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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:22:59 PM EDT
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Pretty sure Wayne made their stance pretty clear. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:23:47 PM EDT
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It's either fucking terrible or fucking genius. Only time will tell. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:26:35 PM EDT
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You have done nothing but scream at the sky and freak the fuck out like your world is coming to an end this entire thread. I understand what these memos and tweets mean and I understand the reaching repercussions but holy shit man, reel it in.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can keep dreaming about that, but in reality this is going to ban bump fire stocks, binary triggers, and probably some other stuff. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:26:58 PM EDT
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Let me let you in on a little secret...They already see us as heartless Nazis that don't care about children. They don't give a diddly shit about kids... They want control, period.. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:27:19 PM EDT
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None of them have and that's my point! Everyone is saying "oh maga 4d chess, trump loves the bump stock and it'll never get banned" but literally no one, even the fucking NRA is in favor of the bump stock. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:28:13 PM EDT
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You're right about that. I've watched Trump play rope a dope with the media for two+ years and have learned to trust his negotiation skills. The emotional chicken littles? Not so much. Faith. People who do not Trust and have Faith in a politician = Emotional Chicken Littles. We have come a long way. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:29:21 PM EDT
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You have no idea what it looks like when I freak the fuck out. I am unhappy with his decision, and I no longer support him. It sounds like what I wrote offended you, or worried you. Neither should be the case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can keep dreaming about that, but in reality this is going to ban bump fire stocks, binary triggers, and probably some other stuff. I am unhappy with his decision, and I no longer support him. It sounds like what I wrote offended you, or worried you. Neither should be the case. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:33:43 PM EDT
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Stoic you are certainly not, that's for sure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have no idea what it looks like when I freak the fuck out. I am unhappy with his decision, and I no longer support him. It sounds like what I wrote offended you, or worried you. Neither should be the case.  Freaking Out Over Flu Shot | Emotionally Confused |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:49:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Trust." Faith. People who do not Trust and have Faith in a politician = Emotional Chicken Littles. We have come a long way. /
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:50:12 PM EDT
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So Trump essentially placated the masses while trolling the Democrats with a "statement of potential intent" Is that the consensus ? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:53:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How's your portfolio look? Enjoying the tax breaks? Did we legalize the DACA brats? Gorsuch? /I do like the tax breaks. Although they haven't meant anything to me yet. No we didn't. Gorsuch was a good pick. That has fuck all to do with an apparent Republican president who seems to be warming up to gun control. Hopefully you're correct and he is not. I only take issue with your claim that people who don't share your trust, or faith, or whatever you want to call it are "Emotional Chicken Littles". Would people honestly prefer that we all stay quiet and not say shit to Trump and our elected representatives? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:56:09 PM EDT
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Hold fast. If I am wrong, I'll send you a soon to be outlawed PMAG. You can hold me to that. 
I think most members here who remember the AWB are in the same predicament. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:01:49 PM EDT
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I don't have enough room to panic buy any more PMAGs, I have like 40 of them from previous panics.
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Hold fast. If I am wrong, I'll send you a soon to be outlawed PMAG. You can hold me to that.
I think most members here who remember the AWB are in the same predicament. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:01:55 PM EDT
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While worried about this whole thing I keep going back to Trumps State of the Union. How he twisted the knife in about kapernic and the chain migration line during a ‘unifying’ speech. Let’s hope that Trump is the one that comes out of this situation.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:03:05 PM EDT
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Man, GD can sure panic hard over a memo about something the ATF was gonna do anyway. Bump stocks are the new shoestring. *yawn*
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:04:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would people honestly prefer that we all stay quiet and not say shit to Trump and our elected representatives? My plan is to trust Trump's negotiating ability (as stated), and to write my representatives as they tend to be wishy washy by comparison and we need them to support the 2A. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:07:54 PM EDT
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Feel free to quote this: I'll literally eat a spoonful of H4895 if Trump somehow twists this to advance gun rights, as some claim in this thread. I just don't see how it's possible. If he tries to poison pill them, it can easily be refuted as "the NRA and NRA funded legislators tried to backdoor xyz, so we couldn't vote for the bill". I guess we'll see.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How's your portfolio look? Enjoying the tax breaks? Did we legalize the DACA brats? Gorsuch? / All kidding aside, I mentioned taxes, Gorsuch, and pulling from the Paris Accord as victories in my letter to Trump, but letting him know not to cave on 2A issues. Be interesting to see what comes of all this. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:15:58 PM EDT
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I don't have enough room to panic buy any more PMAGs, I have like 40 of them from previous panics.
I think most members here who remember the AWB are in the same predicament. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:21:03 PM EDT
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But in the meantime let's all panic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's either fucking terrible or fucking genius. Only time will tell. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:26:20 PM EDT
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Congrats on your business, being self emlpoyed is as close to free as we'll ever get. My plan is to trust Trump's negotiating ability (as stated), and to write my representatives as they tend to be wishy washy by comparison and we need them to support the 2A.
