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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:21:28 PM EDT
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There isn't a single thing Zach Snyder has done that isn't absolutely atrocious. Anyone handing that man money hasn't a brain cell in their body. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:21:37 PM EDT
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There isn't a single thing Zach Snyder has done that isn't absolutely atrocious. Anyone handing that man money hasn't a brain cell in their body. His other super hero movies sucked. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:24:08 PM EDT
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There isn't a single thing Zach Snyder has done that isn't absolutely atrocious. Anyone handing that man money hasn't a brain cell in their body. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:24:26 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does Rorschach look like Scut Farkus from A Christmas Story? |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:26:38 PM EDT
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Not quite. I think 300 was an awesome movie. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:26:51 PM EDT
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Not quite. I think 300 was an awesome movie. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There isn't a single thing Zach Snyder has done that isn't absolutely atrocious. Anyone handing that man money hasn't a brain cell in their body. Otherwise, I am not sure why i’d want to watch a bunch of oiled-up dudes show off their six-packs for two hours. 
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:29:08 PM EDT
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Writing out the fake psionic space squid was a huge leap, given how faithful the rest of the movie was, and a very good decision. Doctor Manhattan framed for the attack makes vastly more sense and streamlines the story wonderfully. The squid would have totally muddled the whole thing just as the finale was peaking. Great movie on every level. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:29:21 PM EDT
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Was he the sidekick in The Human Target? |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:30:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I was gay (or a chick), I suppose it would have been a pretty decent movie. Otherwise, I am not sure why i'd want to watch a bunch of oiled-up dudes show off their six-packs for two hours. 
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:30:41 PM EDT
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I really loved The Watchmen. Great movie.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:31:36 PM EDT
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It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie. But Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are better super hero movies. Captain America is a life long .gov/company man, but when an elevator full of soldiers (well shield agents but whatever) tell him to surrender, he does what is right regardless of consequences, he fights everyone to save his friend and refuses to fight his friend even when it means his life. Sure they're a couple of Marvel blockbusters, but it's also a man protecting his innocent friend against the government. Classic Line! |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:32:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Before we get started, does anyone want to get off? ... Classic Line! |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:33:14 PM EDT
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It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie. But Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are better super hero movies. Captain America is a life long .gov/company man, but when an elevator full of soldiers (well shield agents but whatever) tell him to surrender, he does what is right regardless of consequences, he fights everyone to save his friend and refuses to fight his friend even when it means his life. Sure they're a couple of Marvel blockbusters, but it's also a man protecting his innocent friend against the government. When I was younger I thought it was the greatest comic. As I aged and had kids I realized that good can win and it’s important. More of a Cap fan myself, “No, you move.” |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:35:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not familiar with it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:35:37 PM EDT
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The opening showing the timeline is excellent. I think it's a great movie. And the songs they picked are perfect. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:36:42 PM EDT
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It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie. But Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are better super hero movies. Captain America is a life long .gov/company man, but when an elevator full of soldiers (well shield agents but whatever) tell him to surrender, he does what is right regardless of consequences, he fights everyone to save his friend and refuses to fight his friend even when it means his life. Sure they're a couple of Marvel blockbusters, but it's also a man protecting his innocent friend against the government. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:36:43 PM EDT
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Yes. Guerrero. Liked that show. So, of course they canceled it after 2 seasons. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:39:11 PM EDT
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The opening showing the timeline is excellent. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:40:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, the whole "even good guys are bad guys" shtick didn't sit well with me. Sure, there are times when there are only shitty choices but you don't have to go all Dr. Evil because you think its best for humanity. That usually has exactly the opposite effect. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:45:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, the whole "even good guys are bad guys" shtick didn't sit well with me. Sure, there are times when there are only shitty choices but you don't have to go all Dr. Evil because you think its best for humanity. That usually has exactly the opposite effect. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:46:00 PM EDT
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The opening showing the timeline is excellent. The music makes the movie. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:47:38 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does Rorschach look like Scut Farkus from A Christmas Story? |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:48:59 PM EDT
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Come gather round people... The music makes the movie. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The opening showing the timeline is excellent. The music makes the movie. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:50:29 PM EDT
