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Posted: 9/12/2018 7:40:03 AM EDT
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Nope. I get hammer bite from the issue guns so I would never shoot it, besides I have a Dan Wesson so the old one would just sit there. It would be a waste besides the price is kinda out there for a "luck of the draw" sight unseen purchase. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 10:32:39 AM EDT
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Not just no, hell no. plus they fucked C&R holders BIG TIME |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 10:41:31 AM EDT
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I have the form on my desk ready to fill out, due by Oct 4th.
Is it a good deal? Absolutely not. But I have four rifles in my safe that I bought from the CMP over the years that were a good deal. It won't hurt me to support such a great organization. Also, it is a drawing, so if I get drawn, then it is the will of God that I should buy one. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:16:46 AM EDT
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I would buy two or three 1911s (not A1s) at that price. I would love to see where you are finding them that cheap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My packet was delivered today. One like this and I will be well pleased. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/212055/A-sneak-peak-at-the-CMP-1911-inventory-PHOTOS-4-663658.JPG Note the Augusta Armory (AA) rebuild stamp....Likely refurbed post WW-II. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88145/26233063_686832981705495_3514259526867811311_o-663812.JPG Now note the Anniston (AN) rebuild marking.....Rebuilt in '78. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88145/26233322_686825525039574_1025242592948584244_o-663813.JPG That particular gun will be sold as a service grade for $1050.00....A 1911A1 that has been armory rebuilt twice. I have a post war AA rebuild. I paid $650.00 for it this past June. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88145/DSCN7754__2_-566710.JPG The bottom line is if you are expecting "those guns to talk" the various era parts will be talking over each other.  |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 1:55:02 AM EDT
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^^^ plus they fucked C&R holders BIG TIME |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 2:13:22 AM EDT
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how 
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Posted: 9/13/2018 2:37:55 AM EDT
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I think the majority have a fresh armory rebuild on them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nope. I get hammer bite from the issue guns so I would never shoot it, besides I have a Dan Wesson so the old one would just sit there. It would be a waste besides the price is kinda out there for a "luck of the draw" sight unseen purchase. I never read that anywhere about these guns. Some are rebuilds and anything nice is going to be auctioned. This is not like the good days of DCM where they just pull the next rifle, box it regardless of what it is and send it to you. I know guys that got glass bedded match rifles, new condition rebuilds, and some really collectible stuff at the flat rate price. That does not happen anymore. Besides it's right back to the hammerbite, which means I would have to alter it or just not shoot it. I got a couple of the Argentine 1911 Colts when they were imported and had to change out the grip safety to shoot them so I'll just have to let someone else have at it. Putting money into those parts guns at those prices is a waste to me. $1k is almost another Dan Wesson that I can shoot. Good luck in the drawing though. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 6:02:24 AM EDT
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^^^ plus they fucked C&R holders BIG TIME Next false statement??????????????? |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 6:16:32 AM EDT
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I like the idea, but the problem is that I care much more about a USGI "style" 1911 than a true GI issued gun.
I'd be nice to have an armory rebuilt Colt though, but I don't think that'll happen for me. I'll get one on the second hand market so I can actually pick what I get and pay more for it. I'm going to get another Colt 1991A1 and change some stuff, then get it parked and have an "M1911A1+". Flat bottom firing pin stop, better sights (Harrison GI rear, Novak tritium front, and call it good.) That'd be a gun I'd shoot all the time. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 10:01:41 AM EDT
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The majority? What makes you think that? I never read that anywhere about these guns. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 10:16:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The article in the American Rifleman says the pistols were rebuilt and reparked at Anniston Army Depot from 1978 to 1982. I didn't read that article. Will see if I can find it. Happen to know what issue the article was in? They might be decent shooters then, for those that want one. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 10:46:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The article in the American Rifleman says the pistols were rebuilt and reparked at Anniston Army Depot from 1978 to 1982. From CMP: Service Grade $1050. Pistol may exhibit minor pitting and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition. Field Grade $950. Pistol may exhibit minor rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition. Rack Grade $850. Pistol will exhibit rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips may be incomplete and exhibit cracks. Pistol requires minor work to return to issuable condition. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 10:48:07 AM EDT
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Thanks. I didn't read that article. Will see if I can find it. Happen to know what issue the article was in? They might be decent shooters then, for those that want one. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 10:49:10 AM EDT
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I'd love one but too rich for my blood at this time. I have a CMP Garand as well.