I would prefer you trust (or not trust) Trump while ALSO writing him to let him know what you want him to do. Certainly we could agree that it's better for Trump to hear from people like you. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:32:35 PM EDT
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But in the meantime let's all panic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's either fucking terrible or fucking genius. Only time will tell. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:39:48 PM EDT
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Offering gun con control? WTF are you talking about? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm so glad that I renewed my membership this week. It's like a game of defeatist, concession_troll and #NeverTrumpTrash whack-a-mole as they parade onto the ignore list. May history forget that you were ever our countrymen.  That says a lot more about you than it does about them. Hopefully their opinions (including mine) are wrong. It amazes me that people here expect everyone to just be calm when the president is using exactly the same language Obama used to. WTF are you talking about? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:41:28 PM EDT
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This is what I hope as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck. This. Bullshit. We DON'T NEED PROPOSED REGULATIONS. I don't give a flying fuck what they are for, we don't need a single new gun regulation. This is NOT a good thing, and it flies in the face of Trumps "the eight year assault on your second amendment freedoms has come crashing to an end" bullshit he spewed. How many new regulations did Obama give us? This is complete horseshit. Fuck Trump if he proposes or signs a single new gun regulation. Period. "Republicans" control all 3 and we get new gun regs? Fuck that. Fuck Trump. What you fail to understand is this tactic is buying time. Hey ATF - keep doing that review that is already underway. Now the media can't say he is doing nothing. Meanwhile NOTHING changes until the ATF comes back and says that the only way to change it is to pass a law that bans bumpstocks and changes the age to buy rifles to 21 Guess what - nothing gets passed. Nothing fucking changes and Trump 'Tried' to pass some 'common sense' gun control |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:41:58 PM EDT
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Funny how all these people want to disown Trump for something that hasn't happened. It's almost like Republican voters secretly want him to fail. I'm also sure that when 2020 rolls around and the Democrats run a lesbian communist gun grabber for President you guys will be 100% Trump all over again. That has already happened. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:42:58 PM EDT
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I'd strongly encourage you to at least wait and see what happens first. I am concerned too, but lets see how it shakes out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have no idea what it looks like when I freak the fuck out. I am unhappy with his decision, and I no longer support him. It sounds like what I wrote offended you, or worried you. Neither should be the case. I am concerned too, but lets see how it shakes out. I'm out. Period. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:44:58 PM EDT
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You don't get it--HE'S NOT SUPPORTING DONALD TRUMP!! He's not supporting Donald Trump. At all. Not anymore. Ever. No matter what! And he really, really means it this time!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can keep dreaming about that, but in reality this is going to ban bump fire stocks, binary triggers, and probably some other stuff. I have fully supported Trump since wayyyyy before the convention. He promised for the last 2 years to protect our 2A freedoms, and now he instructed his AG to propose a new gun reg. Fuck Trump. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:46:49 PM EDT
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It's the first time I have ever said it. I have fully supported Trump since wayyyyy before the convention. He promised for the last 2 years to protect our 2A freedoms, and now he instructed his AG to propose a new gun reg. Fuck Trump. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can keep dreaming about that, but in reality this is going to ban bump fire stocks, binary triggers, and probably some other stuff. I have fully supported Trump since wayyyyy before the convention. He promised for the last 2 years to protect our 2A freedoms, and now he instructed his AG to propose a new gun reg. Fuck Trump. 
BTW, we get the message. We got it around the 10th time you posted it. We're slow, but not that slow. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:49:28 PM EDT
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But you've said it 50 times just today. That makes you look like a hysterical school girl.
BTW, we get the message. We got it around the 10th time you posted it. We're slow, but not that slow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can keep dreaming about that, but in reality this is going to ban bump fire stocks, binary triggers, and probably some other stuff. I have fully supported Trump since wayyyyy before the convention. He promised for the last 2 years to protect our 2A freedoms, and now he instructed his AG to propose a new gun reg. Fuck Trump.