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The Winter Soldier actually is "innocent" as he was forced to commit his crimes because of "mind control." While he committed crimes he had no free will or intent to commit the crimes. Remember at the end of Winter Soldier "Bucky" overcomes his "programming" when his friend Steve is going to die and saves him. The Winter Soldier is a horribly unlikeable character who even cut down Tony Stark's parents, and Steve Rogers is the only one who is willing to go to bat for him. That's why I think they are such great films, they are epitome of fighting against all odds and even in defense of what appears to be an evil man, when it's the right thing to do. Super hero stories were the Greek mythology of the 20th century, they told stories of archetypes of heroism that Americans aspired to, even if they were unrealistic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Bucky is innocent but the Winter Soldier definitely is not innocent. To me that's what makes those movies good. Everyone is both right and wrong. It all comes down to the individuals perspective and judgment. Those moves built the MCU because there was so much character development. Super hero stories were the Greek mythology of the 20th century, they told stories of archetypes of heroism that Americans aspired to, even if they were unrealistic. At this point the anti-hero stuff is boring to me, all dripping with teenager angst & immature self loathing. Ironically, as an adult I see the need for clear-cut "boring" hero stories and can enjoy them for their moving portrayal of positive messages, rather than for sheer novelty in defying as many tropes as possible. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:58:05 PM EDT
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nvm
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:05:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not that they're the bad guys; it's that they're flawed just like every else |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:15:08 PM EDT
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The whole movie is a leftist post modern deconstruction of the American superhero. The movie is despicable. Rescuing children from a fire makes you horny? Everybody with the possible exception of Rorschach is a piece of shit. Fuck that movie. It's one of the most sickening, disgusting movies I've seen in years.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:19:34 PM EDT
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HBO is picking it up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree. Wish they would have made a mini series out of it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:20:04 PM EDT
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Was he the sidekick in The Human Target? |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:25:51 PM EDT
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One of my favorites
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:42:45 PM EDT
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I didn't much care for it. But, I do agree that Rorshach was the best super hero in that movie. In fact, I thought that he was the only decent super hero in that entire movie. The majority of the movie sucked, with the exception of the scenes with Rorshach. All of the other super heroes were losers, especially the blue giant idiot that had the most power which he squandered and stupidly assisted the villain super hero character that was murdering all of the other super heroes. Again, Rorshach came through as the only real super hero when he refused to accept and perpetuate the lie that the villain super hero was conducting to scare the world, and he stood his ground even with the idiot blue giant icehole murdering him at the end. The pathetic Owl guy was totally worthless. And the premise of the entire movie was based on the "Outer Limits" episode "The Architects of Fear" as evidenced by their showing part of that episode on the TV at the end. Now, if they were to do a prequel movie and made it only about Rorshach and leave out all of those loser (not so) super, heroes, that is one movie that I would look forward to viewing.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:45:39 PM EDT
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meh
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:46:54 PM EDT
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It was alright. Definitely not the best, imo.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:47:05 PM EDT
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I disagree, an overwhelming common enemy has frequently unified bitter enemies throughout history. There's a huge number of examples in the 20th century alone. ETA: temporarily Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nah. The villain's motivations were particularly dumb. I could never take it seriously. "Peace based on a lie!" "But peace nonetheless." "I've made myself feel every death... see every innocent face I've murdered to save humanity." "Scarecrows and magic and other fatal fears do not bring people closer together. There is no magic substitute for soft caring and hard work, for self-respect and mutual love. If we can learn this from the mistake these frightened men made, then their mistake will not have been merely grotesque, it would at least have been a lesson. A lesson, at last, to be learned." |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:01:30 AM EDT
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If I was gay (or a chick), I suppose it would have been a pretty decent movie. Otherwise, I am not sure why i’d want to watch a bunch of oiled-up dudes show off their six-packs for two hours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There isn't a single thing Zach Snyder has done that isn't absolutely atrocious. Anyone handing that man money hasn't a brain cell in their body. Otherwise, I am not sure why i’d want to watch a bunch of oiled-up dudes show off their six-packs for two hours. If you cannot, well, then you're denying something.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:04:45 AM EDT
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Writing out the fake psionic space squid was a huge leap, given how faithful the rest of the movie was, and a very good decision. Doctor Manhattan framed for the attack makes vastly more sense and streamlines the story wonderfully. The squid would have totally muddled the whole thing just as the finale was peaking. Great movie on every level. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:06:23 AM EDT
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Unify the world against a common enemy to prevent WWIII and spark a technological race that will colonize space, spread the race out enough that one foolish war can't wipe us all out? That was an awesome motivation (that had a lot more meaning when it was written, during the Cold War). "Peace based on a lie!" "But peace nonetheless." "I've made myself feel every death... see every innocent face I've murdered to save humanity." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nah. The villain's motivations were particularly dumb. I could never take it seriously. "Peace based on a lie!" "But peace nonetheless." "I've made myself feel every death... see every innocent face I've murdered to save humanity." |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:22:00 AM EDT
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The whole movie is a leftist post modern deconstruction of the American superhero. The movie is despicable. Rescuing children from a fire makes you horny? Everybody with the possible exception of Rorschach is a piece of shit. Fuck that movie. It's one of the most sickening, disgusting movies I've seen in years.