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Posted: 9/13/2018 10:56:21 AM EDT
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But not all of them, they only showed the good ones. From CMP: Service Grade $1050. Pistol may exhibit minor pitting and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition. Field Grade $950. Pistol may exhibit minor rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition. Rack Grade $850. Pistol will exhibit rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips may be incomplete and exhibit cracks. Pistol requires minor work to return to issuable condition. Remember, they are authorized to receive up to 100,000 at 10,000 per year. The Army opted to only give them 8000 this year. If they get 100,000 applications during this acceptance period, there will not be any more offerings. Next years allocation (if any) will start with the first number not drawn this year. They did not show only the good ones, there are pictures out there of the "museum" pistols, and the Anniston rebuilds. Bottom line, if you are fortunate enough to get drawn, you then have the option of accepting or refusing. Til then you don't have a dollar invested. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 11:25:42 AM EDT
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Mailed my packet yesterday. If I get one, great. If not, no big deal. I've blown money on stupider shit. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 11:30:13 AM EDT
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I was planning to, but the 1911 money turned into SIGs, so oh well.
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Posted: 9/13/2018 11:32:14 AM EDT
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I have a really nice WWII Colt 1911.
I will wait to see pics on arfcom of the conditions of these pistols. Depending on what I see, I might get in on the next batch, but probably not. I don't enjoy shooting 1911s. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 12:02:06 PM EDT
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I have a really nice WWII Colt 1911. I will wait to see pics on arfcom of the conditions of these pistols. Depending on what I see, I might get in on the next batch, but probably not. I don't enjoy shooting 1911s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have a really nice WWII Colt 1911. I will wait to see pics on arfcom of the conditions of these pistols. Depending on what I see, I might get in on the next batch, but probably not. I don't enjoy shooting 1911s. Here is the problem with your statement in red. Estimates are approx. 100K 1911/1911A1 pistols in storage with the Army. The CMP application states that they will be generating the list for this and any future allotments of pistols from the applications they receive during from 04SEP-04OCT2018. I read that 100K applications will be sent in this year and those people will be on the list (spot on list assigned by random number generator). If they really do get 100K applications, there will be a list of 100K people and there won't be another "batch" because any future batches will be spoken for from the list generated on 05OCT2018. From the CMP 1911 website http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/1911-information/ Customer names from complete CMP 1911 order form packets will be fed into a computerized Random Number Generator on 5 October 2018. The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequential order through the random picking process. Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator. The CMP 1911 customers will select their grade of pistol (Service, Field or Rack) from available inventory at the time of order notification. Customers with higher numbers may have fewer grades from which to choose. When this year’s allotment of 1911s is exhausted, the remaining orders will be held in the existing sequence for all future allotments of 1911s. The CMP does not know what future allotments might be. *All of this assumes that another law isn't passed to release more pistols or stop the release of pistols. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 3:27:23 PM EDT
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*All of this assumes that another law isn't passed to release more pistols or stop the release of pistols. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 3:44:25 PM EDT
[#21]
nvm
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Posted: 9/13/2018 3:44:33 PM EDT
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I've waffled back and forth on getting in on it, but I've decided to be "out".
While I like the potential to have a piece of history that sort of connects me to my father, Vietnam-era infantry, I can hear him telling me I am stupid to spend so much on something that was so old and beat up.
I think instead, I'm going to look at picking up a Colt M45A1 since the service-grade CMP 1911 is 70% of the way there on cost. I have the mag out of the 1911 my dad carried in Vietnam, so it can live in on in something new. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 3:48:44 PM EDT
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My packet was delivered today. One like this and I will be well pleased. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/212055/A-sneak-peak-at-the-CMP-1911-inventory-PHOTOS-4-663658.JPG Note the Augusta Armory (AA) rebuild stamp....Likely refurbed post WW-II. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88145/26233063_686832981705495_3514259526867811311_o-663812.JPG Now note the Anniston (AN) rebuild marking.....Rebuilt in '78. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88145/26233322_686825525039574_1025242592948584244_o-663813.JPG That particular gun will be sold as a service grade for $1050.00....A 1911A1 that has been armory rebuilt twice. I have a post war AA rebuild. I paid $650.00 for it this past June. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88145/DSCN7754__2_-566710.JPG The bottom line is if you are expecting "those guns to talk" the various era parts will be talking over each other. A friend found one at a LGS about two weeks before I found mine. He's a collector and needed a arsenal rebuild to fill a hole in his collection. He paid $785.00 for a AA rebuilt M1911A1. His was a Remington slide on a Colt frame. The finish wear was about the same as my example. I suspect both were rebuilt post-war. Augusta Arsenal (AA) closed in 1955. |
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Posted: 9/13/2018 8:01:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2018 8:59:36 PM EDT
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https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2018/5/22/the-cmp-m1911s-the-inside-story/ |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 1:35:55 PM EDT
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Well my packet got delivered a couple of weeks ago. I guess we'll see if I get picked!