BTW, we get the message. We got it around the 10th time you posted it. We're slow, but not that slow. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:49:59 PM EDT
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What happened is that he instructed his AG to propose a new gun regulation. I'm out. Period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have no idea what it looks like when I freak the fuck out. I am unhappy with his decision, and I no longer support him. It sounds like what I wrote offended you, or worried you. Neither should be the case. I am concerned too, but lets see how it shakes out. I'm out. Period. Make sure to send back all the extra money from your paycheck #notmypresident got for you |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:52:05 PM EDT
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Bye Gina Make sure to send back all the extra money from your paycheck #notmypresident got for you Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have no idea what it looks like when I freak the fuck out. I am unhappy with his decision, and I no longer support him. It sounds like what I wrote offended you, or worried you. Neither should be the case. I am concerned too, but lets see how it shakes out. I'm out. Period. Make sure to send back all the extra money from your paycheck #notmypresident got for you How much more in your paycheck did you sell your freedom for? Just curious what it's worth to you. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:52:53 PM EDT
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Sorry your girl lost What you fail to understand is this tactic is buying time. Hey ATF - keep doing that review that is already underway. Now the media can't say he is doing nothing. Meanwhile NOTHING changes until the ATF comes back and says that the only way to change it is to pass a law that bans bumpstocks and changes the age to buy rifles to 21 Guess what - nothing gets passed. Nothing fucking changes and Trump 'Tried' to pass some 'common sense' gun control Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck. This. Bullshit. We DON'T NEED PROPOSED REGULATIONS. I don't give a flying fuck what they are for, we don't need a single new gun regulation. This is NOT a good thing, and it flies in the face of Trumps "the eight year assault on your second amendment freedoms has come crashing to an end" bullshit he spewed. How many new regulations did Obama give us? This is complete horseshit. Fuck Trump if he proposes or signs a single new gun regulation. Period. "Republicans" control all 3 and we get new gun regs? Fuck that. Fuck Trump. What you fail to understand is this tactic is buying time. Hey ATF - keep doing that review that is already underway. Now the media can't say he is doing nothing. Meanwhile NOTHING changes until the ATF comes back and says that the only way to change it is to pass a law that bans bumpstocks and changes the age to buy rifles to 21 Guess what - nothing gets passed. Nothing fucking changes and Trump 'Tried' to pass some 'common sense' gun control If BATFE doesn't change their ruling on bump stocks, this goes back to Congress, and it will have a LOT of attention from the left and the media (same thing). I think there are enough votes to pass a ban in the Senate. The House is our only real hope of making a stop. If the House fails us and passes a bill, Trump will sign it. Again, Trump shouldn't even be giving gun controllers lip service. He should be telling them to piss up a rope. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:57:34 PM EDT
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So when the AG fails to ban bump stocks has DT just created another reason to fire him that the left would support?
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:57:41 PM EDT
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I'll give it to the dreamers he's letting stay lol How much more in your paycheck did you sell your freedom for? Just curious what it's worth to you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have no idea what it looks like when I freak the fuck out. I am unhappy with his decision, and I no longer support him. It sounds like what I wrote offended you, or worried you. Neither should be the case. I am concerned too, but lets see how it shakes out. I'm out. Period. Make sure to send back all the extra money from your paycheck #notmypresident got for you How much more in your paycheck did you sell your freedom for? Just curious what it's worth to you. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:58:10 PM EDT
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Putting more pressure on BATFE in the public spotlight doesn't buy time. It just adds fuel to the fire. If BATFE doesn't change their ruling on bump stocks, this goes back to Congress, and it will have a LOT of attention from the left and the media (same thing). I think there are enough votes to pass a ban in the Senate. The House is our only real hope of making a stop. If the House fails us and passes a bill, Trump will sign it. Again, Trump shouldn't even be giving gun controllers lip service. He should be telling them to piss up a rope. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck. This. Bullshit. We DON'T NEED PROPOSED REGULATIONS. I don't give a flying fuck what they are for, we don't need a single new gun regulation. This is NOT a good thing, and it flies in the face of Trumps "the eight year assault on your second amendment freedoms has come crashing to an end" bullshit he spewed. How many new regulations did Obama give us? This is complete horseshit. Fuck Trump if he proposes or signs a single new gun regulation. Period. "Republicans" control all 3 and we get new gun regs? Fuck that. Fuck Trump. What you fail to understand is this tactic is buying time. Hey ATF - keep doing that review that is already underway. Now the media can't say he is doing nothing. Meanwhile NOTHING changes until the ATF comes back and says that the only way to change it is to pass a law that bans bumpstocks and changes the age to buy rifles to 21 Guess what - nothing gets passed. Nothing fucking changes and Trump 'Tried' to pass some 'common sense' gun control If BATFE doesn't change their ruling on bump stocks, this goes back to Congress, and it will have a LOT of attention from the left and the media (same thing). I think there are enough votes to pass a ban in the Senate. The House is our only real hope of making a stop. If the House fails us and passes a bill, Trump will sign it. Again, Trump shouldn't even be giving gun controllers lip service. He should be telling them to piss up a rope. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:00:23 PM EDT
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Republicans, any new legislation or ATF regulations, I will not be donating or voting in 2018 or 2020 for a republican. America needs to send the same message! NO NEW LAWS! |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:01:07 PM EDT
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Again, Trump shouldn't even be giving gun controllers lip service. He should be telling them to piss up a rope. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:02:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Putting more pressure on BATFE in the public spotlight doesn't buy time. It just adds fuel to the fire. If BATFE doesn't change their ruling on bump stocks, this goes back to Congress, and it will have a LOT of attention from the left and the media (same thing). I think there are enough votes to pass a ban in the Senate. The House is our only real hope of making a stop. If the House fails us and passes a bill, Trump will sign it. Again, Trump shouldn't even be giving gun controllers lip service. He should be telling them to piss up a rope. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:03:19 PM EDT
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Sold my freedom? You sure are being dramatic
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You have no idea what it looks like when I freak the fuck out. I am unhappy with his decision, and I no longer support him. It sounds like what I wrote offended you, or worried you. Neither should be the case. I am concerned too, but lets see how it shakes out. I'm out. Period. Make sure to send back all the extra money from your paycheck #notmypresident got for you How much more in your paycheck did you sell your freedom for? Just curious what it's worth to you.