Okay, grandpa. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:27:46 AM EDT
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The whole movie is a leftist post modern deconstruction of the American superhero. Everybody with the possible exception of Rorschach is a piece of shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The whole movie is a leftist post modern deconstruction of the American superhero. Everybody with the possible exception of Rorschach is a piece of shit. I would have also added that I thought the acting and editing was bad for everyone aside Rorschach So I view it kind of like The Last Jedi. Seems its purpose was one thing but the outcome was the other. All of the other heroes were debased and it showed when they all gave up their posts without much fight. Rorschach is the only one unwilling to leave his principles behind and believes truth trumps all. Moore hated right-wing politics and this was his right wing character and the only one who is worthy of being called a hero. Quoted:
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Nah. The villain's motivations were particularly dumb. I could never take it seriously. "Peace based on a lie!" "But peace nonetheless." "I've made myself feel every death... see every innocent face I've murdered to save humanity." |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:35:46 AM EDT
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No way that story is told the same way today. The Ozzy gay dude was a diddler, and you can just imagine the SJW screaming over that plot point. If Hblow is doing a version, they will turn him into a noble peace activist or something.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:51:18 AM EDT
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Watchmen was almost a great movie. There is some stuff in there that I really like. There's also a lot of derp. A lot of liberal idiocy. Dumb plot. Unsatisfying ending. Looked very cool.
It was almost the best super hero movie ever. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:07:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: If I was gay (or a chick), I suppose it would have been a pretty decent movie. Otherwise, I am not sure why i’d want to watch a bunch of oiled-up dudes show off their six-packs for two hours. 
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:09:02 AM EDT
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I didn't care for it, nor did I read the comic books  |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:10:42 AM EDT
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It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie. But Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are better super hero movies. Captain America is a life long .gov/company man, but when an elevator full of soldiers (well shield agents but whatever) tell him to surrender, he does what is right regardless of consequences, he fights everyone to save his friend and refuses to fight his friend even when it means his life. Sure they're a couple of Marvel blockbusters, but it's also a man protecting his innocent friend against the government. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:34:16 AM EDT
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Ultimate Cut is leaps and bounds better than the theatrical release. I got no sense of urgency or alarm while watching in the theater. The UC stresses the nuclear apocalypse potential much better and makes the ending and villain motivation seem relevant. Missed that on the shorter cut. Off on the 2nd best tangent, I like Unbreakable and have seen trailers for a sequel, Glass. Split with James McAvoy is part of the series too. Granted, it's M. Night... but I thought it was a well done take on the genre. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:42:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He just had to kill millions of people to make the plan work. Like Stalin. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:54:30 AM EDT
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I didn't much care for it. But, I do agree that Rorshach was the best super hero in that movie. In fact, I thought that he was the only decent super hero in that entire movie. The majority of the movie sucked, with the exception of the scenes with Rorshach. All of the other super heroes were losers, especially the blue giant idiot that had the most power which he squandered and stupidly assisted the villain super hero character that was murdering all of the other super heroes. Again, Rorshach came through as the only real super hero when he refused to accept and perpetuate the lie that the villain super hero was conducting to scare the world, and he stood his ground even with the idiot blue giant icehole murdering him at the end. The pathetic Owl guy was totally worthless. And the premise of the entire movie was based on the "Outer Limits" episode "The Architects of Fear" as evidenced by their showing part of that episode on the TV at the end. Now, if they were to do a prequel movie and made it only about Rorshach and leave out all of those loser (not so) super, heroes, that is one movie that I would look forward to viewing. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 1:15:52 PM EDT
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Unbreakable was gritty and excellent. I'm not sure people consider it a 'superhero' movie due to the absence of CGI, capes and tights. But they would be wrong
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Posted: 8/17/2018 1:42:23 PM EDT
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AKSHUALLY, a poncho is a front-cape and a back-cape, with hood.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unbreakable was gritty and excellent. I'm not sure people consider it a 'superhero' movie due to the absence of CGI, capes and tights. But they would be wrong
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not familiar with it. |
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