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Posted: 9/25/2018 2:11:08 PM EDT
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I printed the order packet and came to my senses. History is nice but not worth the extra cost. At these prices I can get a brand new 1911. Service Grade $1050. Pistol may exhibit minor pitting and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition. Field Grade $950. Pistol may exhibit minor rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition. Rack Grade $850. Pistol will exhibit rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips may be incomplete and exhibit cracks. Pistol requires minor work to return to issuable condition. $899 from Colt, probably less street cost.  Attached File$1549 38 Super  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 2:16:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWow! Welcome to the playground. That's a dang nice brace of M45A1's adorning that wall. Probably, likely The Best shooting 1911A1 out of the box that Colt has produced. |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 2:17:34 PM EDT
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I am in.
If you are looking for a "deal" this program is not for you. If you want a historic firearm (like all cmp guns have) this program is not much different than other cmp programs but had added requirements that is not the cmp's going. If you are lucky enough to draw a number, get a 1911 and do not like it I am sure you can easily get your purchase price out of it. I was going to skip it but it's the luck of the draw and good luck to those that entered. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 1:30:21 AM EDT
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I was about to send in my packet when I noticed that my dealer did not sign the copy of his FFL in ink. It's a signature but part of the photocopy.
Does that matter? |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 11:20:11 AM EDT
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Bump for day crew. Do I need to go back to the FFL and get a copy signed in ink?
It seems like a odd rule given that faxed and emailed copies are acceptable. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 12:19:05 PM EDT
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IMO as long as its signed its OK. FFL's are also E-mailing and the licenses . No different than them?
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Posted: 9/26/2018 12:33:35 PM EDT
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Nope.
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Posted: 9/26/2018 1:01:23 PM EDT
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I did!
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Posted: 9/26/2018 1:07:31 PM EDT
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I would love to get one, but I guess I'll go be poor somewhere else
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Posted: 9/26/2018 1:08:30 PM EDT
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I'm a shooter.....not a collector.....so.....nope. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 5:58:10 PM EDT
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IMO as long as its signed its OK. FFL's are also E-mailing and the licenses . No different than them? Packet on the way. I figured that if I change my mind I could turn it down if I got selected. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 6:00:49 PM EDT
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That's the fundamental issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm a shooter.....not a collector.....so.....nope. 
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Posted: 9/26/2018 11:05:03 PM EDT
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Dunno if I wanna end up with a Colt, Remington, or Springfield! D'oh! lol
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Posted: 9/27/2018 12:09:04 PM EDT
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Do you guys think this meets the CMP's criteria for a signed FFL? When I contacted my LGS, they directed me to this form on their website. I'm concerned about the part where it instructs FFLs to send it "with customer's name attached."
https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/83d190_ce554053d6be465498ca4b4b0cedee5f.pdf |
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Posted: 9/27/2018 12:51:04 PM EDT
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what the hell, i do have an empty holster to fill, afterall
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Posted: 9/27/2018 4:19:07 PM EDT
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Do you guys think this meets the CMP's criteria for a signed FFL? When I contacted my LGS, they directed me to this form on their website. I'm concerned about the part where it instructs FFLs to send it "with customer's name attached." https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/83d190_ce554053d6be465498ca4b4b0cedee5f.pdf FFL thread in CMP forum. (Forums were down when I asked my above question) |
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Posted: 9/27/2018 4:22:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With that said, best of luck to those hoping for a Singer. |
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Posted: 9/27/2018 4:48:29 PM EDT
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I have better things to spend a grand on.
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Posted: 9/27/2018 5:33:32 PM EDT
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This could be valuable for those who haven’t sent their packet in yet:
CMP 1911 application tips Remember they must RECEIVE the packet by 10/04. The postmark is not enough. EDIT: Deadline extended. Applications must be postmarked by 10/04. |
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Posted: 9/27/2018 6:40:26 PM EDT
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I’m an FFL.
I’ve made 3 submissions, waited a week with no confirmation and submitted again. Got confirmation on 2 today. Nothing on the third. Resubmitted my FFL for the third and got confirmation right back immediately of the first one again. Who is doing this system? First one I did send in I originally got “why shipping address different” and that was it. Confidence in this process is dropping dramatically. |
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Posted: 10/1/2018 4:32:53 PM EDT
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I just mailed my application off today. I highly doubt I will get one but I know what the answer is if I don't apply.
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Posted: 10/1/2018 4:36:07 PM EDT
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Life's too short to blow my cash on an overpriced worn out 1911.
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Posted: 10/1/2018 4:36:35 PM EDT
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In the mail today
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Posted: 10/1/2018 4:37:02 PM EDT
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This could be valuable for those who haven’t sent their packet in yet: CMP 1911 application tips Remember they must RECEIVE the packet by 10/04. The postmark is not enough. |
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