Typical chicken little never trumper The fact that you'd call me a NT shows you haven't seen my prior posts about him. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:06:14 PM EDT
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Methinks the media is starting to catch on:
"According to the Times, top DOJ officials told Senate Judiciary staffers outright in a closed door meeting that bumpstock regulation would go nowhere because ultimately an act of Congress is needed. The acting director of ATF told a law enforcement conference the same thing in October." "Trump notably did not call on Congress to act on bumpstocks in his public announcement of the memo. He probably wants to avoid a congressional fight with the NRA which opposes any bumpstock bills in Congress. A more cynical interpretation might be that Trump and the NRA are electing to pursue a process they both know can't go anywhere. Either way, Trumps memo isn't going to change anything". Trumps’s Go-Nowhere Memo on Banning Bump Stocks |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, Trump shouldn't even be giving gun controllers lip service. He should be telling them to piss up a rope.  Trump Says He Signed Memo to Ban 'Bump Stocks' |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:07:50 PM EDT
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Are you asking me not to reply to anyone in this thread? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can keep dreaming about that, but in reality this is going to ban bump fire stocks, binary triggers, and probably some other stuff. I have fully supported Trump since wayyyyy before the convention. He promised for the last 2 years to protect our 2A freedoms, and now he instructed his AG to propose a new gun reg. Fuck Trump.
BTW, we get the message. We got it around the 10th time you posted it. We're slow, but not that slow. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:09:08 PM EDT
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Agreed. The NRA's plan was working, they redirected all the attention and were taking the heat for it. There was no reason at all for Trump to speak. He isn't up for re-election, he didn't need to redirect the heat from him, and even if he did he could have said "I've asked Congress to pass something and put it on my desk". There was no reason for Trump to say anything...unless his words at the end of this video are true and he wants to take real action. People who say Trump was just trolling the Democrats, I've never seen Trump look teachers, students, and law enforcement straight in the face and lie to them just to troll Democrats. As a 2 1/2 year Trump supporter I believe Trump is 100% serious when he says he is going to take action.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38nPHaeYbtYQuote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:09:33 PM EDT
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LOL,they have to try and figure out how to word it,since they already came out against bumpstocks after Vegas. @Miami_JBT Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has the NRA released an official statement since yesterday afternoon about their stance on Trump's memo or proposed increase in age limit? @Miami_JBT |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:09:52 PM EDT
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You guys defending Trump on this are fucking pathetic.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:10:56 PM EDT
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Agreed. The NRA's plan was working, they redirected all the attention and were taking the heat for it. There was no reason at all for Trump to speak. He isn't up for re-election, he didn't need to redirect the heat from him, and even if he did he could have said "I've asked Congress to pass something and put it on my desk". There was no reason for Trump to say anything...unless his words at the end of this video are true and he wants to take real action. People who say Trump was just trolling the Democrats, I've never seen Trump look teachers, students, and law enforcement straight in the face and lie to them just to troll Democrats. As a 2 1/2 year Trump supporter I believe Trump is 100% serious when he says he is going to take action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38nPHaeYbtY |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:11:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mr. Fudd coming from you? HAHAHAHAHA As the site staff nevertrumper who lives in a ban state I wouldn't expect anything else. Let's review facts. Bumpstocks are already under ATF review. Trump writing a letter to keep reviewing them doesn't change anything. It does signal to the media that he is 'doing something' about it while actually doing NOTHING. BUT MUH NEVERTRUMP FEELS |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:11:37 PM EDT
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Call the white house. Voice your opposition to the bump stock ban/gun control.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:11:46 PM EDT
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What happened is that he instructed his AG to propose a new gun regulation. I'm out. Period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have no idea what it looks like when I freak the fuck out. I am unhappy with his decision, and I no longer support him. It sounds like what I wrote offended you, or worried you. Neither should be the case. I am concerned too, but lets see how it shakes out. I'm out. Period. Y u kno reed gud? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:12:07 PM EDT
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