4:25:30 AM EDT
Ahahahahaha! Good for him. It should happen more often.
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