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Posted: 8/17/2018 5:33:45 PM EDT
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I never even saw FMJ until AFTER Boot Camp. (Was only 10 days from walking into the recruiters office to yellow footprints...) I didn't get ANY of the jokes....  |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 5:34:05 PM EDT
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The Gomer Pyle remake was called Heartbreak Ridge with Clint Eastwood as Gunnery Sergeant Carter, Marsha Mason as Bunny, and Mario Van Peebles as Gomer Pyle.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 5:34:29 PM EDT
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Well, no shit. What have we got here, a fucking comedian. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never even saw FMJ until AFTER Boot Camp. (Was only 10 days from walking into the recruiters office to yellow footprints...) I didn't get ANY of the jokes.... |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 5:35:39 PM EDT
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The Gomer Pyle remake was called Heartbreak Ridge with Clint Eastwood as Gunnery Sergeant Carter, Marsha Mason as Bunny, and Mario Van Peebles as Gomer Pyle. 
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Posted: 8/17/2018 5:38:00 PM EDT
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No, it doesn't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Think about Kubrick's use of symbolism and it makes it quite plausible. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 5:42:15 PM EDT
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Animal Mother's backstory is that he got caught stealing a car and was given the choice between prison or Vietnam. Pyle wasn't a criminal; he was quite the opposite... likely a suburban, soft, overly protected soy-boy. Animal Mother wasn't born-again hard; he was already that way. ETA: I seem to remember an Andy Griffith episode where Gomer was leaving to join the Marines and his cousin Goober took over the auto shop. In this episode Goober goes to visit Private Pyle  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 5:49:06 PM EDT
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This thread is making me weaker while charlie grows stronger |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:18:21 PM EDT
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One other thing I forgot about the book" Short Timers" is after they destroyed the vill they dug up the ground and killed the earth worms.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:35:03 PM EDT
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I think you're missing the point. It's not that Pyle was a fuck up. It's that Pyle wanted everyone to think he was a fuck up. He didn't want to be there, and by doing what he did, was trying to get booted. They basically forced him to become a Marine, and then, he got orders to Infantry, and possibly Vietnam, Republic of.
His schtick backfired on him. Like a lot of the hippie shit you see from the 60s. Just another ploy to get out of serving. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:41:30 PM EDT
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I'd never considered this possibility, but it could certainly be what Kubrick had in mind. Surely they can't all be potentially wrong. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:45:25 PM EDT
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Think about the conversation between Joker and Animal Mother when they meet in Vietnam; hints are in that conversation. Animal mother saying to joker "You're a real comedian" etc. Rafterman is call New Guy, as he is new to the group. Pyle is Dead, but Reborn as Animal Mother. 
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:55:45 PM EDT
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I believe if there is any symbolic meaning with Pyle and Animal Mother is that they are actually reflections of Jokers personalities. Pyle represents the dumb innocence of his youth. Joker struggles to make it through boot camp and his transition into a soldier literally dragging Pyle along every step of the way. It is only when he turns on Pyle and leaves him behind he is successful. Ultimately resulting in the death of his innocence. Animal Mother could represent the finality of that transition. Joker is forced into actual combat having not yet made to his final transition into a soldier. Hence the scene when he first meets Animal Mother. He only finally make his transition after he shoots the VC sniper at the end after Animal Mother tells him to waste her. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 9:01:10 PM EDT
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I was watching Full metal jacket the other day and it dawned on me that Private Pyle became Animal Mother. He was indeed Born Again Hard.
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Posted: 8/18/2018 11:03:56 AM EDT
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Does this mean Ann Margaret isn't coming? That's my line. Attached File |
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Posted: 8/18/2018 2:58:13 PM EDT
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OP's theory has more holes than hue city building though. What OP fails to realize is as Gunny Heartman bleeds out on the deck, the 2nd half of the movie is what he sees in his mind. Duh |
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Posted: 8/18/2018 3:05:30 PM EDT
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Pvt Pyle got broke. Animal Mother was a frosty motherfucker, a cold-eyed minister of death, not some whiny ass fat body who couldn't hack the gear and went all bangy bangy splat, making a shitty mess some other poor fucking recruit had to mop up.
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Posted: 8/18/2018 8:05:54 PM EDT
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I think you're missing the point. It's not that Pyle was a fuck up. It's that Pyle wanted everyone to think he was a fuck up. He didn't want to be there, and by doing what he did, was trying to get booted. They basically forced him to become a Marine, and then, he got orders to Infantry, and possibly Vietnam, Republic of. His schtick backfired on him. Like a lot of the hippie shit you see from the 60s. Just another ploy to get out of serving. |
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Posted: 8/18/2018 9:06:28 PM EDT
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No. He couldn't be. He was blind the whole time.
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Posted: 8/18/2018 9:10:39 PM EDT
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I was watching Full metal jacket the other day and it dawned on me that Private Pyle became Animal Mother. He was indeed Born Again Hard.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/18/2018 9:40:08 PM EDT
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In a rarely seen interview clip from 1996, Kubrick revealed that Pvt Pyle was in fact blind the entire time.
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Posted: 8/18/2018 10:00:21 PM EDT
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Think about Kubrick's use of symbolism and it makes it quite plausible. Ever smell burnt toast? |
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Posted: 8/18/2018 10:01:54 PM EDT
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Think about the conversation between Joker and Animal Mother when they meet in Vietnam; hints are in that conversation. Animal mother saying to joker "You're a real comedian" etc. Rafterman is call New Guy, as he is new to the group. Pyle is Dead, but Reborn as Animal Mother. Hard. |
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